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Agier Unregistered user |
I'm trying to clear a greater undead vault with a level 50 char that already closed the gate. I already killed 7 emperor liches but im really struggling. They summon way too much, including greater karmyc gragons and so on... Anyone have tips on how to finish it ? Also, how many emperor liches are there on average ? |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3870 days, 11 hours, 59 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Which class are you playing? If you play a pure melee char, then it's a bit hard, but you could maybe try wands of poison on the liches (not sure if it works). "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Oops, im playing a gnomish wizard. |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6941 days, 7 hours and 22 minutes ago. |
Acid Ball and improved fireball. If you're low on mana, teleport out, wait till it regenerates, come back. The downside is that you'll destroy all the nice random dropped stuff... but if you've already won I don't think you care much ;). |
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Phibby&Dol Registered user Incarnation of Illu Last page view: 6964 days, 15 hours, 44 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
My tips is to hide in a corridor while the emperor liches are in a room. When they can't see you they won't summon anything =) The next step is to cast bolt spells (magic missile and lightning) that can bounce at walls. Diagonally the bolt can enter the room and kill everything inside. |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6941 days, 7 hours and 22 minutes ago. |
Liches will shrug off the bolts. And even if they don't, they'll heal themselves. You can also try to ball them from other side of the wall (balls penetrate stone). |
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Ashandarei Registered user Spearmaster Last page view: 4910 days, 19 hours, 23 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
Hm, leave it alone. It's my advice. If you've alredy closed the gate, what is the point of fighting liches? The rust monster touches your blessed Trident of the Red Rooster. Nothing happens. You laugh at the monster's pitiful attempt. |
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Sargoth Registered user Bard Last page view: 4928 days, 6 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
Hey, clearing an undead vault is it´s own reward. http://tankefel.blogspot.com/ So far you have only killed one wild cat. |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5585 days, 20 hours, 40 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
You could try raising MA and WI to 99 by scumming for stat potions and raise magic missile to around level 100 and zap inside at an angle somewhat like this: ############### ###############@ L\/\/\/\/ ############### ############### At high level magic missile is *REALLY* deadly. The Liches may shrug them off every now and then but they should fall eventually. J. Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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Ashandarei Registered user Spearmaster Last page view: 4910 days, 19 hours, 23 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
Except that they every now and then heal themselves :P. I still say that leave it alone. The rust monster touches your blessed Trident of the Red Rooster. Nothing happens. You laugh at the monster's pitiful attempt. |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3571 days, 16 hours, 6 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
carefull when u use magick missile. I lost my fav wizard, called Harry Potter when I got very far in the game, I accidentaly shot my self in a tunnel and when I died I had about -271.(and that was only 23 effectivity For the Horde! |
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Ashandarei_ Unregistered user |
Heh, try zapping a wand of farslaying in a corridor with 2000 pp and 99 Wi ;) |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6941 days, 7 hours and 22 minutes ago. |
Mewto: with this name no wonder he zapped himself ;D |
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Warlord* Unregistered user |
If he had been Ron then I'd agree zapping himself would be natural. But Harry is a Hero! |
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thedrin# Unregistered user |
I came across my first ever vault at about 12 o'clock to day (GMT). A greater Undead Vault (I assume - tougher undead than what I got would be scary). Wands of door creation Magic lock or keys Magic Missile. These 3 combined cleared the vault quite easily. However acid ball had to be used against the two emperor liches. Took more than 3 hours of playing for my wizard to clear it though and more than 4000 magic missile "memory" charges (started with over 6000). |
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Some guy Registered user I'm baaaack. Last page view: 5575 days, 12 hours, 15 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
I killed off two greater undead vaults with a level 50 drakling monk, almost completely by reusing my ammo of undead slaying, and one of those had 10 emperor liches in it. Magic isn't too necessary. The following is a real Adom message: The homunculus hits you. You suddenly fall asleep! Do you want to continue to read the spellbook of Calm Monster? [y/N] |
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Maastonakki Registered user A cute puppy Last page view: 5795 days, 17 hours, 46 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
magic is for cowards. |
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Ashandarei Registered user Spearmaster Last page view: 4910 days, 19 hours, 23 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
No it isn't. Magic is for those who dare to use it :P The rust monster touches your blessed Trident of the Red Rooster. Nothing happens. You laugh at the monster's pitiful attempt. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 2/6/2005 at 11:30 (GMT -5) by Ashandarei] |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3571 days, 16 hours, 6 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Magic is a talent, not a skill. It cannot be learned, and it can also be a blessing and a curse. For the Horde! |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6941 days, 7 hours and 22 minutes ago. |
Magic is damn powerful but not reliable... bolts can be shrugged off, balls can be resisted by some creatures, mana can be sucked by blue eyes ;)))) or you can simply run out of it... Whereas a good weapon in hands of skilled fighter is impossible to avoid ;). |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3571 days, 16 hours, 6 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Dude, what's so cool about being a fighter or a barbarian? I dont like chars that melee only, a paladin or priest are great, because they can cast spells and fight. In every kool books, like Feist's and Edding's characters usually wield a sword but are also talented magicians. I think that's what makes the books sell, even though the idea is quite old now. Few people like pure fighters nowadays. Even archers are better IMO. For the Horde! |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6941 days, 7 hours and 22 minutes ago. |
Well, I don't know, but for some reason I meleed a lot with a wizard... And a priest is no better in combat than a wizard, just has better starting equipment, so it seems so. And archers... a bit too easy I think, with those all arrows or quarrels of slaying... ;) |
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Maastonakki Registered user A cute puppy Last page view: 5795 days, 17 hours, 46 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
umm... you mean the head character, right? I don't remember that many others capable of spell casting at edding's... :x |
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agier Unregistered user |
Thanks, managed to clear it simply by casting tons of spells. Only bad part was emperor liches healing themselves. |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3571 days, 16 hours, 6 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Sparhawk, Flute,... Guinea, I also melee a lot with a wiz, and I think that a priest is tougher than a wizard. A priest also gets item detect skill or whatever which is my fav skill after backstabbing. Another reason why I think a priest is a better meleer, look at the heir gift: And look at a wizard's For the Horde! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 2/7/2005 at 11:18 (GMT -5) by Mewto] |
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Arch-mage Unregistered user |
The wizards is most tought class in the game, as ONLY wizards can have grand mastery in all weapons, speed about 2000 and all skills at 100 in 90 days |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3571 days, 16 hours, 6 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Why would wizards have grand mastery in all weapons in 90 days? They increase weapon skills much slower than other classes, and you'd have to start using weapons from day 1 or so. And that's impossible for a wizard if he doesn't have a spell like cure serious wounds. If you want to achieve grand mastery by using the wish system, u'll have to scum the Id and wilderness for a lot of potions, and that takes time, usually more than 90, I think For the Horde! |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6480 days, 8 hours, 23 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
beh... I cleared two greater undead vaults in a row with a necromancer at lower than level 50. they're easy peasy. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Arch-mage Unregistered user |
I have saved game with level 47 wizard, who has all grand masteries, all skills at 100 and speed about 1000 at day 77. Moreother, he has 12K PP, so he can cast wish from book 3 times in a row. And his saves himself about 10 times. This char clears great undead vault with magic missile on CLVL 30. It was about 5 emperor liches. |
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XaXeXiXoXu Registered user Ancient Weight Dragon Last page view: 6947 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes and 7 seconds ago. |
I had one game where *2* greater undead vaults were generated, one on the level below the first. It takes a lot of patience, and lots of undead slaying ammo. Lure out the liches, be a grand master of bows/crossbows etc., wear all to-hit improving gear, go berserk, and peg them before they can heal. Apparently the rune-covered trident no longer slays undead :( In a pinch, I've killed them with javelins of death, drakish scurgari of death... anything that does massive damage. The trick is to hit them consistently, so you may want to travel the wilderness some more to improve your missile weapon skills. XaXeXiXoXu, the ancient weight dragon, breathes weight at you! You are suddenly overburdened! |