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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3896 days, 1 hour, 36 minutes and 5 seconds ago. |
I started a Drakeling beastfighter and it's the first time I'm playing with a drakeling and I wondered does using the acid spit have any bad side effects like losing stats? adn also i'm not sure but does using necromancy draw you towards chaotic? "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Klavert Registered user The Hurthling Last page view: 6516 days, 23 hours, 28 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
necroancy draws you to chaotic indeed. And iirc the acid spit just makes you hungry faster and doesn't have more negative side-effects. Klavert -I want ye to slay a rat to prove your valor- Thrundarr That really happened to me :D |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3753 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Exactly. Just getting hungry. Get enough stomafillia and you ought to be able to use the acid spit as often as you like. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3896 days, 1 hour, 36 minutes and 5 seconds ago. |
Okay thanks, I haven't dared to use it in fear of losing stats "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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wakka Registered user Tha kitten slayer Last page view: 6718 days, 8 hours, 4 minutes and 54 seconds ago. |
it's good to raise your stats. when you're starving, your strength and some other stats decrease, thus increasing you chances of gaining stats (ogre corpses are the easiest for strength). Drakelings rule (a bit). and since they have food preservation, it's easy not to starve completely. And my point was... |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5611 days, 10 hours, 16 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
Necromancy seems to be quite chaotic act to use. When I tried it just out of curiosity with my late wannabe-archmage gnomish wizard I used it on one corpse (resulting in pitiful skeleton IIRC) and alignment dropped straight from N= to N- (IIRC). And with a LV50 char alignment changes shouldn't be too quick. Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5661 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
That doesn't prove anything, you could have been 1 black stone short of N- :) No, really, necromancy is quite chaotic. Wear a blessed amulet of balance if you have one, it'll lower alignment changes you get by quite a bit. Also handy when eating undead for toughness boosts. BTW, isn't necromancy quite useless for non-necromancers? ISTR that only necromancers can command the slaves, or am I wrong? If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Larrack Unregistered user |
Necromancy is -near- useless for non-necromancers, but it seems to be very rare to get a bard generated with it. I once had a crowned lawful necromancer. It can be done. The chaotic raising thing, coupled with shadow touch (if used) can be very hard to counter. |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5611 days, 10 hours, 16 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
Just curious: healers can use both first aid and healing skills on companions starting from certain level (can't remember what). If a healer had achieved necromancy and created an undead slave would using healing/first aid on slave damage it like healing spells do ? Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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Klavert Registered user The Hurthling Last page view: 6516 days, 23 hours, 28 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
That sounds cool. A chaotic healer, able to summon armies he is able to heal as well. Would be tough to achieve though :D But i don't know if it would damage them either, let's hope it doesn't :P Klavert -I want ye to slay a rat to prove your valor- Thrundarr That really happened to me :D |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3896 days, 1 hour, 36 minutes and 5 seconds ago. |
I've once gotten necromancy tough a SoE, not very usefull though "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5763 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
Healers (of level 18 or higher) can use First Aid or Healing on peaceful or hostile monsters too, but not on undead - I tried it once and it said something about the skeleton not being a suitable target. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/29/2004 at 04:17 (GMT -5) by Ekaterin] |
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Ananer-Crom Registered user Last page view: 7363 days, 11 minutes and 30 seconds ago. |
Necromancy is Bad, Bad, Bad, but its sooo much fun..seeing undead causing havoc on the screen slaying all those innocent little goblinz...wait until you are high enough level, the undead gets more powerful as you progress, also this is a great way to improve your mana....its all good being evil...if you catch my drift. I can't find my shoes! |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3753 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Heh, yeah, until the chaos catches up with you... I should know; I went through a long stage of playing nothing but chaotic dark elf necromancer types... Chief cause of death, beyond what normally kills my characters, was usually the bad effects from corruption. I never got far enough for the corruption to actually kill me; but, come on--Randomly teleported into a vaultful of Dorn beasts? Accidentally draining the wand of teleportation that might've gotten me back out again? Shopkeepers raising their prices insanely because I'm so darn ugly? Uh-uh... nope. Neutrality is best. :) Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5763 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
Was this a roleplaying challenge, Iridia? I played dark elven necromancers for a while, but I always turned them neutral as soon as I could, because I didn't like the way that so many NPCs disapprove of chaotics. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3753 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Yes, it was :) The basic idea was to get to C- by killing beggars or Terinyo-ites, then stay at C- and finish the game. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Kryllion Registered user Last page view: 7040 days, 21 hours, 7 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Finish the game... I'm so jealous! I didn't even finish high school :( ~Kryllion~ Master of the Screeching Humanling |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3753 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Don't be jealous--I never completed the challenge :) Are you still in high school, or did you drop out? And why?! Sorry... I'm one of those tiresome people who likes school :P Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5611 days, 10 hours, 16 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
Hmmmm... Is it possible to use necromancy on the humanoid orb guardian corpses, that is the master summoner and Nuraag-Vaarn ? IIRC they both leave corpses and it would be amusing to have master summoner lich and chaos archmage lich as slaves... Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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Kryllion Registered user Last page view: 7040 days, 21 hours, 7 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Dropped out upon request of high school. I'm 30 ;-) ~Kryllion~ Master of the Screeching Humanling |
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Larrack Unregistered user |
School poker games were fun. University is better. |
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Dude Unregistered user |
I hope in later versions there is a difference between chaos and evil. I wan't to be a necromancer, but I don't want to go for the chaos ending. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3753 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
It's possible to be a neutral or even lawful necromancer, if you balance your alignment carefully. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Larrack Unregistered user |
Old post, but I feel compelled to add that a hurthling necromancer is rather close to neutrality to begin with. Get the amulet of order from Tywatt Pare, then move in with Jharrod, getting him to heal all those burns around your neck, and you'll be lawful soon enough. Just remember that Necromancy and Shadow touch are reasonably strong chaotic acts. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3753 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
I don't get why a spellcaster would want to fight unarmed, anyhow... Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Larrack Unregistered user |
Iridia, I had lots of fun with a necromancer with shadow touch and high unarmed combat. Don't disrespect what two rings of slaying and a very dedicated training regime can do for a wimpy little wizard. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3753 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
All right; since I've never tried it, I won't knock it. It's just that my wizards tend to depend on good weapons to stay alive in the early game, when they may not even have any offense spells... going weaponless seems like suicide! Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3597 days, 5 hours, 42 minutes and 32 seconds ago. |
my wizards use almost only spear+shield or shield+shield. For the Horde! |