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Karry Unregistered user |
What is x-slayer or arrows of x-slaying actually do ? Does that simply mean that all hits will be "full force" ? And how many times more exactly is this "full force" compared to normal attacks ? I wonder if Vanquisher is such an uber-weapon... Also, just who is considered humanoid ? Any exact lists ? |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3089 days, 19 hours, 7 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Yes, every hit with a slaying weapon/ammo is a full force/critical hit (not to be confused with hiting and criticali wounding a monster, which is just a message about the enemy's hit points). Not sure exacly how much more damage it does, but it works ;) Humanoids are: Every humanoid (duh!) - all "g", "@", "h", "u" Every Giant - "H" Every demon - "&", "I" Most undead - "L", "Z" and "z" for sure, not sure about "G" Golems maybe ("Y"), not sure, but I think I scored full force hits with Serpent's bite on Flesh Golems and Clay golems... A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 5/29/2005 at 11:51 (GMT -5) by Maelstrom] |
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Sargoth Registered user Bard Last page view: 4928 days, 10 hours, 1 minute and 40 seconds ago. |
Isn't the "full force" message the one you get from a successful Find Weakness roll? http://tankefel.blogspot.com/ So far you have only killed one wild cat. |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3089 days, 19 hours, 7 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Yeah. You don't need find weakness to get a "full force" hit, that skill increases the chance to get one. And some items to the same thing (ring of the master cat, braces of war, some weapons). A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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*cobaltofdoom* Registered user Last page view: 6793 days, 3 hours, 14 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
and summing everything up vanquisher is and everything-slayer... full force hits every freaking time. neat. but it does tend to give people a god complex that gets you killed. |
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"Every humanoid (duh!)" Yeah ? How about Chaos servants ? Various slayers ? Invisible stalkers ?? "vanquisher is and everything-slayer" Its not a plant slayer. :) Not a bug-slayer too. |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3089 days, 19 hours, 7 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
No, it's not an "everything slayer", not only is doesn't slay bugs and plants, it also does not slay animals and fantasy animals (Snake From the Beyond). Oh, forgot about Orcs, Ogres, most Chaos Beings and so on. Most stuff is a humanoid, so a humanoid slayer will do just about as good as Vanquisher. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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tongHoAnh Registered user adoomed Last page view: 6599 days, 14 hours, 23 minutes and 36 seconds ago. |
Critical hit deal 3x max dmg IIRC My RL dumpyard: http://www.geocities.com/ceruleannebula/index.html |
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Naiyor* Unregistered user |
with my elven archer I made a bundle of 20 arrows of slaying. X's of slaying slay everything...there wasn't a monster that didn't get whacked by those things. |
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tongHoAnh Registered user adoomed Last page view: 6599 days, 14 hours, 23 minutes and 36 seconds ago. |
How many arrows could you make out of one stick (seriously) I havent tried making any after all these years of playing. My RL dumpyard: http://www.geocities.com/ceruleannebula/index.html |
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Naiyor* Unregistered user |
I prefer to use blessed trees(no idea if the blessed helps though) Trees sometimes make 30+ arrows 1 stick sometimes makes arount 8-15 arrows. this can vary though...its been quite a while since i played an archer. |
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*cobaltofdoom* Registered user Last page view: 6793 days, 3 hours, 14 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
yes blessed log blessed fletchery set 100 to fletchery if you can ive made HUGE bundles least 50 and i think i hit close to 80 once.. dont quote me on that one though its been a while since i was an archer. im prety sure luck and fate afected it as well i was testing it out at the time but i think its worth a holy water to bless teh set |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5114 days, 5 hours, 32 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
And I didn't even know you could use logs... I just tested and my testing-archer ("Fletch") got 24 arrows from a stick with fletchery 75-80 or so. So one should be able to get plenty with maxxed skill and a log. |
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Naiyor Registered user Last page view: 1857 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
All this talk of archers makes me want to give the archer another shot. I was just thinking about a bundle of 80 blessed arrows of slaying....Grins with deranged evil intent :) |
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tongHoAnh Registered user adoomed Last page view: 6599 days, 14 hours, 23 minutes and 36 seconds ago. |
"And I didn't even know you could use logs..." IIRC, the manual said logs are just big sticks ;) My RL dumpyard: http://www.geocities.com/ceruleannebula/index.html |
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Naiyor Registered user Last page view: 1857 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
Hi Guys. I started a new archer, with all this talk about slaying ammo I couldn't help it. Anyways, my archer was lev 9 with ~90 in fletchery. and I created a bundle of 27 arrows of slaying from a log...on my first try. How lucky is that...I think the RNG is going to kill me now! without the lev 18 power( or whatever level the fletch skill comes into play) I have been getting about 25-40 arrows from logs and 10 - 20 from sticks. It does get alot better once you get thea class power. I definately feel that 80 arrows from a log is possible. anyways enough of my rambling...Archers Rock |