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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4888 days, 4 hours, 28 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
Back when I was first playing ADOM, before I got spoiled, I found that noticing the prices that shopkeepers offered for items, would give me hints as to what they were worth. Like if an item was cursed, or just realy bad, you usualy get a bad price (not always though). If on the other hand, Waldenbrook made an offer of say, a few 1000 gp's for a pair of 'worn boots', that was an indication that some testing should be done. In fact I still do this for ID purposes if I don't find some SoI quickly. I had some old save files (ADOM 1.0.0), of a few dark elven fighters with some artifacts, so I loaded them up, and recorded the prices I got for them at the black market. I post this mainly for fun , on some items I couldn't agree more, but on some I just say "Huh!"
helmets armor
Crown of S 942 AMW 7070
Crown of L 3770 Natures C 7283
Crown of C 5892
shields gauntlet
Rolf S 7070 Elem G 5303
Protector 8838 Iron F 3535
cloaks bracers
Cloak of O 10253 BoW 11313
necklaces 1HW
Ankh 1767 Executor 31820
Preserver 10253 Golden g 1295
Medal of C 2828 Big p 9333
Purifier 14850
2hw Emerald d 4265
Vanqu 23335 Needle 18668
RCT 25456 Sting 18668
Staff of AM 23335 Rolfs c 10606
Axe of ME 11125 Hammer h 29700
Hammer of G 14637 Scep of C 7070
Wyrml 10606
Soaker 23335 tool
TotRR 212142 si 165
mssl ring
Elf lb 14142 RoTHK 2475
Whirlw 4242 RotMC 8838
Thndrst 122 RoI 8838
Notice emerald dagger 4265 gp! Huh! Whirlwind gets almost as much! Thunderstroke is a bit high though :) I gained new appreciation for Hammerhead, it rivals mighty Executor. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4230 days, 2 hours, 11 minutes and 24 seconds ago. |
Emerald dagger is indeed surprisingly low, as is the ankh. And RotMC the same price as RoI? Really now... Staff of the Archmagi on the other hand is rated overly high (same as Vanquisher? pfft...), as is Soaker (which most prefer to name Sucker). You say this list is compiled with different characters? Though you've kept their race the same their charismas will be different, and more importantly the race of the shopkeeper can make prices vary wildly (guidebook has the exact comparisons). Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4888 days, 4 hours, 28 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
Yeah, I knew about the charisma and race effect, so I used the Ancient Mummy Wrapping as a reference point. The price of the AMW varied by only a few hundred for all characters. I know it's not exact, and I suspect that prices probably changed a bit for ADOM 1.1.1. I should also point out that I wasn't a member or head of the thives guild, for any of the PC's, so prices would surely be much higher at another shop. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Nightmare Registered user Soul Calibur 2 Last page view: 4589 days, 16 hours, 16 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
were all the items uncursed? "As for me, I feel priveleged to be among the only species able to make scientific inquiries." -unknown "Be sure to keep your distance if you don't have resistance." -DG |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4888 days, 4 hours, 28 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
All were blessed. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4059 days, 2 hours, 53 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
The low price for the ankh isn't that surprising - it doesn't do a lot, if you think about it. And Ring of the Master Cat compared to Ring of Immunity... Their benefits are entirely different from each other, so it's hard to compare. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5466 days, 17 hours, 36 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
The Ankh does do a lot. Luck is indispensable (though lesser vaults are nice via javelin of doom since you can get rid of that easily), and two PV AND two DV is worth an amulet of defense/protection as well. The Ankh may not be the only amulet you would wear, but that is because there is some situations where failure to wear a certain kind of amulet could result in death. RotMC is soooooo much better than the RotMC. Elemental immunity only means a lot in the ToEF. Other immunites can often be attained if they are needed by swapping in the right equipment (like ring of elemental mastery or blue dragon scale mail). Whereas the RotMC grants fate smiles, speed, critical hits to your weaponry becomes more likely, and something else that I'm missing (Dx increase?). "I gained new respect for Hammerhead..." Infinite digging is a good thing. But damage and slaying powers should count for a bit more, lol "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom [Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/28/2007 at 21:00 (GMT -5) by F50] |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4059 days, 2 hours, 53 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
Immunities are pretty much unnecessary anyway, considering every character usually has natural resistance plus at least elemental gauntlets... You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4230 days, 2 hours, 11 minutes and 24 seconds ago. |
The ankh's [+2, +2] is fairly pathetic, but it gives a lot of luck. Still, the main reason people like it is because it's far better than most amulets. However, if I get Preserver in a game then I will wear it without a moment's thought - the ankh in no way compares to it. RoI is probably rated highly because 4 immunities is a lot more than most artifacts give, and the [+5, +5] is nice. But the giant Dex bonus and other useful statuses from the kitty ring are usually much more preferable, and most players really do rip their hair out trying to get this marvellous thing. If I get RoI from a precrowning I'll usually think meh - there's a lot nicer things you can get. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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F50 Registered user Last page view: 5466 days, 17 hours, 36 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
In my current game, I avoided killing all cats until just before the ToEF...And then I walked around in the dark. "If the bread weights that much in the draklor chain, then it's no wonder so many die of starvation. AND - what kind of IRON RATION weights as much as an iron shield?! A dinner for four, oven included? ;)" -Maelstrom [Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/29/2007 at 13:23 (GMT -5) by F50] |