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Dwarvish Champion Unregistered user |
how much less gold does it take for a dwarf to crown than others? what is the influence of levels on crowing? what is the influence of the number of artifacts crowning? does wishing for piety do anything? finally, can a formula be made for the amount of gold needed for crowing? proposed execution of the very-repetitive experiment: 1. go to dwarftown with a dwarf and hack some gold (about 110,000) into his pack. 2. offer gp in steps of 10,000 until absoulutely close. 3. repeat steps 1 & 2 with one less step of 10,000gp in step 2 than last time. 4. offer in steps of 1,000gp until absoulutely close. 5. with a non-dwarf go to dwarftown , hack some gold and an artifact into his pack and repeat steps 2-4. 6. If you wish, repeat step 5 with a dwarf. 7. repeat step 5 with 2 & three artifacts in the pack. 8. If you wish, repeat step 5 with a dwarf and 2 & three artifacts in his pack. 9. with a non-dwarf go to dwarftown and hack a WoW and some gold into his pack. 10. wish for piety and repeat steps 2-4. 11. If you wish, repeat steps 9-10 with a dwarf. 12. with a non-dwarf go to dwarftown and hack some gold into his pack. 13. hack him to level 2 and repeat steps 2-4. 14. repeat step 12, hack him to level 5 and repeat steps 2-4. 15. repeat step 12, hack him to level 6 and repeat stesps 2-4. 16. repeat step 12, hack him to level 10 and repeat steps 2-4. 17. repeat step 12, hack him to level 12 and repeat steps 2-4. 18. repeat step 12, hack him to level *50* and repeat steps 2-4. 19. If you wish, repeat steps 12-18 with a dwarf. I hope that this will, with discusion, give rise to a formula for crowning with gold. anyone willing to take on this experiment or should I get WADOMF myself and post the results? |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3748 days, 12 hours, 14 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
*shrugs* You're the guy who thought of it. Why not do it yourself? Put on some music or something so you won't be totally bored :) Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Gozer Unregistered user |
With all due respect, I don't know how much practical value a gold-crowning equation would offer. It would be interesting to see how much less gold dwarves require, but beyond that I haven't been in too many situations where I needed an exact amount of gold to get crowned - and most of the time I don't bother saccing gold to get crowned anyway. Also, once you reach the Casino, gold problems are pretty much eliminated, which makes any racial discrepancies null and void. |
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Dwarvish Champion Unregistered user |
Ive never found out how to make money with the casino. How do you do it? |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4061 days, 4 hours, 12 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
Look for a slot machine that costs 24 gp to pay. Start playing. Place a heavy object on your space bar. Go do something else for five minutes or more. By the time you return, you're freaking rich. All this takes place in one game turn, so you won't lose time. Yet, you also have to teleport away the big casino guard from the stairs (At least in 1.1.1, this doesn't turn him hostile), he will block them as soon as you win any money, expecting you to spend anything at the Great Gift Shoppe. (Don't forget that very precious items could be generated there, so shopping there is probably a good idea.) You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3891 days, 1 hour, 46 minutes and 21 seconds ago. |
what you also should know is that you'll probably be at 'Hungry!' status when done playing, and you might be stunned for quite some time too "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Dwarvish Champion Unregistered user |
exactly *how much* richer will you be. for instance if you play with 300,000 gp. what is the range of money you will win? double or more and I will make it a point to do this every time I play! I have heard that normally you can't be postcrowned because of alignment. Does that mean that you will go from L+ ot L to LN to NL and become a fallen champion? |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4061 days, 4 hours, 12 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
The longer you play, the richer you will become. That's it - you can start at 10000, and become a millionaire in five minutes. Of course, this takes an awful lot of playing, but all of it is done by holding the space bar down. Thus, the heavy object. About the other question: I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. Playing in the casino doesn't damage alignment. Alignment *can* be changed by sacrificing small amounts of gold at the wrong altar, but a huge sacrifice will convert the altar, making sacrifices perfectly safe for further sacrificing. However, postcrowning doesn't have alignment restrictions other than not being a fallen champion(I think), but it doesn't change alignment as far as I know. The problem with pre- or postcrowning and the casino is that if you reach the casino, there are usually too many artifacts generated to let you become pre- or postcrowned. This has to be done in the early game. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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m.h. Unregistered user |
is there a way to carry large amounts of gold at once...my gold always weighs me down after 200 k or so...wizard.. |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3592 days, 5 hours, 52 minutes and 48 seconds ago. |
yes, there are many ways. 1: Cast Strength Of Atlas,cast it so many times that you're out of PP. That should be enough for some days.. just be careful when you're strength is waning. 2: Blessed Amulet of Greed + Blessed Girdle of Greed. You can carry more money if you have this, but I'd rather have SoA. 3: Blessed Girdle of Carrying. This is one of the best items to find in the beginning of the gamee. If I get burdened at let's say 1500 stones, with the girdle burdenet status will be at over 2500 stones... For the Horde! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 10/28/2005 at 02:00 (GMT -5) by Mewto] |
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Gozer Unregistered user |
Silfir: My point exactly about not bothering to use gold for crowning. Blessed spenseweed is far and away the best way to go IMO. |
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Knud Registered user non-ghost librarian Last page view: 5677 days, 6 hours, 29 minutes and 44 seconds ago. |
Actually, in all my latest games, time did pass while playing slot machines in the Casino. Don't ask me why, it never seems to happen for other people. You know you've played too much ADOM when you try to throw coins at people wearing similar clothes as yourself. |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5468 days, 18 hours, 55 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
Time may pass, but did a turn pass. Corruption, like amulets of order/chaos is based on turns not time. blessed spensweed, what race do you usually play? "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5134 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes and 44 seconds ago. |
He must mean blessed stomofillia, surely? I get bored harvesting it, live sacrifices are pretty decent too. Dig out a level with the altar gives plenty mobs. Anyway for Lawful characters this is good, they can sac anything (almost). For neutrals mabye stomofillia. I usually get my precrowns Lawful for these two reasons. With guaranteed amulet of order you can go to L, and convert any altar to L as well. Precrowns at LAwful are so much simpler. Then you are free to go back to N or C at will. I guess I could have gone for C precrowns too, but that would be evil, wouldn't it? |
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 Armada Registered user Last page view: 1218 days, 15 hours, 37 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
Don't dwarves just take half the usual gold to crown? Like its 100k from 0 piety for a non-dwarf, and 50k only for a dwarf? I swear I read this in the guidebook |
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Gozer Unregistered user |
Molach: Yeah, I meant blessed stomafilia ;) Live sacs are fun, but I find it frustrating unless I am lucky enough to get an altar generated in a good location with a plentiful supply of monsters. Harvesting stomafilia is boring, but it is also much safer and (in my experience anyway) requires a lot less time. |