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loser Unregistered user |
i recently got the wish spell with about 300 knowledge points from the class power of bard(lvl 18 i think). However, i cannot cast it at all because it costs 3000 pp... that is impossible... my pp now is 600+, hp 500+, but i think i will still instadeath if i try to cast it, does anyone have anyone experience in this scenario? |
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Fred Unregistered user |
I'll comment on something. Casting wish, well, gives you a wish (obviously). HOWEVER, if reduces a random stat of yours by 10 points. THAT in itself is a HUGE loss. You may want to think twice before casting it. Also, if you do decide to cast it, then cast it on silver/dark night, depending on your alignment. From what I remember, it halves the spell cost of your spells. Still planning on casting it? |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5654 days, 22 hours, 19 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
I think you would die from casting it since you can only afford a cost of 1600pp with your current stats. You could scum the BDC for potions of ultra healing (to raise your hp) and wands (with the mana battery corruption to raise pp) but that'd be quite pointless since after scumming for a while you'd probably get some wands of wishing too. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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loser Unregistered user |
sorry... wats the BDC? |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5654 days, 22 hours, 19 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
The blue dragon caves deep in the caverns of chaos. You might not be that far yet... If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Fred Unregistered user |
I agree with J. If you want a wish granted, then your better off to the BDC, or just anywhere with lots of monsters to fight with. With any decent luck, you'll get items that will grant your wishes. Personally, I really hate the -10 stats drain.
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Anarchy Registered user yAwN Last page view: 4888 days, 2 hours, 5 minutes and 14 seconds ago. |
I didn't know casting spells could be so harmful to your char...especially that stats drain thingy. Boredom ceases bladder.
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Fred Unregistered user |
To Anarchy: Actually, spells are not that bad. From what I know, none can give you negative effects aside from the WISH spell. Of course, your hp will be taken if you dont have enough pp to cast a particular spell, but that's general knowledge. |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5756 days, 9 hours and 51 seconds ago. |
And in the latest version, overcasting spells from HP abuses your Mana. It used to be that it would train it - so in a difficult situation, you could frantically cast Heal at yourself off of your HP. |
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Wheyon Registered user Last page view: 7558 days, 11 hours, 14 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
no wonder my mana has been waning! My favourite piece of graffitti I ever was on a bathroom stall: "People who write here are FAAGS!" |
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Ryan Klein Registered user Because I said so is why! Last page view: 1645 days, 17 hours, 14 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
That new little addon makes me VERY iffy with a spellcaster. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5654 days, 22 hours, 19 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
I don't play spellcasters so I wouldn't know, but is the decrease in mana immediate when you cast spells from your hp or does it sort of give it negative training so that it goes down when the game checks your stat increases next time?(OMG that's an ugly long sentence!) Just began wondering, because if you would cast wish you probably wouldn't have the 3000pp and you'd probably need many hundred hp to fuel your casting so in addition to the automatic -10 stat drain you'd get a pretty hefty mana reduction I guess... (I'm quite good with these one-sentece paragraphs now aren't I. God damnit I should learn to write this second native language better) If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Wheyon Registered user Last page view: 7558 days, 11 hours, 14 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Its not immediate. but it does begin to decrease very quickly. I dont imagine you would lose more than one or two mana points from it. My favourite piece of graffitti I ever was on a bathroom stall: "People who write here are FAAGS!" |
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Fred Unregistered user |
Does the mana really decrease from the draining of the HP thing? I got to the MT, and my mana was sucked dry, but I kept on using Magic Missiles as an offensive bolt spell to avoid item destruction. So my HP was slowly drained (but I had preserver and BoW on, so double regeneration!) And after all that fighting, and as the game went on, I didn't experience a stat decrease in mana. Why is that? |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5654 days, 22 hours, 19 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
I don't know how the system works but you were a high level char and magic missile is quite a low-end spell so maybe the game wasn't so harsh towards you. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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buttnugget Registered user Last page view: 7620 days, 17 hours, 41 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
what do you mean about PoUH raising your hitpoints? will it raise it above your normal max permenantly or temporarily or what? |
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Fred Unregistered user |
I think it's not only PoUH, but PoEH and PoH too. If you drink them while your HP is at max, then your HP will rise by a few points. And it's permanent |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5654 days, 22 hours, 19 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
Oh yeah extra healing works also but I think basic potions of healing don't. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5604 days, 10 hours, 22 minutes and 7 seconds ago. |
J. :Actually basic potions of healing DO work, I can tell from experience. At least they did in 1.0.0. They rarely raise your max HP, though, and it may be that only blessed ones work. Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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ArcticWolf Registered user Karmic Popsicle Last page view: 7410 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes and 30 seconds ago. |
Only blessed ones work, and only blessed ones should be used for that anyways. Imagine a carmic popsicle - First it is red and tastes like strawberry. Then it turns blue and tastes like blueberry. And if someone takes it from ye, he or she gets cursed and doomed. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5654 days, 22 hours, 19 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
Ooh, that's great! Thanks! Now I probably should go and change my nick :P If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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 Ass Whisper Registered user the Orcish Bard Last page view: 7427 days, 4 hours, 43 minutes and 21 seconds ago. |
Has anyone tried casting Wish w/ AoLS equipped? Shouldn't it save yer life? I personally was annoyed when got the Wish spell when playing a bard. As bad as 3000 points of Darkness... Icesus |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5654 days, 22 hours, 19 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
An aols probably would keep you alive but they don't grow on trees and still there's a -10 stat drain included. I myself would prefer zapping a wand or rubbing a ring to get a wish. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Warlord Registered user Wanderer of the Wastes Last page view: 7523 days, 12 hours, 10 minutes and 33 seconds ago. |
If you have AoLS equipped while casting Wish, and don't have enough spell points and you still cast it, if your hp goes to negative, AoLS will save you and get destroyed, but the spell will be cancelled too. So it would only waste an AoLS for nothing. - May the blood of thine enemies stain the ground - |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3746 days, 12 hours, 9 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
Re: Mana drain... I like spellcasters, and I'm also very good at making stupid mistakes that get me into tight situations. Consequently, in the early game I have to cast from HP quite often. I've never lost more than two Mana points, even after repeatedly and desperately casting from HP, praying for healing, and casting again. It's not something you want to do repeatedly, but it's not such a last-resort option that you shouldn't consider it at all, especially in those early-game tight spots. You'll gain the mana points back, and in the early game, with levels coming so fast, you'll probably be back to normal within one or two levels. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
