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BonghBaya Registered user Last page view: 7894 days, 23 hours, 13 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
this kinda continues 'xp and speed'... i also needed the levels for the filk quest some games ago, and wished for emperor molochs (plural gives more of those "little" bastards) in the old barbarian glade. the character was female human barbarian ~ lvl40 with vanquisher, so the greater molochs were not actually a problem, but one interesting thing happened: they dropped quite many hulking armors, and a certain greater moloch ended up wielding one.. my speed was around 300, but still he ran up to me and hit like 6 to 8 times in turn! my hp dropped to 13 in one turn, so luckily i had the change to teleport away. i don't know if that's a bug or if it's meant to be so, but anyways it scared the crap out of me.. primmm... mYh34Df E3L5liK3aFRiSb3e |
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Sengoku Registered user Last page view: 7928 days, 9 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
Hulking armour is very heavy so it would slow you down not speed you up. So my guess is that's a bug. |
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Jan Erik Administrator Last page view: 1 day, 1 hour, 3 minutes and 16 seconds ago. |
Oh it's denfenetly a bug... IMHO it's a bit wierd that Molocs (of any kind) can equip armor anyway, I mean they all wear Moloc armor by default... But then again if you are going to start making exceptions like that things get complicated fast (a lot of monsters supposedly have sertain equipment already (swordmen for example)). Jan Erik Mydland HoF admin |
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Mist_Jonne Registered user Last page view: 6284 days, 13 hours, 26 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
molochs are very slow. If they equip moloch armor, they will get a speed and dext below 0. With means that their speed loops. (They get around 9999 in speed) :/ Killing someone is always a winning argument... |
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Kirbot Registered user BattleHax0r of Devastation Last page view: 5882 days, 13 hours, 52 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
O_o Would that be possible for a player to achieve? Like... possible exploit? Eep? Molach: "I like to have 200+ hp and over 5 good healin potions when I do [the fire] temple. AND some way of killing the Wyrm" Morio: "Some way of killing the worm is recommended, yes :D" |
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Silfir Unregistered user |
Even boots of the slow shuffle PLUS moloch armor will only lower your speed by 50 or so, being Strained! + Bloated by another 25... No, I don't think you can even reach values lower than, say, 20, so I don't think this is a bug YOU can exploit. Even if you did manage to do it, it's like piety overflow. Could be considered cheating. |
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Gulthorpe Registered user Last page view: 6117 days, 10 hours, 54 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
How about slow monster spell or slowing from WMoPCs then equipping those items and getting strained! and bloated. Speed should then drop lower than 0. At least theoretically. |
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Nillo Registered user Last page view: 5313 days, 3 hours, 45 minutes and 32 seconds ago. |
Maybe play a drakeling and get frozen near solid, then equip moloch armor and boots of slow shuffle? Suddenly a stone block hits your head! Your looks improve. You feel more in touch with the world. |
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Cat Lord Lord Registered user Not really Last page view: 5442 days, 22 hours, 41 minutes and 24 seconds ago. |
That might happen, but the game might do something to stop your speed from dropping to say, less then 10. Can't you also drink cursed potions of speed? That might work. Someone should try this. Homework is not meant for home! It's a sick verbal coincidence! -My brother |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4237 days, 5 hours, 40 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Speed can't go below 10 as far as I'm aware. Anyway, the actual overflow thing with creatures wearing moloch armour is from Dexterity, not speed. The min for any character on Dex is 1, so it can't be abused. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Taz Registered user Registered user Last page view: 5023 days, 8 hours, 37 minutes and 43 seconds ago. |
monsters have dexterity stat? i think that speed makes more sense. Taz: A potion of gain attributes (4s) is lying here. Suddenly a stone block hits your head! Something on the ground is smashed to pieces! PeanutGod: Awwww no! How harsh is that! This is where you need the artefact 'mop and bucket'. |
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FUNKtional Key Registered user A Die-Hard Tactician Last page view: 5786 days, 21 hours, 10 minutes and 23 seconds ago. |
i'd say that if your base speed is ~120 or even bit more u *can* drop it below zero (in theory) by casting slow monster (this _halves_ your speed), wearing boots of the slow shuffle and moloch armor, and optionally get bloated or strained. so this supa-dupa-mega-bug can probably work, but u'll seemingly have 2 cast slow over and over again=) i *will* test that wit my L50 female hurthling merchant, all i need is those boots, so right now i'm gremlin-scumming for a wish 2 spare All roads lead to chaos, in the end. |
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Blacklion Registered user Jellies... BAH! Last page view: 5003 days, 12 hours, 16 minutes and 56 seconds ago. |
I'll continue with the hulking armor-theme... I was wondering why I couldn't hit a revenant in melee (+70 to hit on normal tactics). Then I checked the 'm' option while looking at the monster. He had dv of like "18302866" :S As I suspected, that damned thingy had picked up and probably equipped that damn armor. Luckily I had burning hands-spell :) [Edited 1 time, last edit on 9/23/2006 at 13:19 (GMT -5) by Blacklion] |
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ej Unregistered user |
You can't lower your character's speed to below 10. |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4147 days, 10 hours, 57 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
even with cursed potions of quickling blood? gonna check that... A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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mattam Unregistered user |
Btw: Anybody ever ate a moloch? I remember one character who got a moloch corpse, but i was too afraid to try. anybody knows what eating molochs does to you? |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4147 days, 10 hours, 57 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
+to -dx for regular ones done once in a library A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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miker Unregistered user |
I gave the moloch armor to Hawkslayer... he equiped it! |
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Miker Unregistered user |
Hawkslayer now has DV of 37675146 OMG! and PV of 67 lol and speed of 116 |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4237 days, 5 hours, 40 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Haha, that's beautifully insane :) Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |