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CountBasarab Registered user CountBasarab Last page view: 6465 days, 2 hours, 38 minutes and 28 seconds ago. |
I have been reading this forum for years, but this is my first chance to post something new. (At least I have never seen a post on it) We all know that you can get random potions from the fool in exchange for booze. My question is: Are the potions he gives you dependent on the Threat of the dungeon. In my experiece he gives real crap, but it would be simplicity itself to draw him to up the very frightening cave abit to the north and west. This would be an end game theme for a couple of reasons. You would need a real tall stack of booze to make the time in the wilderness well spent, and you would have to be high enough lvl to make the cave truely terrifing. If he DOES give potions based on the threat of the dungeon, I can see you walking in with a couple dozen boozes and walking out with !GA/!CC/!Speed/!QuicklingBlood I have wanted for months to try this myself, but my characters keep dying before I can get that far into the game. (one the the Emp Moloch, one walked around a corner into a gorgen, and one to a fatal game bug) Hell, that's ADOM though. So I decided to put it to the forums. Someone please tell me if my idea works! ~John Eat me. |
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 Armada Registered user Last page view: 1220 days, 10 hours, 45 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
Can you even lead the fool out of town? |
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PeanutGod Registered user Lord of Misery Last page view: 5046 days, 19 hours, 21 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
I didn't think you could? People in terinyo don't step on the outer squares do they? Ladies and Gentleman, take my advice. Pull down your pants, and slide on the ice. |
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CountBasarab Registered user CountBasarab Last page view: 6465 days, 2 hours, 38 minutes and 28 seconds ago. |
Yer... And he resists :s. However it might be possible to lure him off with a monk. Get a humanoid badyguy to attack and then manipulate the badguy with :s until the fool was by an edge. You could also burn a wish for it; that is wish for the fool in some dangerous place. You could also read a half dozen cursed scrolls of danger in the town. (can you write scrolls of danger without incuring too much mana cost?). You also might be able to do it with a wand of monster creation if you got very very lucky. If either the fool or the monster he was fighting grew afraid they could run to a wall. I think that ordering a pet to attack will make him hostile to you, but I'm not 100%. Any other suggestions? For testing purposes burning a wish seems easiest. Can you wish for a fool? Either that or the scrolls of danger which would work for sure. Anyways... I am sure that SOMETHING along these lines in possible. Any thoughts on the topic would be most welcome. ~John Eat me. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4233 days, 22 hours, 37 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
The fool can be confused and led out of town. However, it's pointless, since most potions can be generated in Terinyo already (I've received numerous PoGA and PoCC from him). A few rare ones can't, like quickling blood, but you're so unlikely to receive them by bringing him to the SMC that it's not worth the hassle. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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CountBasarab Registered user CountBasarab Last page view: 6465 days, 2 hours, 38 minutes and 28 seconds ago. |
I ran a bunch of tests with a Merchant. I Went into the SMC and save scummed a couple of wishes with a pool then I took him back to the surface to check what potions can be gotten. I will compile all the data if anyone wants it, but here is the jist: The potions that are generated ARE dependant on the threat so it EXTREMELY unlikely to get anything that is not generated on Threat lvl one. Potions that you can get are: potion of balance potion of beauty potion of blindness potion of booze potion of carrot juice potion of charisma potion of confusion potion of deafness potion of exchange potion of gain attributes potion of healing potion of invisibility potion of learning potion of poison potion of potential beauty potion of potential charisma potion of potential learning potion of visibility However, but read just one uncursed scroll of danger you increase the threat lvl to two and unlock the following potions oil of rust removal potion of cure corruption !! potion of cure poison potion of extra healing ! potion of insight potion of mana ! potion of potential mana potion of potential willpower potion of raw mana potion of stun recovery potion of troll blood potion of water potion of willpower ! There are a bunch of kill to have potions in there. One more will unlock: berzio potion potion of dexterity ! potion of longevity potion of potential dexterity potion of potential strength potion of potential toughness potion of strength ! potion of toughness ! potion of training potion of wonder potion of youth So what you want decides how many you should read After turning in almost 500 booze to this guy at various danger lvls, it seems that after about lvl 3 you get diminishing returns. At lvl 5 you get boost speed. Lvl 15 ultraheal. Lvl 20 Quickling blood. Bottom line: If you have an extra scroll of danger or two and a stack of booze a mile high it is just silly not to use them in this fasion. Eat me. |
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Molach unplugged Unregistered user |
I don't think you can get booze from the drunk. I've never gotten one. And secondly, hmmmmmmmmm You're pushing down the odds of getting PoGA, which in many ways is THE potion you want. Everything in the game is easier with higher stats. Dropping PoGA chance from 5,56% to 3,23 % is not too good. OTOH if stats already are insanely high, then you might need quickling blood and boost speed and good healing potions |
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 Kirbot Registered user BattleHax0r of Devastation Last page view: 5879 days, 6 hours, 49 minutes and 54 seconds ago. |
Very interesting. Thanks, CountBasarab. Molach: "I like to have 200+ hp and over 5 good healin potions when I do [the fire] temple. AND some way of killing the Wyrm" Morio: "Some way of killing the worm is recommended, yes :D" |
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hearter Unregistered user |
i've gotten booze from booze before. and yes, i think just one danger scroll is optimal(for the !oga) |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3892 days, 20 hours, 53 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
there's no need for the fool to step on the outmost line of Terinyo (on which I don't think he will step), he can probably be lead out if the positions are like this: ... <- step here to exit terinyo .@. <- the last line you can step on t.. "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5470 days, 14 hours, 3 minutes and 23 seconds ago. |
I have gotten !longetivety at Terinyo in 1.0.1 (havent actually played for a while so I don't know if 1.0.2 is out :P) "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom |