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Sami Unregistered user |
I found a ki-rin or something like that in the dwarven halls... it seems to be lawful, like me, and it's not hostile... should I kill it? Is it too tough?
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3088 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
Ki-rin? You plan to attack it? Nice way to kill yourself. If you can kill emperor liches with absolutly no effort, greater molochs are a thing you walk over, and balors make you laugh - go ahead, kill it. It's just the strongest, non-unique monster in the game, so why be afraid of it? ;P A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Sami Unregistered user |
Okay, I got the picture =) |
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Wheyon Registered user Last page view: 7539 days, 8 hours, 29 minutes and 44 seconds ago. |
maelstrom, what are you talking about?! I came across a ki-rin in infinity... I killed it so easily with two hits. This character had trouble beating molochs too. Balors are the hardest IMHO. My favourite piece of graffitti I ever was on a bathroom stall: "People who write here are FAAGS!" |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3088 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
Infinity is a lot easier than DH. Ki-rin confuse, stun, are immune to fire, lighting, acid and ice, cast Death Ray and Heal AND regenerate themselves. The Ki-tin you found must have been very inexperianced, because those I meet can take down lvl 50 chars with not much effort. And balors make me laugh all the time I'm over lvl 14. So do molochs. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Sami Unregistered user |
Over lvl 14??? holy ****! =) |
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Jonesy Unregistered user |
Killing balors are easy. I usually take my first one about level 13. (With phase daggers). Greater molochs give me trouble tho... I haven't even heard of, or met, a Ki-rin |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3088 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
It's one of the rarest monsters - lawfull, and as I said - cast Death Ray, heals, renerates and immune to everything ;) The main problem with it, is that it confuses like Emperor Liches. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Sami Unregistered user |
Is there any way of avoiding confusing attacs and/or spells |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3088 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
Confusion resistance (rings of mental satability) help, but there is no sure way - you'll get confused anyway from time to time. It's good to have willpower on high levels (like over 40) and 3 or more confusion resistance granting items. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5635 days, 19 hours, 34 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
The first time I ever made it to some lower levels in the CoC in 099g15 I ran into a ki-rin and had no idea how dangerous it was. Just kept beating it for a while with my barbarian and noticed that it took pretty many hits. Then after a few rounds it confused me and hit me with a couple of death rays. Was resistant but still those things hurt and did kill me. Have only met one ki-rin after that, but I rarely get far enough in the game to have any chance of finding them(except DH). If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Jonesy Unregistered user |
I've beat the game lots of time, and haven't run into one.... Oh yeah, Greater Balors are harder (and not unique, if you pray in the Chaos world... thing) [Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/24/2003 at 12:22 (GMT -5) by its author] |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5635 days, 19 hours, 34 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
How can you say that greater balors are harder if you've never met a ki-rin? :) If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Jonesy Unregistered user |
Caught me there. :) Greater balors gave me alot of trouble, but they are easy when you drink 5 potions of boost speed. :) |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5635 days, 19 hours, 34 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Balors in general can be tough, especially if they happen to summon tough monsters. As usual, slaying ammo is very useful. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Ass Whisper Registered user the Orcish Bard Last page view: 7408 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
If somebody really wants to find out how tough that ki-rin is, wish for one in the SMC! I tried it after winning the game w/ a saved character. My guess is that the summoned ki-rin (which was immediately hostile) was level 100+ and had 3000HP, hit 14 times and kicked my Fistantanius-slayer character like a shitbucket. He died in one round. That tough is a ki-rin. Compared to a balor or g-moloch or whatever, that is wished at SMC it was...unique... Icesus |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5635 days, 19 hours, 34 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
That's more than a lvl ~118 GM that I once wished for and checked with a stethoscope. IIRC that one hit 12 times. That high level monsters are pretty tough because all of their hits are critical hits. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/27/2003 at 15:07 (GMT -5) by J.] |
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Jedik Unregistered user |
Once I've found tension room with ki-rins (v. 1.1.0) |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3727 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
Hm, wonder how many microseconds that character lasted? :) I've encountered a ki-rin only once, with a save-scummed level 43 wizard. I had resistance to pretty much everything available, and double confusion resistance, as well as a willpower around sixty, so it wasn't any harder to defeat than the average greater moloch. I used phase daggers, I think. Or maybe the Twins? I forget. At any rate, it wasn't too deadly. Die Gedanken sind Frei [Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/30/2003 at 02:47 (GMT -5) by Iridia] |
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Jedik Unregistered user |
That character survived, kills a couple of ki-rins, became fallen champion cause forgot that killings lawful creatures is evil and even won a game... :-) |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3727 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
You must be pretty good, then... I've been playing ADoM for two years, and my best character only retrieved two orbs and lasted to the mid-twentieth level... I'm getting better though; this week four of my characters reached level 17, and one reached 20. I've got a while yet before I have to worry about ki-rin! Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Jan Erik Administrator Last page view: 2 days, 19 hours, 30 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Hmm, wonder how much a Ki-Rin figurine of wonderous power would cost :P Jan Erik Mydland HoF admin |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3088 days, 20 hours, 9 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
One teleport and and angry shopkeeper ;) A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5635 days, 19 hours, 34 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Can you wish for specific figurines of wonderous power? :P Must go test it myself... EDIT: No, apparently you can't wish for specific figurines. When wished for it does nothing. You can only wish for them as 'figurines of wondrous power'. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 7/6/2003 at 08:14 (GMT -5) by J.] |
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MangaFox Registered user Last page view: 7569 days, 23 hours, 13 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
So Ki-rins are strong, but how fast are they? I am just curious in case I ever run into one and it decides to eat me. Bug-lover since 1.0.0 |
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Jedik Unregistered user |
91-107 (average 97) :-) http://descolada.fm.interia.pl/adom/Ki-rin.gif I made this screenshot a few months ago |
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Ass Whisper Registered user the Orcish Bard Last page view: 7408 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Was that a ki-rin room? They seem pretty low level, compared what I once encountered. But if you add all their spells and abilities to that, they make formidable foes indeed. BTW: Just got my NWN CDs back, gotta start some serious modding now! Tons of ideas from ADOM and other great games! Icesus |
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Jedik Unregistered user |
Re Ass Whisper that tension room was at CoC D:45 or D:46 (just before unreal cave system) maybe they seem low level (luckily CoC D:45 is not a SMC :D) but their regeneration rate, spells and attacks per round makes them very difficult opponents "my" ki-rins have three or four attacks per round so one of them can confused me, cast heal, attack in melee and cast death ray (in one round - and still getting natural regeneration) |