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Brotherfoerst Unregistered user |
Can artifacts be generated in infinite dungeons? How can phase daggers be obtained? What is a good place to gain exp... I´ve only managed to get to level 30, I have the orbs, but I doubt my chances in the bottom of dwarven caves |
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HicPotboy Registered user Web-dude Last page view: 7311 days, 4 hours, 31 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
1.) Can artifacts be generated in the ID? Answer: No, they cannot be generated in the ID, and neither can shops or altars. I'm not sure about forges, though. 2.) How can phase daggers be obtained? Answer: You just find them lying around; I found one in the casino, but that's the only one I found in alot of weapons. 3.) What is a good place to gain exp.? Answer: I don't know this one either; I was at level 28 when I hit floor 46 of the CoC. Found two greater monster vaults on two floors; 1st was an undead one, with plenty of emperor lichs. I went to lvl. 34 while fighting those monsters, and there was still over 200 monsters to kill. I would suspect that the Minotaur Maze would be good for experience, though. --- Hicpotboy ------ Hicpotboy --------- Less twitch, more mental itch - saying by me. |
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Amanda Sedai Registered user Last page view: 7923 days, 1 hour, 43 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
Depends on your level of experience. In the beginning, the wilderness is good. (the puppy cave is also nice, because the monsters are difficult compared to other beginning spots and you're guaranteed an ant colony.) Once you're ready to go on to more difficult things, the bug temple and Darkforge are great places. (be careful with Darkforge, though. The golems are very difficult and the area's corruption rate is very high. On the other hand, you get a vault of weapons, a vault of armor, a small money vault, and some pools if you like scumming). The Arena is cool because you earn money while leveling up. During the last part of the game, D:50 is great if your character hasn't reached the highest level yet. (I only got there once, as a troll, and because trolls take so long to level up I was only around level 20-something. By the time I'd closed the gate I'd gained about 10 levels.) -Amanda Sedai, a save-scumming newbie. (Hey, at least I saved that little girl's dog. Gimme some credit... ;-)) |
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Brotherforest Registered user Saviour of Trees Last page view: 8126 days, 13 hours, 17 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
I'd certainly like to battle in the lower levels, but I would probably need to find shop specialised in ?oCR ;)- , I'm gonna try the dwarven halls, and another option in the darkforges pools, crossing fingers and hoping to get a wish to obtain RoDS, getting to small cave and wishing for greater molochs. I have speed 200+ and a phase dagger so that could work. Halaa puuta |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5765 days, 11 hours, 56 minutes and 8 seconds ago. |
Sadly you can't wish for RoDS - more generally, there is no way to wish for more wishes, or even to wish for a way of deferring a wish until you need it. Have you been to the blue dragon caves? I gained lots of levels in there the one time I got that far. Warning: it could be dangerous if you're not shock resistant. Does everyone know the "trick" for winning the game without too much combat on D:50? Spoiler Magic map the level, head for the levers (you can even teleport, but the hordes of monsters get in the way), and after pulling each lever, destroy it with a wand of destruction. When you've done that, teleport to the up staircase and leave. |
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Brotherforest Registered user Saviour of Trees Last page view: 8126 days, 13 hours, 17 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
You can't... :(- I was in there,got blue dragon scalemail from first dragon, and BoT from an ettin Halaa puuta |
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Dougy Registered user What is the deal with cards? Last page view: 5829 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Actually artifacts can be generated in the ID, however you can only get them by pick pocketing. And certain spells. I pickpocked whirlwind once on ID:2. Phase daggers are kindof obsolete these days - any weapon of penetration is just as good. They're also rare so wishes would probably be your best bet. Experiance is really hard to gain in the middle game. Balors are brilliant for experiance - if you find one of those kill it. Kill as *many* cats as possible, if your past day 90 scum mountains for them. The cat lord is vunerable to wands of death - that'll give you about 2-3 levels. Wear the crown of science and cruise the wilderness for black unicorns and air elementals. Black unicorns corpses can be traded for PoCC. However the big room and PC:5 are good leveling levels because of their high rate of monster generation. Good weapon training too. The danger level will increase fast so that the monsters will start giving better exp. I once had a red dragon load in PC:5. Level hop the infinite dungeon between levels 8 and 9. That has a semi-high monster generation. (if your like me and want to keep your charactors safe) DougyDougy - Dougy - DougyDougy |
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Duke Ravage Registered user Gravebane Zombie Last page view: 5662 days, 18 hours, 24 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
sometimes early on you can get trapped on VD:1 hunting for the secret door for 4 (game) days. happened to me, and the place had a monstrous creature generation rate, and most of them were some flavor of goblin. got to ~lvl 5 on that level alone. ivan.sourceforge.net |
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leapfrog314 Registered user Last page view: 8120 days, 4 hours, 29 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
How about Yan Can Gerbil? Or Supergerbil? |
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Crimson King Registered user Last page view: 6320 days, 20 hours, 59 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
Crimson Gerbil? Joka vitsaa säästää, saa kaatumataudin |
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adomer2 Registered user Last page view: 8038 days, 6 hours, 47 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
once i meleed eternal gaurdians for experience after i'd gone to the bug temple too soon. wishing for emperor moloch is a great way to gain experience. but i think the bottom line is that if you want experience, go kill a lot of shit. the difference between mastery and grand mastery can be over 5000 monsters. just kill everything. |
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Jan Erik Administrator Last page view: 10 hours, 3 minutes and 58 seconds ago. |
You won't get surges of power in the ID, but artefacts CAN be generated in the "drops" from powerfull monsters (Dragons and such) even in the ID, especialy on the deep levels with a high danger level... All in all it's not the best place to go artefact hunting though. Jan Erik Mydland HoF admin |
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Dougy Registered user What is the deal with cards? Last page view: 5829 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Really? I never knew that... makes the ID look a little more interesting. I've got a habit of going after the sceptre of chaos just because nobody else does. DougyDougy - Dougy - DougyDougy |
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Tha Messiah Registered user Angel of Death Last page view: 7777 days, 4 hours, 23 minutes and 7 seconds ago. |
Yeah monsters do occasionly drop artifacts. But as Jan said it really isnt worth it. But powerfun non artifact items are quite common in the ID.I've AoLS many times in there. THE MESSIAH,I'm here now,Worship me. |
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Dougy Registered user What is the deal with cards? Last page view: 5829 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
I got a GoGS once at a low level in there, was quite pleased. DougyDougy - Dougy - DougyDougy |
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Brotherforest Registered user Saviour of Trees Last page view: 8126 days, 13 hours, 17 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
Have you people played thieves? after lvl32? is it worth it? Halaa puuta |
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Duke Ravage Registered user Gravebane Zombie Last page view: 5662 days, 18 hours, 24 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
crimison gerbil. sounds good. *g* i'll add it to the list. ivan.sourceforge.net |
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Dougy Registered user What is the deal with cards? Last page view: 5829 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Re: lvl32 class ability for thieves By this stage in the game most PCs are crowned. And getting crowned chaotic isn't much fun. Since most PC's don't lose their crowned status, using pick pockets effectively isn't too easy. I tested it's effectiveness around the higher levels of the CoC and it's not too bad (lev 100 pick pocket). The best things i got was a potion of ultra healing and a ring of teleport control. Lots of scrolls of identify came out too. However large quantites of gold seems to be the most common thing to pick (i got 800 gold in one pick pocket). I didn't test this for too long so there'd no doubt be better items waiting to be pick pocketed. DougyDougy - Dougy - DougyDougy |
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Brotherforest Registered user Saviour of Trees Last page view: 8126 days, 13 hours, 17 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
...manic gerbil...buffy the gerbilslayer...gerbil cola, mocha and latte...adolf gerbil...toothfairy gerbil...rude gerbil...groucho gerbil...microsoft(tm) gerbil Halaa puuta |
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Dougy Registered user What is the deal with cards? Last page view: 5829 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Gerbil of giant slaying DougyDougy - Dougy - DougyDougy |
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Vallak Registered user The Nightmare Elf Last page view: 8069 days, 21 hours and 9 seconds ago. |
>>>>Gerbil of giant slaying >>>>--- >>>>Adomer from Australia. >>>>Dougy ROTFLMFAO! "But then I sigh, and with a piece of scripture, Tell them that God bids us do good for evil. And thus I clothe my naked villainy With odd old ends stolen forth of holy writ, And seem I a saint, when most I play the Devil." -William Shakespeare, King Richard III |
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Tha Messiah Registered user Angel of Death Last page view: 7777 days, 4 hours, 23 minutes and 7 seconds ago. |
I dont see anything to laughbout. mabye it cos I'm too THE MESSIAH,I'm here now,Worship me. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/30/2002 at 15:06 (GMT -5) by Tha Messiah] |
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Tha Messiah Registered user Angel of Death Last page view: 7777 days, 4 hours, 23 minutes and 7 seconds ago. |
Or come to thing bout it mabye I'm just too On second thoughts I'm drunk and sleepy THE MESSIAH,I'm here now,Worship me. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/30/2002 at 15:10 (GMT -5) by Tha Messiah] |
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Andor Drakon Registered user uummm... ElDeR cHaOs GoD? Last page view: 7300 days, 11 hours, 20 minutes and 32 seconds ago. |
Writhing gerbil of primal chaos ChAoS iS cOmInG! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
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loser Unregistered user |
maybe i've been lucky, but i've found about 4 phase daggers and i'm on D:45... you should smith phase daggers, they use common iron and its one of the few ways to improve damage... i havent had problems with experience, i equip rings of mental stability +2 Le and i am lvl 42 at D:45... havent even started training yet... and i tot that artifacts can be generated anywhere? |
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trojan Unregistered user |
I have seen artifacts being sold at lawenil... however you spell it. anyways... |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5664 days, 1 hour, 15 minutes and 8 seconds ago. |
Artifacts can be generated anywhere but the infinite dungeon(though if you're lucky you can pickpocket artifacts off of monsters there). Usually get a message of a 'surge of power' when entering a level if an artifact is lying somewhere on the level. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |