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nabopolassur Unregistered user |
which one of you freaks is andy williams? i was just looking at his site. he has about 20 pages of stats adn information on amulets of order, can you believe that? he did stats for every birth month, b/c/u status.... everything you would never imagine. i can't imagine how much time he spent on this. the guy would be a millionaire if he would do that kind of research for someone who would pay him for it. andy, whoever you are...please, take a vacation. |
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Warlord* Unregistered user |
I've understood that he has only compiled research done by many people into one guidebook. Might be wrong though, but it would seem reasonable. |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3892 days, 3 hours, 44 minutes and 27 seconds ago. |
Lets thank Andy for making the guidebook, because it has been a great help at least for me. "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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all praise lord andy |
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Jonesy Registered user Liberate Te Ex Inferis Last page view: 6499 days, 18 hours, 11 minutes and 21 seconds ago. |
It's not just Andy doing the work, you dumbass. It's him and most everybody on the rec.games.rougelike.adom group over the past... what?, 7 years? He has just compiled it all together, that's all. "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."- Voltaire "Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven."- John Milton, Paradise Lost "Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth, follow only beauty, and obey only love."- Kahlil Gibran "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."- Voltaire. "What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."-Salman Rushdie [Edited 1 time, last edit on 2/13/2004 at 22:27 (GMT -5) by Jonesy] |
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Jurne Registered user Last page view: 6658 days, 17 hours, 33 minutes and 25 seconds ago. |
Jonesy, calm down buddy, no need to get so angry! Take a few deep breaths... You wish to kill me? Good thing I brought my psychic hamster named Hamster with me... |
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Larrack Unregistered user |
Don't judge him.. I know people who spend more time than that watching Tv, and this at least involves thinking. Besides which, Jonesy is right. Andys pages aren't about "Hey, look what a geek I am!", they're a collection of things many, many people have discovered about Adom. Most of the REALLY geeky things in there were contributed. |
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Kryllion Registered user Last page view: 7036 days, 23 hours, 15 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
Let's not discount the possibility that Andy is, in fact, very geeky. I don't know the guy, but I imagine it can't be ruled out. Anyway, I use the guidebook constantly, and appreciate his collecting and organizing the information and making it available. It's helped me a ton, although I still suck at ADOM. ~Kryllion~ Master of the Screeching Humanling |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5658 days, 22 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
Anyone who plays roguelikes is a total geek. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Kryllion Registered user Last page view: 7036 days, 23 hours, 15 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
I've undertaken a laborious endeavour to seek out my inner geek and give him a warm hug of acceptance. ~Kryllion~ Master of the Screeching Humanling |
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 @ Registered user Q('_'Q)(>'_')> Last page view: 6664 days, 56 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
I think everyone who plays roguelikes is a genius:P Maybe not <xxxxo~~~~oxxxx> SWORDCHUK |
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 Armada Registered user Last page view: 1219 days, 17 hours, 35 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
At the very least it makes you a better typist |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3749 days, 14 hours, 12 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
Yep. A "Q" in the wrong place can really ruin your day playing ADOM. :) Genius? No, but I'd say more intelligent or science/math oriented people are more likely to seek out roguelikes than other types of people. For example, I'm a physics major... Die Gedanken sind Frei [Edited 1 time, last edit on 2/18/2004 at 12:22 (GMT -5) by Iridia] |
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Kryllion Registered user Last page view: 7036 days, 23 hours, 15 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
I failed chemistry three times in high school and never got to physics. Similiarly, I took four years of Spanish... Spanish I, Spanish II, Spanish II and Spanish II. However, I do prefer los roguesimilares. ~Kryllion~ Master of the Screeching Humanling |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3749 days, 14 hours, 12 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
School's got very little to do with actual intelligence. I know several people who are very smart; they just don't happen to be good at school... one has ADD; she gets C's and D's but writes beautifully... another is a very good musician; he can write songs and play three instruments, but is three years behind in school... a computer genius who ignores all subjects but math and science... then there's the girl who knows eight languages but dropped out of college with a GPA below 1... On the other hand, though, many people expect you to have a college degree to prove you're smart... but IMO, many people graduate from college without having a single original thought in their lifetimes; while people like the above examples are ignored because they aren't "conventionally" smart. Go figure. Die Gedanken sind Frei [Edited 2 times, last edit on 2/19/2004 at 16:07 (GMT -5) by Iridia] |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3749 days, 14 hours, 12 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
*points to above post* Geez, I really use the ellipsis way too much. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Kryllion Registered user Last page view: 7036 days, 23 hours, 15 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
It's... okay... so did William... Shatner. ~Kryllion~ Master of the Screeching Humanling |
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Palagran Registered user Furry Hybrid Last page view: 6355 days, 7 hours, 11 minutes and 8 seconds ago. |
While Andy does compile information from a newsgroup to make the Guidebook, the only way in which he advertises this (other than the occasional credit given to whoever found out something) is in the intro section of the book, which I can't imagine very many people see. This is, as is demonstrated by nabo's post, misleading. He's getting much more credit than he deserves for his dubious practices. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3749 days, 14 hours, 12 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
I don't think it's that dubious. To anyone who frequents RGRA, the Guidebook as a compilation of knowledge rather than a single work, is quite obvious. "YAGBU" ring a bell? Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Palagran Registered user Furry Hybrid Last page view: 6355 days, 7 hours, 11 minutes and 8 seconds ago. |
Even if you could prove that the majority of ADOM players use the newsgroup, which is arbitrarily unlikely, it would not justify his practices if they are indeed of questionable character. Of course, I only state my opinion, not something I claim to be truth. |
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Cathan Twice-Born Registered user ~ADOM Newbie~ Last page view: 7359 days, 3 hours, 47 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
I find this thread quite interesting because I love math and I am a total computer nerd. I consider myself fairly intelligent, however I hate school and choose to go to it 1 day a week on a bad week, maybe 2-3 on a good one. |
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@ Registered user Q('_'Q)(>'_')> Last page view: 6664 days, 56 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
I play roguelikes but i happen to be bad at math:P <xxxxo~~~~oxxxx> SWORDCHUK |