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Morio
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Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 at 13:26 (GMT -5)

Can you sacrifice the orb guardians, and if you can, do they leave the orbs?


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Alex_
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Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 at 15:37 (GMT -5)

how would you sacrifice them exactly? I'd imagine that it would be impossible to sacrifice one without its leaving an orb.
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Armada
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Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 at 16:24 (GMT -5)

Im 95% sure you can sacrifice the guardians, but they scoot there way around the altars like the Hill Orcs do.

Oh, and dont forget youll be drawn towards the altars alignment unless your a crowned champion.

And yes, sacrificed monsters always leave their items.

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Majin
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Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 at 18:43 (GMT -5)

About 2 adom versions ago i sacced the ancient chaos wyrm, not on the chaos altar at the top of the ToEF, but on the Lawful altar i had luckily found on the previous level, so it is possible to sac the guardians, but you wont get nearly as much exp for them.


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killer
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Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 at 20:28 (GMT -5)

uhhh.... how do u sacrifice someone?
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Armada
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Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 at 20:43 (GMT -5)

Wait till they are walking over an Altar you can see, and press Shift-O

Thats the letter O, not a zero.

Its a good idea to make sure the Altar is the same alignment as you though

Larrack
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 at 01:57 (GMT -5)

Well, first, it IS a good idea to make sure you know what alignment the altar is. If it is the same as you, then even heroes with low piety can sacrifice quite happily. The only exception seems to be chaotic heroes with chaotic altars trying to sacrifice chaotic creatures more powerful than themselves (ie orb guardians)

The two general rules are:

1) Never, EVER, sacrifice a creature that it is either of your alignment or the alignment of the altar.

2) If you must use an altar that is not of your alignment, have a high piety level.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 at 16:21 (GMT -5)

Chaotics can sacrifice chaotics with no penalty, chaotic gods don't care. Orcs, goblins and basically every monster who can speak will also sacrifice you whenever they get the chance.
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Maelstrom
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Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 at 08:19 (GMT -5)

Not only chaotic NPC will do that - imagine my precrowned/going for a second precrowning char getting sacrificed by a barbarian (neutral), because I mistook it for a berzerker(chaotic) and stood on a neutral altar...
Ratlings, barbarian/-leaders, cavemen - those neutral NPC can speak and kill you in one of the most annoying ways.

Lawful chars also can sacrifice you if hostile, so beware of those postal dwarves ;P


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Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 at 17:55 (GMT -5)

Other than the "know alignment" spell, how exactly are you supposed to know the alignment of the monsters? I always find it easier to play chaotic characters, 'cuz then I can sacrifice pretty much anything that's alive. But when I'm N- or higher, I have a heckuva time trying to figure out who I can and can't sac.


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Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 at 02:03 (GMT -5)

I reckon being lawful is better. Lawful monsters are fairly rare and easily recognised, plus you don't have to be so careful not to step on the altar you're using.
Warlord*
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Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 at 08:53 (GMT -5)

The Paladin's special ability is other way. Then it is easy most animals are neutral, goblins, orcs, trolls etc chaotic. Dwarves, blink dogs beggars are lawful.
Egg King
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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 at 03:41 (GMT -5)

Ive tried to sac the Snake from beyond and no it doesnt work (I mean come on! thats the most chessy way of killing a boss Ive heard of, shame on you for thinking it! Ok so I actually tried it:)
I believe the message is along the lines of...
"GET THAT THING AWAY FROM ME!"
Yeah you all think I'm joking but try it.
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Armada
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Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 at 19:04 (GMT -5)

i just tried it in my most recent game and got something in chaos speak. The altar was still black of course.

Said something about how the servant was more usefull than you, why didnt i just step on the altar sacrifice myself

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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 at 05:46 (GMT -5)

Ah, so you can't sac orb guardians. Good to know.

Unless, perhaps, you converted the altar to L/N first? Of course that would be hard to do with the orb guardian still around to sac you at the first opportunity; and you'd have to be a crowned champion of course.


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Majin
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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 at 07:06 (GMT -5)

Mabey you need to sac it on an altar which is on a different level, ie not one of the chaos altars that the guardian hangs around.


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Alex
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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 at 10:12 (GMT -5)

Kryllion: try the guidebook

http://www.andywlms.com/adom/adomgb-app-J.html


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Egg King
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Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 at 01:15 (GMT -5)

Yeah It was a neutral altar that was one lvl up. You people never give up on cheesy ways do you?
(The snakes not even that hard, the only one that gives me probs is the mana orb guardian)
Though it sounds as if you get a different Msg depending on the align of the altar.
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Morio
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Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 at 01:58 (GMT -5)

I didn't mean that the temples are too hard but I just liked to know if it was possible or not!!!


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Lurk
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Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 at 15:02 (GMT -5)

*Hijacks thread*

Does equiping the orbs cause corruption?
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Armada
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Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 at 18:15 (GMT -5)

No, just using. For a long time i didnt know putting one in the orb slot gave you the 10 stat boost :/

I thought you actually had to use it

Some guy
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Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2004 at 02:38 (GMT -5)

95% of the time it's easy to guess what alignment a monster is, so you don't really need Know Alignment or the paladin power or the guidebook very badly. There are some messed up mosters, though... grey slayers are chaotic but according to monster memory are "fighters of balance".
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Alex
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 08:49 (GMT -5)

Does anyone know if it's possible to smash the elemental altars (by kicking them, or by leading a moloch to them) If so what happens?


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Majin
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 19:42 (GMT -5)

You probally can smash them, but IIRC if you convert all of the elemental altars you'll get a wand of wishing when you face Andor (obviously only helpful if your going for an Ultra)


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Jonesy
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 21:21 (GMT -5)

No, you don't, IIRC.


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Majin
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Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 at 07:49 (GMT -5)

Hmm... I'm sure i read that somewhere...
*shrugs shoulders*
oh well


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Some guy
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Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 13:20 (GMT -5)

By the way, you can also sacrifice yourself, by dropping all your stuff and then trying to sacrifice something.

"You could probably sacrifice yourself. Do you want to do so? [y/n]y
You strangle yourself on the altar. *your god* seems very displeased with you..."
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Armada
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Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 at 13:23 (GMT -5)

The gods of chaos laugh at your idiotic gesture. Its quite funny

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Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 at 08:03 (GMT -5)

It's not even possible to strangle yourself...

And your god should attempt to stop you from doing things that displease him.


ChAoS iS cOmInG!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Armada
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Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 at 16:05 (GMT -5)

By doing what? Giving you a nice bolt of divine justice? Wouldnt that just end up killing you anyways.

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