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Gozer
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Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 13:46 (GMT -5)

Ok – round 2! Big thank you to everyone who has participated so far! Here are the winners from round 1 . . .

1. Greater Titan wins against Mimic Hivemind by a landslide! 11 votes to 0!
2. Doppleganger King just edges out Quickling Queen in the closest of the four fixtures! 6 votes to 5!
3. Stone Ooze is convincingly beaten by Emperor Lich – 9 votes to 1.
4. Balor comfortably takes down Eternium Golem. 7 votes to 3.


Here are the semi-finals. Remember: for each of the randomly-generated pairings below, select which monster you believe has the greatest fear factor. I will give everyone 48 hours to respond. On Saturday evening (South African time) I will total the votes, identify which monsters go through to the final, and post the final round.

Round 2 Fixtures

1. Greater Titan (A) vs Emperor Lich (B)
2. Doppleganger King (A) vs Balor (B)

Happy voting!
KillerClawLobster
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Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 16:50 (GMT -5)

My opinion on the contestants...
1. A, no contest
2. B, definitely B.
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Jonesy
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Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 17:21 (GMT -5)

Bah. You forgot Andy vs Khelly. Adombot, anyone?
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Danielle unlogged
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Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 18:44 (GMT -5)

A, B
illumi
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Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 18:45 (GMT -5)

1 B (assuming Emperor Lich knows how to slay a Greater Titan: summon monsters to protect itself, confuse, and then cast death rays)
2 B

P.S.: Can Emperor Lich drain stat in this Tournament?

[Edited 3 times, last edit on 6/17/2004 at 18:50 (GMT -5) by illumi]
mopgoblin
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Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 21:18 (GMT -5)

1. A. The Emperor lich's stat drains are nasty, but the greater titan's missile attack is worse.

2. B. Balors have those extra abilities which make them slightly nastier.
The Real J.
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 00:55 (GMT -5)

If GT is not immune to death rays it's B. Emperor Lich can summon a lot of nasties to clobber on the GT and cast death ray - game over GT. Even if GT is immune EL still has the benefit of summoning. How long can a GT survive against an onslaught of monsters ?

Again, B. Even though DK's can duplicate some of the skills of the opponent they probably can't duplicate the summoning and teleportation abilities. Thus, against an onslaught of enemies the DK will fall sooner or later.

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Edit: even considering this is specified monster against PC it's still B,B. Greater titans aren't IME that bad. With decent DV and PV their missile attacks aren't too bad. Emperor liches however:

1 - Drain stats (true, not from distance but still)
2 - Summon monsters. GT's don't.
3 - Cast death rays and IIRC other spells as well. One doesn't necessarily have death ray resistance.

As for the second pairing, I find it amazing that wet useless pussies (at least in 1.0.0) like DK got this far. I guess QQ's are even more useless wet pussies and snivelling cowards then. Balors are a lot nastier, no question about that...

J.

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Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä.

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/18/2004 at 08:38 (GMT -5) by The Real J.]
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Morio
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 04:10 (GMT -5)

1. A that missile attack is really deadly
2. B very high to hit and that highly corruting hit is bad
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Ekaterin
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 04:24 (GMT -5)

Jonesy, Andy vs Khelly wouldn't work. Khelly has insanely high DV but goes down to one zap of Burning Hands. You want Andy vs the toughest good unique NPC in the game - Andy vs the Eternal Guardian, or maybe Andy vs Blup's mum.
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Alex
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 05:44 (GMT -5)

1. A
2. A
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eL
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 06:07 (GMT -5)

1. Greater Titan (A) vs Emperor Lich (B)
2. Doppleganger King (A) vs Balor (B)

B - death ray and summonned monsters
A - if YOU are good enough ;)
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Maelstrom
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 08:19 (GMT -5)

PEOPLE! IT'S NOT A FIGHTING TOURNAMENT! It's about what you (your PC) fear the most.

1. A. Emperor liches have a weakness to fire, and cannot drain stats from a distance. Death rays can be resisted. But there is no "Greater-Titan-Fired-Arrows resistance" ;)
2. B. DKs just don't summon, teleport and corrupt. And can be taken down easy if one knows how.
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illumi
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 11:34 (GMT -5)

Oops ... *rereading instruction*

"select which monster you believe has the greatest fear factor"

*agrees with Maelstrom*

my vote stays the same btw *sweats* ........

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/18/2004 at 11:35 (GMT -5) by illumi]
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Jonesy
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 11:40 (GMT -5)

Battle: Great Water Dragon VS Ancient Karmic Wyrm.

Winner: Wyrm.

Battle: Great Karmic Wyrm VS Ancient Karmic Wyrm

Winner: AKW.

Battle: Doppleganger King (Female, strange) VS Balor

Winner: DK in a 1 hit kill.

Battle: Emperor Lich VS Greater Titan

Winner: Emperor Lich after a prelonged battle.
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"Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven."- John Milton, Paradise Lost
"Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth, follow only beauty, and obey only love."- Kahlil Gibran
"I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."- Voltaire.
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[Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/18/2004 at 11:41 (GMT -5) by Jonesy]
illumi
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 11:44 (GMT -5)

Test results?
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Jonesy
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 11:49 (GMT -5)

Indeed. I have a demo-recording of it via ADOMBot, but the playback system will sap your PC of all it CPU power.

The AKW won by default, as the GKW was crit injured, but the AKW was confused but not injured at all.
"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."- Voltaire
"Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven."- John Milton, Paradise Lost
"Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth, follow only beauty, and obey only love."- Kahlil Gibran
"I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."- Voltaire.
"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."-Salman Rushdie

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/18/2004 at 11:49 (GMT -5) by Jonesy]
TheTimpen
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 12:50 (GMT -5)

1. A because when I meet the lich I just pull up some undead slaying ammo. Sure I can use giant slaying on the titan but he shoots ~300 hp quarrels back at me.

2. B because even if the DK hurts, the balor hurts much more.
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Ekaterin
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 14:27 (GMT -5)

Jonesy, have you tried Andor Drakon vs anyone or anything else yet? He is vulnerable to being paralysed, so perhaps a mimic hivemind or stone ooze could defeat him if they could get past his DV.
NMBLNG
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 15:51 (GMT -5)

Emperor Lich and Balor

Liches summon more Liches. And zap me with rays of death. Greater Titans just shoot bolts at me. And there's only one of them. Archers need not fear missile attacks.

Doppleganger Kings die easy if you use magic. Being VERY fast at berzerker helps to. Or blind, for that matter. Balors corrupt. CORRUPT.
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KoRn DogG
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I wanna kill Andy sooo bad...


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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 15:58 (GMT -5)

1)A
2)B
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Z
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 at 16:29 (GMT -5)

(B) I never found GT's deadly, personally.
(A) DKs appear earlier.
Cepheid
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Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 05:26 (GMT -5)

A
B
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Jonesy
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Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 07:52 (GMT -5)

I got tired of messing with Andy, as I had to keep making the map lit again and again cause he kept using darkness on it. IIRC, I used Andy vs the Eternal guardian, but since I (accidently) blasted the guardian to smithereens with a magic missle, I can't be sure. He was pretty much covered with WMoPCs, though, which was why I was trying to get rid of them.
"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."- Voltaire
"Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven."- John Milton, Paradise Lost
"Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth, follow only beauty, and obey only love."- Kahlil Gibran
"I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."- Voltaire.
"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."-Salman Rushdie
dwarf
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Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2004 at 10:37 (GMT -5)

hey gozer were u the one who posted the topic "for newbies who want help"? cause u were supposed to send me some high level guys but never did. just curious about what happened there.
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the mighty NHGH
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Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 at 21:33 (GMT -5)

theres a page where you can download a lvl 50 character. i think its on andy whats his faces guide page.
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dwarf
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 at 12:02 (GMT -5)

i know i already tried that one.
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Morio
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Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 at 04:58 (GMT -5)

is this thread still alive

who got to the finals?
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Cepheid
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Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 at 21:18 (GMT -5)

Since Gozer seems to be away... I tallied the results...

Here they are:

A) Greater Titan Vs B) Emperor Lich:

Greater Titan wins, 9-6.

A) DK Vs Balor:

Balor wins convincingly 11-4.

Have a nice day all...
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Morio
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Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 at 02:01 (GMT -5)

how about a Greater titan vs Balor
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