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Anarchy2
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 at 21:22 (GMT -5)

I was just wondering...

Is it possible to have more than ONE altar in a level?If so,what would happen if I press 'O' while infront of TWO altars; both have different alignments,and both have a monster on them.




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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 at 22:58 (GMT -5)

No this is not possible and stop asking noob questions.
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 01:51 (GMT -5)

I was just asking a logical question.

Finding an altar is a pain in the neck,and because ADOM hates me,I usually NEVER seem to find them.Are there any other places where altars are guarenteed(besides dwarftown)?Or at least easier to be found?

PS. We ask newbie questions in these forums because that is all there is to ask.Without them,how will the forums strive?


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[Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/22/2003 at 01:53 (GMT -5) by Anarchy2]
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 07:00 (GMT -5)

lol, Chris talking about noobish questions when he posts cheats for an old version of ADOM.

I dont know Anarchy, good question the thing about two altars. Maybe a 'cheater' can create a level and try it out?


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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 07:43 (GMT -5)

No, you can have just one altar on each level. ADOM would propably crash if you'd create two somehow.

Guaranteed altars are in Dwarftown, and in each of the elemental temples (always chaotic altars, and you need to be a champion to convert them).


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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 09:47 (GMT -5)

Oh yeah, noob questions all right. Like YOU don't do that? "Can you curse items?", oh come on...

With all this sh!t you post here, next thing you know you'll come posting: "sry wasn't me my little brother logged in as me and posted all this stuff".
If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away.

Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad."


[Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/22/2003 at 09:56 (GMT -5) by J.]
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 09:56 (GMT -5)

I salute you,J.

Anyway,are chaotic monsters the only one capable of sacrificing the PC?Could neutral/lawful monsters do so too?

This question is to mock all who oppose me.



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the biz
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 10:02 (GMT -5)

i have been sacrificed at a neutral altar before by a neutral being. I was completely shocked, as being sacced at chaotic altars so many times led me to believe that they were the only dangerous ones. But yes, you can be sacced at a neutral altar if you are chaotic or lawful
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 10:10 (GMT -5)

Really?I've never been sacced by a lawful or neutral monster before...

Maybe that's because most of my characters are lawful or neutral.And not many neutral monsters are capable of sacrificng(worms,rats,bats,etc).



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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 10:27 (GMT -5)

I'll test it out with a old version of the map editor. It's only for.... G16p2 or 1.0.0, I think. I'll test it anyways.


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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 10:42 (GMT -5)

Yes, you can definitely be sacced by a lawful or neutral monster. I was once sacrificed by a dwarf (lawful) when I made Dwarftown mad.

You are more likely to find an altar (or anything else, for that matter--herbs, forges, pools, etc) in the UD, under the SmC.


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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 11:56 (GMT -5)

Do only sacrifice you on a co-aligned altar or do they care? Eg an orc won't sacrifice you if you're standing on a neutral/lawful altar?
If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away.

Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad."
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 14:38 (GMT -5)

IIRC I once had two altars on a level. Could misremember it, though. Anyway I don't think it is possible to have two altars close by...
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 00:54 (GMT -5)

I don't think chaotic monsters could sac you if you're standing on a neutral/lawful altar.They only have one deity,anyway.

Could monsters sacrifice OTHER monsters besides the PC?


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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 at 15:33 (GMT -5)

No, I don't think monsters can sac each other.

They'll only sac you if you are:

A. Not of their alignment
B. Standing on an altar of their alignment

and if:
A. They can see you
B. They are able to speak (i.e., a rat can't sac you because it's an animal). The biggest group you have to worry about is humanoids, though demons and undead can sac you too.


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Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 at 00:40 (GMT -5)

Hold on. I know I am late to this discussion, but.

1) In my limitless and omniscient experience, the kind of person who actually uses noob as an "insult" and not as a joke is probably the kind of individual who isn't strong enough to be a bully, so resorts to being snide instead.

2) Iridia was sacrificed by a DWARF?? I'm trying to contain my imagination, even as we speak.

Can a chaotic monster sacrifice a more powerful chaotic player on a chaotic altar? Wouldn't they get the infamous 'Sacrifice yourself' message?

Probably, if you cheated to get two altars, and sacrificed a monster on each, all that would happen was it would count as two seperate sacrifices, one after the other, where the first influences the next, and the order is chosen purely on x and y location -_-

But its amusing to think that maybe the dungeon would be torn apart by two dueling deities suddenly fighting over who gets an altar on that level. And probably killing the pc in the process.



You pick up the Blessed Amulet of Life Saving. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, slowly turns toward you.

"That will cost you..
..your soul"

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/25/2003 at 00:47 (GMT -5) by LarrackG]
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Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 at 01:09 (GMT -5)

Could you sacrifice Andy? :)


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Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 at 16:44 (GMT -5)

Think about what just PRAYING in Andys palace does.

What was your question again?


You pick up the Blessed Amulet of Life Saving. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, slowly turns toward you.

"That will cost you..
..your soul"
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Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 at 02:35 (GMT -5)

Is andy andhor drakon? I don't think there is an altar in his level but I never got that far.
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Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 at 04:34 (GMT -5)

can you lure him out? i never got that far either.
andy is my friend's little brother :P


Taz: A potion of gain attributes (4s) is lying here. Suddenly a stone block hits your head! Something on the ground is smashed to pieces!
PeanutGod: Awwww no! How harsh is that! This is where you need the artefact 'mop and bucket'.
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Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 at 05:50 (GMT -5)

Maybe when you sac Andy he will fight your deity or something.Isn't HE a god?


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Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 at 10:34 (GMT -5)

Andor is on the chaos plane with no altars, and no, when you go there there's no return so you can't lure him out but you could cheat yourself an ElDeR cHaOs GoD figurine of wondrous power, and thus summon one as a pet and then try sacrificing it.
If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away.

Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad."
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 at 08:34 (GMT -5)

lol "this is your pet, Andor Drakon the ElDeR cHaOs GoD" ahihi =)


And my point was...
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Posted on Monday, December 29, 2003 at 18:39 (GMT -5)

How could you cheat a chaos god figurine?


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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 at 20:48 (GMT -5)

You know what would be funny? Turning Andy to stone with the Petrification spell than carrying him around as a souvineir.
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Nope, I tried to turn him to stone. Doesn't seem to work. He resists. "Slow" spell works just fine.
And you can confuse him using "Ventriloquism" ( yeah, no kidding ). It's sometimes useful ( especially if you took several blessed scrolls of chaos resistance with you ( once I managed to save 8 )). Is this really possible to cheat the figurine of ECG? Wow. How do you do that?


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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 09:53 (GMT -5)

Hex editing, memory editing, using the new feature for item cheating in ADOMBot. All 3 work for the newest version.


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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 10:06 (GMT -5)

Chris, he ment a "figurine of wonderous power", not a "statue". Statues cannot be turned into companions, figurines, when blessed and used, can.


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Posted on Friday, January 02, 2004 at 23:33 (GMT -5)

Why is my being sacrificed by a dwarf so odd?...


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Chris
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 at 01:01 (GMT -5)

I meant turning him into stone and carrying him around as a souveneir(like what Majin Buu out of Dragon Ball Z does except he turns them into candy and eats them)not a figurine of wonderous power becuase if you can beat him what good is he to you anyway?
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