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DaN Registered user Cursed and Doomed Last page view: 6984 days, 1 hour, 59 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
I know appearence and charisma affects the way NPC react to your character but has anyone noticed any quantitive effects on things like shop prices? just curious cuz a character of mine got a couple of PoGA changing Ch and Ap 15 and 14 respectively and resulted in a 3gp drop in the price of water in a potion shop. ain't much but it's the first time i've noticed it. it would be interesting to know how much of a difference all the drops in Ap due to corruptions really makes. sorry if this a repeated topic ;) |
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Larrack Unregistered user |
Its very noticeable for experienced players, especially in the price of your first large ration from munxip. I cannot give you a formula, but a ten point change in BOTH appearance and charisma seems to be about a double or halved price. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5657 days, 4 hours, 24 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
IIRC charisma affects shop prices for male chars and appearance for females. Race is another BIG factor. Play a hurthling char up to dwarftown and compare the prices to shopping with a dark elf. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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BlackDragonIncarnate Registered user NotAllThere Last page view: 7272 days, 6 hours, 41 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
I always hate it when I'm playing a dwarf, and the shopkeeper in the bandit town is an orc, prices are about tripled. Especially when an artifact is generated in there. People stabbed in the face don't talk much
Mostly they just gurgle
And bleed
-Black Mage
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DaN Registered user Cursed and Doomed Last page view: 6984 days, 1 hour, 59 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
the dark elf thing is a right pain cuz i really like dark elves :( and selling sis to waldenbrook is normally the easiest source of income. luckily Leggot or whaever his name is isn't normally so biased |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7122 days, 16 hours, 21 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Actually, racial prejudices seem to be far more influental than Ch/Ap. Bad for dark elves, good for dwarves. :-) Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |
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Some guy Unregistered user |
I've been playing dark elven wizards for the skills dark elves get, and yeah, I hate Waldenbrook. When selling unidentified items to him you have to remember to multiply what he offers you by ten, to keep an eye out for special items. I'm still waiting for an everything shop somewhere close to dwarftown with something a dark elf can get chummy with. I once got an orcish shopkeeper for an everything shop on the level below dwarftown, but... that was with a dwarf. |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7122 days, 16 hours, 21 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Btw, I had a nice opportunity to test that. My current char, DE assassin, got precrowned with crown of leadership {Ch +18}. Munxip's prices didn't drop a bit (33gp for an uncursed large ration in both cases). So, I guess, only racial prejudices are really taken into the account. Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5657 days, 4 hours, 24 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Have you tried other shops? Munxip might be special. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7122 days, 16 hours, 21 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Yes, just tried that with the casino shop. No effect. Well, I guess I should also test some dungeon shop too, at least it should be absolutely "normal" in that there shouldn't be any special implications but Ch/Ap and racial prejudices... Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |
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Maastonakki Registered user A cute puppy Last page view: 5816 days, 13 hours, 32 minutes and 23 seconds ago. |
well, in casino you can't haggle, so what makes you think he would lower the prices even if you were sean connery with charisma of 99? |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7122 days, 16 hours, 21 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Maastonakki, yeah, that might be correct. Also I should've tested selling prices. But if Ch/Ap only affects haggled prices, without lowering base prices, it is of little use anyway. I personally never bother training Haggling, and without that all I get is - "blah blah blah, perhaps I should even f...ing raise those f...ing prices!" Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5657 days, 4 hours, 24 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Is your char male? If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7122 days, 16 hours, 21 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Yes. So it's Ch that should matter, iirc. Ap matters for females, right? Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5657 days, 4 hours, 24 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Yes. That is really weird. I seem to recall very clearly how the prices changed at Waldenbrooks when I was playing a gnomish bard after he found the crown of leadership. It was a long while ago, but still. So you looked at prices the shopkeepers had on their things, not when selling stuff of your own? Maybe there's a difference. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/12/2004 at 03:21 (GMT -5) by J.] |
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Warlord* Unregistered user |
Maybe it is that Dark Elves have so enormous penalty, that the increase in CH didn't do enough difference to be shown? Haven't played Dark Elves in a bit, but I do remember hating shopkeepers when I did...the prices were ridiculous. |
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DaN Registered user Cursed and Doomed Last page view: 6984 days, 1 hour, 59 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
+18 should have made a big dent in the shop prices but there are no doubt many other factors. the non random shops might have diffrent rules governing their prices compared to random shops. as warlord said being a DE doesn't help |