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F50
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5475 days, 23 hours, 43 minutes and 5 seconds ago.
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 00:31 (GMT -5)

I am permanently invisible. How am I supposed to become chaotic if I can't drag any farmers/children out of terrinyo? Alas, for visbillity! Perhaps I should try some of the remaining pools (primarily in the unremarkable dungeon)... I also have a RoDS, but I think I need to save that wish.
"If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation.
AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)"

-Maelstrom

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/25/2007 at 00:32 (GMT -5) by F50]
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gut
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4897 days, 10 hours, 34 minutes and 33 seconds ago.
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 00:54 (GMT -5)

Killing your useless ratling traders
should get you to CN. Maybe killing
beggars in Lawenilothehl.




Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong!
Jhonka
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5356 days, 8 hours, 17 minutes and 21 seconds ago.
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 05:03 (GMT -5)

pickpocketing a non hostile. Once pickpocketed, the message "you have already cleaned -foo-" is generated and alignment drops. This can be repeated, useful for getting CN for ratling quest and NL for dwarven mystic.
J.
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 10:39 (GMT -5)

I usually kill beggars.
If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away.

Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad."
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Ekaterin
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 10:45 (GMT -5)

If you're after Avatar of Balance or Ultimate Chaos God, killing the white unicorn is a handy way to become extremely chaotic. Not so advisable for aspiring Avatars of Order who may want to cleanse themselves before going through the chaos gate.
F50
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 11:28 (GMT -5)

Pickpocketing is a good idea, except that I already killed Yergius... bye bye ratlings!
"If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation.
AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)"

-Maelstrom
F50
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 19:20 (GMT -5)

GAH! There is no farmer in the HMV! should I try creating monsters there (got lots of wands of monster creation) to see if one is a farmer? I cannot lead farmers out of the HMV, do not have any scrolls of familiar summoning (to kill farmers in terrinyo by pets, even though I have three farmers trapped on the edge as I type), and I would prefer not to give all of my gold (25000) to buy the clay golem. Could I lure some chaotic monster (like the mad doctor, a dark sage, or something) to terrinyo to kill farmers? I would also prefer not to expend my wish especially since I may need it to deal with the ToEF appropriately.


... ... HELP! ...
"If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation.
AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)"

-Maelstrom

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/25/2007 at 19:21 (GMT -5) by F50]
noob
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 20:03 (GMT -5)

!visibility ?

try killing stuff in the HMV - there could still be one generated

also you could make single f in TTown hostile (ventriloquism? stunray?) - they will kill each other then
Darren Grey
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 20:22 (GMT -5)

If you only have 25k to your name then I really wonder why you're so desperate to get a farmer corpse right now. It's nice to complete Gaab'Baay's quests early, but in no way necessary.

Still, you do have the option of killing as many people as possible in HMV and eventually a farmer will spawn there.
Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse."
F50
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5475 days, 23 hours, 43 minutes and 5 seconds ago.
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 21:51 (GMT -5)

The reason I want to complete Gaab'Baay's quests early is so I can get crowned. While I am chaotic, I have no access to my deity (I can only heal ~40 hp with blessed Spensweed). I don't feel very threatened by the immediate danger level, but I am not comfortable enough to move on past the water temple. I will see if I have a wand of stunning to stun one of the farmers on the edge of the terrinyo. Otherwise, its time to clear out the HMV (and possibly use a few monster creation charges to see how that works since I won't use those wands in any other way)

EDIT: PROBLEM SOLVED BY ACCIDENT!

Here's how:

First I made the farmers that I had trapped on the edge of terrinyo angry by trying to stun them. Then I accidentally ran into them and slew them each in one hit. I received no repercussions from the townsfolk.

Now to get lawful and get crowned!
"If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation.
AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)"

-Maelstrom

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/25/2007 at 23:58 (GMT -5) by F50]
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gut
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4897 days, 10 hours, 34 minutes and 33 seconds ago.
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 at 02:17 (GMT -5)

Pretty lucky with the farmers.
I thought I remembered, long ago,
usings pickpocket skill at lv 1
on a farmer, in order to make him
angry at me, and hit me first. I
could then slay him and not make
the town hostile. If I remember
correctly, it even worked on shop-
keepers. That was in ADOM 1.0.0
though, and I wasn't sure it would
still work, so I didn't mention it.

WoMC can be useful to create human...
er monster shields. Running through
a narrow corridor from a powerful
monster can be dangerous. If you
create a monster shield between your-
self and said monster, they will not
shoot missiles or bolt spells at you.
Sometimes, they will swap places with
them to melee with you though.






Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong!
J.
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5664 days, 3 hours, 11 minutes and 57 seconds ago.
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 at 13:48 (GMT -5)

I'm pretty sure that a failed pickpocketing attempt will make the whole town hostile. Wouldn't try that :)
If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away.

Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad."
Jhonka
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5356 days, 8 hours, 17 minutes and 21 seconds ago.
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 at 14:26 (GMT -5)

for some reason using the acid glob on farmer, with no other monsters on sight, will not make the people unhappy with you. This applies to childs, goodwives dwarves etc.
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gut
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4897 days, 10 hours, 34 minutes and 33 seconds ago.
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 at 21:22 (GMT -5)

I did a few tests concerning pickpocketing
in terinyo, I used about 15 lvl 1 trollish
healers. For all tests pickpocketing skill
was at 1.The results were pretty confusing.
Any time I pickpocketed a child or goodwife,
an alarm gong was rung, thus a hostile town.


Pickpocketing farmers was much less consistant
though. If I applied the skill as soon as I
entered the town, meaning in the far upper
left hand corner of the map, it was rare for
any of the townsfolk to become hostile, usualy
only those in the line of sight. The funny
thing about this, is that after angering the
farmers to hit me first, I could then lead
them to any place in Terinyo and kill them
freely. Even killing them in front of Rynt
and the sheriff didn't bother anybody.

Once I tried pickpocketing a farmer while in
Rynt's hut, Rynt didn't become hostile, but
upon leaving the hut the druid killed me.
The only conclusion I can draw, is don't
pickpocket in Terinyo, unless you realy know
what your doing.

Another funny thing regarding hostile terinyo
folk. I just atempted to chop down a tree in
the druids line of sight, he shouted at me to
stop. When I chose not to stop, he became
hostile, and began attaking me, he did not
however leave the region of the water. No other
townsfolk became hostile, even after I chose to
kill him!
Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong!


[Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/27/2007 at 00:06 (GMT -5) by gut]
F50
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 00:50 (GMT -5)

wow, lol. this information would definitely help in the case of a terrinyo-destroying challenge.
"If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation.
AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)"

-Maelstrom

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