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Fred
Unregistered user
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 at 23:19 (GMT -5)

Im new to these forums so pardon me if i havent learned the etiquette yet.

I just had to ask if there is a reason the score for finishing an ultra is actually LOWER than a regular victory. The ultra is far, far more difficult.

For example, the two characters that follow:

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Lucifer St:99 Le:79 Wi:91 Dx:99 To:99 Ch:55 Ap:36 Ma:76 Pe:49 L+
DV/PV: 84/71 H:1334(1334) P:7(1442) Exp: 50/26170415 ChAoS Sp: 499
Blessed Bloated Berserk
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Name: Lucifer Race: male Dark Elf Class: Paladin
Eye color: amber Hair color: white Complexion: black
Height: 6' Weight: 123 pounds
Age: 215 (grown-up, 75 years of unnatural aging added in)
Star sign: Unicorn Birthday: 3/Unicorn (day 93 of the year)

YOUR HISTORY:
Your parents are travelling adventurers. They are doing moderately
well but are talented enough to survive.
In your childhood you were fascinated by your environment and the
everchanging wonders of the world. You were a very curious and adventurous
child.
As a kid you often watched the adult adventurers preparing for new
exciting journeys. They sparked your imagination.
Your life as a young adult was characterized by steady
determination. Your goal lay clearly ahead of you and you never strayed
from your path.
You decided to become a Paladin.


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Total weight: 621462 stones Carrying capacity: 1103502 stones

He: blessed crown of leadership [+2, +7] {Ch+18} [65s]
Ne: blessed sapphire amulet "Preserver" [+4, +4] {Wi+7} [3s]
Bo: blessed robes of resistance (-4, -4) [+3, +12] {To+5} [60s]
Gi: blessed girdle of greed [+3, +0] [7s]
Cl: blessed cloak of protection [+6, +3] [20s]
RH: blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12] {Ma+24}
LH: -
RR: blessed ring of immunity [1s]
LR: blessed ring of slaying (+9 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
Br: blessed bracers of war [+8, +4] {Dx+8} [10s]
Ga: blessed iron gauntlets "Ironfist" (-1, +0) [+1, +3] {St+7} [10s]
Bo: blessed seven league boots [+4, +0] [30s]
MW: blessed heavy crossbow "The Far Slayer" (+18, +18) [350s]
Mi: blessed obsidian quarrel "Thunderstroke" (+8, 20d4+8) [2s]
Tl: blessed torch (4326 turns of fuel remaining, lit) [10s]



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Lucifer, the dark elven paladin, transformed into an avatar of Order.
He scored 9273702 points and advanced to level 50.











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Lord Fred St:42 Le:27 Wi:29 Dx:42 To:35 Ch:44 Ap:34 Ma:21 Pe:26 L+
DV/PV:109/66 H:879(879) P:320(320) Exp: 50/38189570 DrCh Sp: 137
Blessed
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Name: Lord Fred Race: male High Elf Class: Paladin
Eye color: light blue Hair color: black Complexion: pale
Height: 6'6" Weight: 130 pounds
Age: 201 (grown-up)
Star sign: Cup Birthday: 22/Cup (day 262 of the year)

YOUR HISTORY:
Your mother is a mighty enchantress. She is unmarried. Your father
is living in the vicinity of your mother's tower. He is a humble shepherd.
In your childhood you were tortured by your cruel parents. They
seemed to thoroughly hate and despise you.
In your youth you enjoyed competition against others to the
fullest. You were a very active kid.
As a young adult you left your home because of trouble with your
parents. They opposed your plans for the future without understanding your
wishes. Thus you decided to live on your own. You wandered through the
country for many years, growing older and wiser and learning many things.
You decided to become a Paladin.


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Total weight: 8581 stones Carrying capacity: 14541 stones

He: blessed crown of leadership [+2, +7] {Ch+18} [65s]
Ne: blessed Aylas Holy Scarf [+10, +10] {Ch+6} [5s]
Bo: blessed eternium plate mail (-1, -2) [-1, +14] [240s]
Gi: blessed adamantium girdle [+0, +5] [18s]
Cl: blessed cloak of protection [+0, +3] [20s]
RH: blessed jet-black battle axe (named) (+2, 5d6+6) [-4, +1] {St+3} (+3 spd)
LH: blessed medium obsidian shield (named) [+20, +4] {To+2} [46s]
RR: blessed ring of immunity [1s]
LR: blessed ring of slaying (+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
Br: blessed bracers of war [+8, +4] {Dx+8} [10s]
Ga: blessed iron gauntlets (named) (-1, +0) [+1, +3] {St+7} [10s]
Bo: blessed seven league boots [+4, +1] [30s]
MW: blessed long bow of hunting (+8, +6) [30s]
Mi: bundle of 8 uncursed arrows of demon slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [16s]
Tl: uncursed broken pick axe (-2, 1d6+4) [75s]


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meestro_mozart
Unregistered user
Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 at 02:59 (GMT -5)

i've had the smae thing, AoO finish 8 million and an gate closing 11 mill. pretty dumb allright. i think you need to hold onto the chaos trinity pieces when you kill andor instead of dropping htem, or even wear them once he's critical. just a guess.

what i wanna know is how people get 80 million.
Gozer
Unregistered user
Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 at 05:06 (GMT -5)

Guidebook includes the scoring algorithm although I have no idea how accurate it is. To get huge scores you have to finish the game quickly and acquire huge experience (usually by wishing for AKWs or EM). Apparently a regular ending quadruples your final score whereas an ultra just gives you a (much smaller) fixed bonus.
Maastonakki
Registered user
A cute puppy


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Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 at 05:37 (GMT -5)

humz I completed the game in 41 game days, but died afterwards and it gave me 6.97mil... It was my quickest & the easiest victory, I wonder would the final score really have been like 28~mil... since normal winning (According to gozer here) quadruples the score.. damn that would have been my highest score... all other 5 have been under 20 mil :{[

Frederick
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X2.


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Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 at 17:17 (GMT -5)

i just find this odd because Lucifer was my first ultra ending and ended it with a happy heart and high expectations... for #1 on my HS list. instead, i see it #7 with all 6 of my regular victories ALL above him.

i spent a TON of time on this character (a lot of it being boring scumming-for-items activity... i REALLY wanted to win :P), to ensure my victory and no chance of death. It was to the point where i had zero trouble with temples, and Andor drakon took only a couple of pokes from ToTRR to kill.

i felt kind of cheated when even my 60 day "lets see how fast i can finish this game" gnome elementalist beat Lucif out =P


Those who fear the darkness have never seen what the light can do.
Gozer
Unregistered user
Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2004 at 05:33 (GMT -5)

I don't think it is as straightforward as a regular ending score being quadruple whatever your ultra ending score is. However, if you look through the HOF you will find that regular endings yield consistently larger scores than ultra endings.

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J.
Registered user
You'll never get rid of me


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5663 days, 16 hours, 6 minutes and 22 seconds ago.
Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2004 at 10:35 (GMT -5)

It's something along the lines of your score getting doubled when you close the gate, then doubled again when you leave the mountain range. You don't do either when you do an ultra ending.

Experience gives points, as does wearing expensive stuff on your char when you end the game. If you look through the files with the highest scores the guys are wearing mostly artifacts.

But who cares about some silly point system?


If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away.

Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad."

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