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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5759 days, 6 hours, 38 minutes and 22 seconds ago. |
I have a level 50 Human Farmer who is just about to go after the Trident and try to become an Avatar of Balance, but my problem is that most of my SoCR were destroyed in the blue dragon caves. All I have left for corruption removal is one blessed SoCR and two cooked orb guardian corpses which I plan to trade in for PoCC. I have 12 corruptions so far, I haven't gone past 90 days, and I have the 30% less corruption class power. I think I can make it through the Filk quest and the Scintillating Cave without needing any corruption removal, but when I meet Andor Drakon, he'll probably corrupt me to death. I'm thinking about dipping items into blessed potions of exchange in hopes of getting some corruption removal items. What should I dip (scrolls for SoCR, potions for PoCC, or rings for RoDS)? Where should I do this to have the best chance of getting what I need? Any tips on killing Andor as quickly as possible so he doesn't have time to corrupt me? I have some slaying ammo - would blessing it help? |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3749 days, 9 hours, 47 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
You don't want to get hit by Andy's melee attack... high speed, 7LB, etc. will be helpful. You probably knew that, though. You may want to try draining pools, if there are any left. There are: 29 types of rings 43 types of scrolls 60 types of potions The less of a type there are, the more chance, presumably, you have of getting the desired item. That probably rules out potions, since there are sixty types, and the PoCC is less powerful than a SoCR. The more you can dip into a potion of exchange, the more items you'll get, but the items that give wishes (rings and possibly wands) would give you more than one item apiece. So I'd say pick rings over scrolls. There are only 28 types of wands... you could consider trying for a wand of wishing, but wands don't stack. I don't know if wands end up with different numbers of charges after being dipped... Die Gedanken sind Frei [Edited 1 time, last edit on 7/24/2003 at 06:50 (GMT -5) by Iridia] |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5759 days, 6 hours, 38 minutes and 22 seconds ago. |
I am a living mana battery, so wands won't help. This could also make it difficult to paralyse Andy when I meet him (does that work every time? I've never tried it). Unfortunately, not all types of item are equally common. E.g. I'd assume that you are far more likely to get brass rings than RoDS. This means that you can't be sure that polypiling rings would be better - maybe RoDS are much rarer than SoCR. On the other hand, if I did get RoDS it would not only fix my corruption problem but also allow me to wish for speed when fighting Andy. |
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Jonesy Registered user Liberate Te Ex Inferis Last page view: 6499 days, 13 hours, 45 minutes and 56 seconds ago. |
Even when you are a living mana battery, you still get the last wand wish. (Helpful for when you need scrolls of chaos resistance, real quick!) "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."- Voltaire "Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven."- John Milton, Paradise Lost "Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth, follow only beauty, and obey only love."- Kahlil Gibran "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."- Voltaire. "What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."-Salman Rushdie |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5759 days, 6 hours, 38 minutes and 22 seconds ago. |
Thanks for your help, but I died anyway. I tried polypiling rings but got nothing useful. It didn't help that I had stiff muscles, and that my last SoCR was destroyed by my own rebounding lightning bolt. From now on I'm going to put two or three SoCR aside in the old barbarian's glade as my stash for the Chaos plane. |
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C<U> Unregistered user |
That's how all my char.s have good stats. I put all )yes all( untill the final battle against drakon. I hide all valuable items in random places old barbarian's place, dwarven mystic's area, random areas of the dungeon (monsters can pick stuff up). Then right before fighting drakon I pick everything up (orbs, scrolls). [Edited 1 time, last edit on 7/26/2003 at 17:56 (GMT -5) by its author] |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5657 days, 19 hours, 57 minutes and 22 seconds ago. |
It is a good habit to store items in a safe place. Good places are the ogre cave below dwarftown(no monsters there) and the barbarians glade(just kill him and he won't pick your items up). BTW, you didn't mention it but had you already done the unicorn quest?:) Also, I'd guess the items you receive from dipping depends on the danger level of the dungeon, so DH could be a good place to dip. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 7/27/2003 at 09:52 (GMT -5) by J.] |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5759 days, 6 hours, 38 minutes and 22 seconds ago. |
Yep, I had already done the black unicorn's quest to turn chaotic. I do that when going for Avatar of Balance because since you need to be extremely corrupted when going through the gate, the white unicorn's cleansing isn't terribly useful. Is DH really a better place to dip than D:48? Often people dip in DH:2 because they're trying for AoLS and it's the most dangerous place they can get to at that stage. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5657 days, 19 hours, 57 minutes and 22 seconds ago. |
I don't know. Anything(right?) can be generated in the DH so either it has a high danger level or it's somehow different from other levels. D:48(why not 50?) corrupts more so it might have an even higher danger level. I dunno. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Ass Whisper Registered user the Orcish Bard Last page view: 7430 days, 2 hours, 20 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
But isn't SMC thee most dangerous place? excluding Andys domain.. Icesus |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3749 days, 9 hours, 47 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
I don't know; the SmC is pretty unique, since it has a very high danger level BUT the monsters generated there are always things like goblins, rats, and orcs--only at very high levels. I do know people have found very good equipment in the SmC more than they have on other levels, which seems to argue for a higher danger level rather than just a different monster generation. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Ass Whisper Registered user the Orcish Bard Last page view: 7430 days, 2 hours, 20 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
No they are not... at high levels when you go to SMC and kill everything that moves the monsters that start to spawn there are nuthing but rats and goblins... One of my VERY potential winners at lvl 46 IIRC found out just how fast those quickling queens are... in the SMC. 'twas a surprise for me too! Icesus |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5657 days, 19 hours, 57 minutes and 22 seconds ago. |
That's true, the monster types get more and more dangeroud at the same rate as they get more experienced. That's why it's very dangerous. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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C<U> Unregistered user |
To get corrupted for a UCGE or NAE I sit around lvl. 50 and 49 and let the balors hit me (yes I have been near death many times.) on lvl 49 on the > I leave SoCr and PoCc and a wand of wishing or RoDs, extra spellbooks and all that other stuff (back-up armor). |
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Jonesy Registered user Liberate Te Ex Inferis Last page view: 6499 days, 13 hours, 45 minutes and 56 seconds ago. |
That's what I would do. You don't want to leave them too far away from you, you should make caches at least every 10 levels, that way you stand _somewhat_ of a chance. "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."- Voltaire "Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven."- John Milton, Paradise Lost "Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth, follow only beauty, and obey only love."- Kahlil Gibran "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."- Voltaire. "What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."-Salman Rushdie |