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Doalag Registered user Last page view: 5843 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
I'm at the beginning of the game, only saved puppy and was trying the elder quest at level 6/7 of the cave. Alas now I have emptied the food shop, don't have any food or just one iron food, don't have much gold to pay stupid prices of the thieve shop for some food. Is my game dead? Can't I force a restock of the food shop? Pray god to get some food? Anything? I don't have wilderness, can cook but doesn't have the tools. |
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Doalag Registered user Last page view: 5843 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Well eventually it seems I found a solution, a little boring but at least I'll probably survive. The little girl seems to have an infinite stock of candies so I'll stock enough of them to continue the game. :-) |
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Doalag Registered user Last page view: 5843 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Well... died of starvation in a food shop... Can I say sometimes I hate this game? |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4232 days, 20 hours, 54 minutes and 24 seconds ago. |
Very rare to do this, but it can happen. Munxip will restock after a while, but it can be a long time. Still, normally you can collect enough food in the early game dungeons for it not to be an issue. Why didn't you just hunt in the puppy cave cavern or somewhere else for rations and corpses? Normally by the time Munxip would run out of food you'd have already advanced beyond the early dungeons and onto the Caverns of Chaos, where you can soon find cooked lizards as a great source of food. Perhaps in future you should not let your characters hang around the early areas too much. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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noob Registered user Last page view: 5922 days, 6 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
Why didn't you just eat your pets? ;) |
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Doalag Registered user Last page view: 5843 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Yep I tried eat all people of the village then all pets but I just got few bones, the logic isn't clear, I killed ton of stuff and couldn't get anything from it to eat and avoid starvation? Stupid. I didn't let this character hung around, it's the reverse I never played that fast the beginning, puppy dungeon then the cave village. The point is I never collected so few stuff to eat so gradually eat merchant stock. I also admit the lack of food preservation was a pain I didn't manage that well. I tried eat any stuff asap after take it but sometimes forget do it and 3 steps after lost it. |
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EmptyOne Registered user Last page view: 5403 days, 21 hours, 51 minutes and 8 seconds ago. |
When Munxip gets low on food, walk over to the CoC, head down to the arena and buy from one of the ratlings. Lizards are the best thing to buy. |
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Doalag Registered user Last page view: 5843 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Yes that's what I should have anticipate and done. In fact I think this will even be my plan for my next character. 1 puppy, 2 cookies, 3 small cave, 4 village cave. I took back a savegame when I still have few foods, not enough to go to the arena level but I attempt the Darren suggestion to use Puppy caves. It's true that at level 5 there's a steady flow of monsters. But currently if I didn't die yet I haven't either succeed to build a food stock. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/31/2008 at 14:45 (GMT -5) by Doalag] |
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Doalag Registered user Last page view: 5843 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
The point is that this char is a dwarf with no food preservation skill and no tool for cooking, a deadly combination, deadly for the char itself. The inability to eat orc except when starved plus no ability to keep any corpse is just killing. |
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Doalag Registered user Last page view: 5843 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Ok so here how it finished. I tried apply the Darren suggestion. It didn't worked in order to make a food stock, but I get few more money by wandering puppy cave level 5, plus many through a large area unexplored of level 6. At this point I decided that with the money, despite high price of bandit shop, I could buy enough food here to travel to cookies paradise. At village I stocked bounties guarded by a pet (thanks I didn't follow noob advice to eat them) and before going to bandit shop I try gave a look at village shop... full of foods, saved! I'll be able to prepare carefully cookies expedition, I don't think I'll have more food problems in this game, thanks all for the advices, that game put me in a dark humor and you help save me from it! :-D I was wondering why in all recent games I had food problems even if not critical, all my last games was with dwarf, that's certainly the point. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/31/2008 at 17:00 (GMT -5) by Doalag] |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5135 days, 2 hours, 48 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
Food preservation also makes more corpses appear, you know. Dwarves are so tough, you might as well head right over to the Main-cavern, and look for some helpful ratlings to buy food from... |
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Nightmare Registered user Soul Calibur 2 Last page view: 4592 days, 10 hours, 59 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
I just sell lots of junk to the black market in Lawenilothel, that's usually good for a few hundred gold if I'm desperate for ration money. I have never, in about 500+ games, had Munxips food shop run out. If I knew it were about to, I'd grab up the last remaining rations and head to the COC for cooked lizards, rather than waiting for the shop to restock. "As for me, I feel priveleged to be among the only species able to make scientific inquiries." -unknown "Be sure to keep your distance if you don't have resistance." -DG |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4890 days, 23 hours, 11 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
Another suggestion for gathering food safely in the early game, is to use the infinite dungeon. It's the tan asterisk, a bit below the village dungeon. Just repeatedly climb the staircase between levels one and two, and you will generate plenty of food. While your in the dungeon, eat the heavy stuff, like large and iron rations. Save the light food (like melons, dwarven sausages, fresh meat and so on), for later. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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vogonpoet Registered user Last page view: 4950 days, 4 hours, 25 minutes and 8 seconds ago. |
I've had games in the past when I had an early altar near Terinyo in at not quite dangerous enough dungeoun and I tried for a precrown. Sacking all the monsters means no food droops, then I would empty Munxips shop fairly quickly. Sometimes waiting for it to re-stock can be a bit tense if your are feeling hungry, but as last resort, as gut says, the ID is full of flavour. These days, if my PC starts off reasonably deadly (eg a high Le Ma wizard, or a high St To fighter guy, or any archer), I have found skipping all of Terinyo, swimming the river, and heading straight for the Arena actually has a certain simplistic charm about it. I would love to close the gate before Day 90 one day, rather than Year 3 <sigh>. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 2/1/2008 at 02:45 (GMT -5) by vogonpoet] |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4061 days, 21 hours, 36 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
You can do that in a normal game, if you don't scum too much, hang about in the wilderness too much and find seven leagues relatively early. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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vogonpoet Registered user Last page view: 4950 days, 4 hours, 25 minutes and 8 seconds ago. |
I have troubles in the mid game I guess - when everything works well, I get my healing/herbalism, pickpockets and detect traps, kill Kranach, kill Hotyz, and probably find a dead puppy, and leave Terinyo before Day 10. Which feels like an ok pace. Getting ready for the Tower takes me ages though. And I don't normally find 7LBs until sometime after Griff, Skeletal King, and Darkforge dealt with. |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4061 days, 21 hours, 36 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
What do you do to get ready for the tower? You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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vogonpoet Registered user Last page view: 4950 days, 4 hours, 25 minutes and 8 seconds ago. |
Well search for some fire resistances obviously, get my HP above 200, find a second fireproof blanket, find some way of slaying worm. Become hard as nails. I guess its entirely possible my tower paranoia is a problem - I like to be up around level 23-25 by the time I take on the tower, unless a Troll. I also tend to want the water orb before taking on the tower, which means saving the damn sage. At what point in a game should I give up on him anyway? I tend to find day 90 passing before I find my AoLS. Stupid pools. |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4061 days, 21 hours, 36 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
Well, that all sounds reasonable to me! As long as I have the resistances and the HP and the way of dealing with the wyrm, I don't care about level, though. I usually give up on the sage once I've nearly played through all the other dungeons, cleared all pools in Darkforge or elsewhere and checked out the Water Dragon's loot. If I'm not lucky enough to have gotten a wish or an AoLS at that point, I just know there's a wand of wishing waiting for me on D:17. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4890 days, 23 hours, 11 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
I usually give up on the sage as soon as I set eyes on him! I'm sure Khelly hates to see me coming... "NO, stay away! Don't chat with me you moron! I can keep on living for months on these stairs, as long as you don't chat with me! Go away! The water orb isn't that great anyway. 10 points of willpower for my life!? How cruel are you!? C'mon just go look for the necklace a little while eh? I'll give you a nice spellbook of teleport, I'll give you an eternium dagger. I'll give anything! Just STAY AWAY! NOOOOOO!" Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4061 days, 21 hours, 36 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
That fool should've mentioned the six scrolls of chaos resistance, eh? You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Nightmare Registered user Soul Calibur 2 Last page view: 4592 days, 10 hours, 59 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
Blessed, no less. Maybe if he used them he wouldn't have been in that predicament. I always wonder. I hear from people who've attacked him in Terinyo after saving him, that he is very powerful. So what kind of monster brought him to within an inch of his life? It can't have been those pathetic chaos servants. "As for me, I feel priveleged to be among the only species able to make scientific inquiries." -unknown "Be sure to keep your distance if you don't have resistance." -DG |
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SirMason Registered user Paladin of the Shining Citadel Last page view: 4738 days, 16 hours, 25 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
Easy. He stepped on an explosion trap and spent the majority of his life force killing off a disgruntled companion. You pick up the Wand of Do Nothing. 'z'... Nothing happens. 't'... The Wand of Do Nothing misses the kestral. Come on, it's a Wand of Do Nothing! |
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Lost_one Registered user unregistered user Last page view: 5914 days, 20 hours, 58 minutes and 4 seconds ago. |
and THAT is the reason why I gave up taming stuff in the claw bug temple... "I have opinions -STRONG opinions- that sometimes, I don't agree with" ---Prez. George W. Bush |
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Caladriel Registered user ReGiStErEd UsEr Last page view: 4690 days, 15 hours, 16 minutes and 4 seconds ago. |
Getting back to food: When I first arrive in Terinyo, I always pile all the shop's food into one corner. I do not know if this encourages restocking, but everytime I return, more food has arrived (which I then pile in the corner again) I have never run out. |
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Doalag Registered user Last page view: 5843 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Interesting, I'll try that at my new game, there's no guaranty that this work as I had put the shop to a very low stock then to zero and didn't get a restock until some time, but it could rise the chance to get a restock. One point that I didn't applied always when I should, it was to eat immediately any corpse I can if not already satiated. About food preservation, even without the skill, I won't be surprised if a char improves this as time and experience pass. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 2/5/2008 at 14:12 (GMT -5) by Doalag] |