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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6962 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
I'm playing a troll paladin - quite a nice char, going very well, but I've got a problem - how can I get experience points with such a char? On lvl9 I've saved Khelly, on lvl11 I've finished all dwarven quests (including Griff & Nonnak). How can I get some experience? I can't even go to the pyramid! I visited SMC, UD, VD, PC and CoC down to Khelly. I'm afraid the graveyard in CoC will be a bit difficult right now. Any suggestions? Please help! |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3748 days, 16 hours, 41 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
Suggestions? DON'T go to the graveyard :) Trolls often get aged to death in one hit... Does your paladin have a source of invisibility and a bolt spell? If you're not averse to killing a few bugs, they're a good source of experience. Watch out for killer bugs... Of course, a trollish paladin mightn't be quite up to spellcasting yet... so if you have to, do levels 8 and 9 of the ID repeatedly. And once you get to level 13 you could go for the Pyramid... Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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SuperLobster Registered user The Mad Monk Last page view: 7702 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
The Tomb of the High Kings is always good for lots of experience, though you do get an occasional *TOUGH* beastie. But if you have a decent melee attack (A good missle weapon wouldn't hurt either...), you should be fine. The constant monster generation is a huge plus for experience starved characters. But, if you don't feel up to the Tomb, the cavernous room before Dwarftown is always good, just takes a lot longer, since the monsters generated are not usually worth much experience. You want to fight? Fight me! HAHAHA |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6962 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
Thanks for your help. My troll is lvl13 now. I scummed the big room in CoC, than cleared the Pyramid. Now I would need some more experience :). Meanwhile I've dug up a random grave in dwarven graveyard (not the great treasures one) and I've found an ordinary ring - a RoDS. I think that's called luck :). Any advice what should I spend the wish on? I hestitate between 7lb boots and scrolls of education. No SoCR are needed because I have those from Khelly. I think that rings of ice would be a waste of wish too. |
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SuperLobster Registered user The Mad Monk Last page view: 7702 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
The 7LB would be my choice, if you to pick one of those two. Or maybe some nice eternium plate mails, or Red Dragon Scale mails. Or if have a preferred weapon type, get some eternium varitey of that weapon (maybe you'll get lucky and have an ego weapon generated!) You want to fight? Fight me! HAHAHA |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6962 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
I chose 7lb's. Nice outcome - 2 pairs of uncursed +1 +0, blessed +1 +0 and blessed +4 +0. |
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SuperLobster Registered user The Mad Monk Last page view: 7702 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
That's the best outcome I've seen for a wish for 7LB's. The best I've received was 2 uncursed (+0,+0) and 1 uncursed (+4,+0). You want to fight? Fight me! HAHAHA |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6962 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
Now I'm lvl 16. Cleared the Darkforge (nothing interesting, just Staff of Archmagi, I don't need it anyway), graveyard in CoC and all levels down to wall of flames. Got crowned with Hammer of the gods (useless crap, I prefer Big Punch) and cleared the Water Temple. And I need more XP!!! |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6962 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
lvl 17 - got RotHK. And I need more than 300000xp to advance to level 18. That's ridiculous! |
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Archangel. Unregistered user |
If you can breathe water, go and kill the water dragon. IIRC my drakish priest (RIP...*sniff*) jumped from lvl26 to lvl29 or so... That should give you experience nicely. Just cast darkness and whack her. If you can survive her first attack that is... |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3110 days, 3 hours, 26 minutes and 43 seconds ago. |
First attack? How? Go 2 her, cast darkness, attack her and she doesn't even see who's killing her (tell Blup before you kill her). A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6962 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
I'm not killing that poor dragon! That's lame! If I was going to kill her, I'd give her a chance in duel. Anyway, I'm lvl 20 now, got water and fire orbs, have permanet invisibility & teleport control, and I fight with Purifier and emerald dagger (cleared a greater vault with giants). Maces on lvl 13, I have a fair chance of achieving Grandmastery. I have also Ring of the Master Cat (for the first time!) and there is Preserver in the Casino. Now I MUST win (I wonder what I have to do to don't lose :))) |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6962 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
Now I know what I have to do to lose - fight with Nuurag and don't look on the HP. ended with -160 :( Damn. Such a good char. |
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Archangel Registered user The Creator's servant Last page view: 7349 days, 12 hours, 54 minutes and 14 seconds ago. |
Guinea vs. Nuurag 2:1. He's catching you up:) I hereby announce that I am more than willing to kill anyone who dares to cross my way |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6962 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
Yes, he is :). It would be 3:0 if I was watching the HP. But I didn't - "Severly wounded! Yes! Get the bastard! Critically! Now you'll die! And what's that? Shit! Nooooooooo!!!" I have to post this char in HoF - If I could win that I'd probably kill balors in melee... Sniff :) |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7755 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
Ehhh Guinea good exp for trolls is in ToEF. Just naked in invis fighting with demons, giants and red dragons... Hmmm Minotaur Maze is a good place to just care on Minotaur mages, humanoid slaying ammo roolez. When you need lots of exp level 30-45 only deep in Infinity you can find lots of balors and greater moloch, sometimes in DH. In blue dragon cave troll can fast get one max to levels ... And hmmm Tempel of earth... "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" |
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Archangel Registered user The Creator's servant Last page view: 7349 days, 12 hours, 54 minutes and 14 seconds ago. |
Doesn't casting 'slow monster' on yourself increase the experience you get? I hereby announce that I am more than willing to kill anyone who dares to cross my way |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7755 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
Nope, it's increase your score on the end of game.... Only if you didn't boost your speed... No quickling and bug food:( Than your score is higher... "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6962 days, 1 hour, 35 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
BM, you're wrong. It increases amount of exp you get. I heard it's very useful to slow yourself (boots of the slow shuffle help) when fighting someone tough (orb guardians balors and such) because you get enourmous amounts of exp... but very dangerous though. |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7755 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
Hmmmmm I heard only if you didn't increase your speed than your finaly score is higher... Finaly score is reduced by PC speed.... But hmmmm in this way if you are weak you get more exp... Because fight is tought... Hmmmmmm ADOM is hard game where Death follow you;) "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3110 days, 3 hours, 26 minutes and 43 seconds ago. |
Death doesn't follow you. She's always one step ahead of you ;P If you're afraid of dieing while slowed, then get though monsters to critical, and then kill them when slowed A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7755 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
To many things to doing in this same time.... I prefer simple hand to hand combat and casting web or slow monster at my enemy;) And if you play like necro Death is allways follow you and cursed on your playing with corpses;) "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" |
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Serg Unregistered user |
That's surely TRUE, that experience you gain directly depends upon your speed. The higher your speed is - less experience you receive. And the penalties are quite severe, e.g. if you have speed about 200, your experience is divided by about 10 times! The best tactics I found to solve this problem is the following one, but it works only if your speed is not above 300: Find a really tough monster (greater moloch, balor, orb guardian, etc.), do *NOT* slow him. Hit him until he is critically wounded and you are sure, that you have to hit him 1-4 times more to kill. Then run away but not far(better teleport). Next, slow YOURSELF and wear the boots of slow shuffle if present(more general: lower your speed to value about 70-100). If you manage to kill the monster in that state, you can receive a HUGE amount of exps. Examples: I killed greater molochs with such tactics and received about 2 000 000 per one kill. The ancient blue wyrm gave me more than 3 000 000. Enjoy! |