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Molach
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 19:17 (GMT -5)

I was thinking mabye someone wanted to enter darkforge to "check" it out... or even gremlin cave. Or even clearing the dwarven graveyard (for the elemental gauntlets). But not by accident, no.

It is possible to do the pyramid and then get a precrown at level ...20? That will be seriously boring. If I was in that position, I would resign myself to harvesting herbs in a non-pacified big room. All the way to 20. Yay. But then 10 players would have to spend their turns doing that. NBL.

Exp gained by live-saccing is not much, should be easy to keep exp gain low. That is easier when at a L altar, though. Also at N altars you need to be able to change align before praying, but that's not too hard either.

And who knows whether next consul will even bother to precrown? We will only get the stupid tome of Alosesuckus anyway.
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 20:20 (GMT -5)

I hate precrowning. I honestly haven't even tried
it in a looooong time. I would prefer to just
get on with the game.
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 20:21 (GMT -5)

I still want to know what happend to my mithril chain mail! We're wearing a crappy green leather armor right now!

I've never been the type for a precrown myself. I say we do the thrundarr quests first in any case, go the animated forest route in the process, and then enter the pyramid as soon as we are in danger of hitting 17.
You drop the golden ball.
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Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?"
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Darren Grey
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 21:40 (GMT -5)

I think it's a bit late to bother with a precrown now - better to just get on with the game. To make it feasible we'd have to convert to L, and the amount of time needed to simply recover piety is ridiculous. There's a good chance we'd find a game-winning item, but there's also a good chance we'd get something useless. Hopefully DarkForge will bag us some nice rewards in future.

I think we really should get Detect Traps soon though. Otherwise pyramid could be quite a pain. It's easy to train detect traps in VDDL since you can figure out where all the teleport traps will be.

Also, have we gone to the HMV yet? We have a scroll of magic mapping which can be blessed, numerous invis potions and a method of teleportation. Obviously pyramid is going to take priority with the impending level limit, but there's usually lots of goodies to be found in the UD when we have the chance.
Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse."

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/13/2008 at 22:39 (GMT -5) by Darren Grey]
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 22:33 (GMT -5)

The mithril chain mail was nowhere to be seen when I started playing, and personally I prefer 0,2 -acid to -1,3. I usually get a prewcrown on most of my characters at level 8, and if im going for a normal ending, a crown too. It doesn't take much time in game, or irl. I would be very surprised if this char got precrowned.
Darren Grey
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 22:42 (GMT -5)

I've just noticed - we've been through a full round of people and not died. That's pretty darned good in my books. We're not terribly far into the game, but we've kept the little girl in a decent state and she's bound to get much better with some good eq and more herb training.
Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse."
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 23:42 (GMT -5)

> The mithril chain mail was nowhere to be seen
> when I started playing, and personally I prefer
> 0,2 -acid to -1,3

I think Silfir means the +5 cursed mail.

I am also encouraged by the progress. Rhea gets
better with every turn.

EDIT: I just saw Soirana's screenshot. An eternium
two-handed sword of penetration! WooHoo!!
I think I just had an ADOMgasm.
Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong!


[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/13/2008 at 23:48 (GMT -5) by gut]
Narcolepcy
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 00:26 (GMT -5)

I know what armour he was refering to. The second part merely meant that our crappy armour was the least crappy of the crappy armours in our possesion, that is full of crap.
Darren Grey
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 01:16 (GMT -5)

Well that is a sword and a half. But as Soirana says, it could easily be our bane. That battle axe of penetration is good enough for now, with the adamantium spear as an additional option. Both the two-handed sword and Wyrmlance could have their uses in the Tower... Cloak of invis will help with transversing the SMC.

By the way, we seem to be carrying quite a lot of junk around without our strength getting trained... Perhaps its best to dump it and rely on future ogre corpses for a potential strength boost?
Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse."
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 02:30 (GMT -5)

I'm certainly in favor of putting the junk to
the side. That's exactly what I did upon loading
the file. It will sell for a nice chunk of gold,
I just didn't want to sell it just now. We can
pick it up on the way back to dwarftown. The
ogre corpses aren't far away really, and our
weapons are so out of this world, that we wouldn't
notice a big difference in damage anyway.

I just realized, we have 3 artifacts, a cloak of
invisibility, and a crown of regeneration. Food
situation might become interesting.

EDIT:
I forgot to dig up the Sword of Nonnak.

Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong!


[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/14/2008 at 02:41 (GMT -5) by gut]
Darren Grey
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 03:32 (GMT -5)

Damn, wish I'd noticed your Nonnak note earlier. Oh well, someone can recover it later. It's not that great anyway for non-spellcasters (though we are trained in swords, and the cold and death ray resistance can have their uses).

I must say I was surprised at how easily monsters were disposed of in the SMC when they got in the way. I was worried I'd have to use the scroll or wand of teleportation if I got myself in a sticky situation. I didn't push my luck with the annis hag though...
Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse."

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/14/2008 at 03:35 (GMT -5) by Darren Grey]
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 03:35 (GMT -5)

Good news about that shield, we can get marks
again! The fact that it's cursed is not bad at all.
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Molach
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 03:51 (GMT -5)

Nonnak is of course worth the dig, both as potential willpower source, death resistance source or just cash. But it looks like you did not dig up any undead graves either? So someone can do it then.

Still love how that toughness is only 14, after finding infinite supply of morgia on level before big room. My usual hunter-gatherer playstyle would probably have seen me at toughness 24 before doing anything more. Cool.

At next altar it might help to offer up the eternium sword of penetration as sacrifice to the RNG gods, to preserve our character in the face of marvellous good fortune. Three penetrating weapons found so far...I'm lucky to find a single one at this point of the game.

Weapon skills - Getting from 9 to 10 skill is about the same number of marks as 0 to 8. I'd rather have one 9 and one 8 than just a 10. Flexibility wise. Even though two-handed combat skill gets a massive damage bonus.
Darren Grey
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 04:24 (GMT -5)

Uh, gut, what happened to Wyrmlance...? Stashed somewhere? On a general note, have we got a few stashes around? It might be tricky keeping track of them all between swaps. Also which dungeon levels haven't been fully explored? Above DarkForge and the dusty dungeon are still unfinished by the looks of things (though the former is presently quite dangerous).
Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse."
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 04:35 (GMT -5)

I can't believe we found another penetrating weapon.
How can we possibly resist using that baby? Because our toughness still sucks - I for one completely forgot to use any herbs during my turns, I got all distracted by the rotting blinkies.

This game has proven interestingly unfocused.

So we still have stuff stashed in the DDL?

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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 05:08 (GMT -5)

It would be nice if we had a list of all the stashes... which ones can you remember?

And my chain mail had +7 PV, thank you very much. Well, it's obsolete now anyway.
You drop the golden ball.
You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west.
Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?"
Which direction? (123456789) 4
Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated.
You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd!

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/14/2008 at 05:11 (GMT -5) by Silfir]
Darren Grey
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 05:57 (GMT -5)

As predicted, the game has been quite schizophrenic :) All of us are in some way critical of others' playing styles, and we've all said we'd do certain things differently. It's fun though, albeit hard to keep track of things.

Looking carefully through things I've made this list:

Stashes:
- PC4 by altar? (unlikely anything valuable)
- D6 above big room?
- junk droped in big room itself?
- Dwarftown above shop (spellbooks - blocked by doors)
- D8 stairs (above Dwarftown) - 30k gold and some valuables
- DDL? (vulnerable stuff stashed by gut before pyramid)
- above stairs in dwarven graveyard? (Sword of Nonnak is also unreclaimed)

Shops: D1 wands, D6 potions, D10 scrolls, D14 scrolls, UD5 potions

Altars: PC4 lawful, PC6 neutral, Dwarftown (D9) neutral, D11 neutral, NDC chaotic (above DarkForge), UD3 neutral

Herbs: D3 (morgia/moss), big room (D7 - 4 stable squares?), UD4 (alraun/stoma)

Pools: PC2 (in dark room), DarkForge (duh)

Unexplored areas:
- S3?
- D11? (note: trap room on level)
- DDL and VDDL (tension room in upper area?)
- DarkForge and above DarkForge (DF raided, 3 steel golems on level above)
- below D14 (the DH/AF split - WARNING, *THUMB* on DH1!)

Kitties:
- 1 in arena level, behind closed door (unlocked)
- 1 on D8, locked in top left corner
- UD1, roaming freely

The stashes should be consolidated into the ogre cavern once we get the dwarven quests.
Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse."

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/14/2008 at 15:27 (GMT -5) by Darren Grey]
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 06:27 (GMT -5)

stashes:

-behind Wladenbrok shop
-near staircase to big room (Iridia's?)
-in big room there i got sickened (mostly total crap)

i haven't seen others in last turn, but i left some stuff in bandit village - room opossite to master's thiefs room
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 06:29 (GMT -5)



Hopefully we will find herbs in the UD - some spense would be nice.

Where have we stashed the spellbooks??? We could be book casting FrostBolt to train Mana, whilst incidentally disposing of the occasional monster.

Speaking of which - the next player could maybe nip back into the SC and read the two scrolls for 50 turns (may not sounds very exciting, but would greatly help train literacy). Feels as if our elf ought to make a reasonable utility spell caster once Le and Lit are improved somewhat.

edit:
Wow, thats a whole lot of stashes - we'll get done for litering if we are not more careful.

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/14/2008 at 06:33 (GMT -5) by vogonpoet]
Darren Grey
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 06:30 (GMT -5)

Soirana: There was a spellbook there in the bandit village, nothing else. I picked it up so it's in our pack now (figured it'd get forgotten otherwise).

vogonpoet: Lit can be trained with ratling pamphlets more easily. And merchants suck with spells, no matter how good their stats - don't expect to be able to read books easily for a long time.
Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse."

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/14/2008 at 06:31 (GMT -5) by Darren Grey]
Soirana un
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 06:39 (GMT -5)

i've left bunch of spellbooks behind Waldenbrook's

iirc, there was now frost bolt book. Spell was received via wand of wonder while blasting giant boar
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 06:48 (GMT -5)

Frostbolt is the first book we picked up I think - Iridia got blinded by it, after Thrundar id'd it?

Trying to keep track certainly fun :)
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 09:51 (GMT -5)

> Uh, gut, what happened to Wyrmlance...?

It's by the D:8 stairs. I saw no reason to lug it
around, considering the 2-hander. Wasn't there
also a book stashed in the VD somewhere?

I certainly hope that we keep the 2-hander. A find
like that is extremely rare and very fun to use.
I don't really think any of us are going to run
around the DH looking for that *THUMB* noise,
just because we have a cute sword. That 2-hander
plus the invisibility cloak, will make crossing
the animated forest a breeze.

About the frost bolt book, I think I'm going to
have to set the configuration variable, to allow
bookcasting after all. I was kinda hoping that
with some luck, Rhea's learning would go up.
It looks like we are progressing through the
game so quickly though, that we won't be learning
spells until sometime after the tower, at least.

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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 09:59 (GMT -5)

Why are you so keen on dropping stuff we might need? We have decent polearm skill, why not put it to use against dragons?
You drop the golden ball.
You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west.
Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?"
Which direction? (123456789) 4
Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated.
You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd!
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 11:13 (GMT -5)

> Why are you so keen on dropping stuff we might need?


Well, I am used to playing with very limited
inventory. I have a pretty good idea of what one
needs, and what one doesn't, to succeed. The ACW
is still a ways off right now, and Wyrmlance really
isn't needed to dispatch baby dragons. Killing
adult dragons in melee at this stage in the game
is just asking for item destruction. In any case,
the 2-hander is just as effective, if anyone gets
the urge to melee black dragons in the wilderness.
(Please don't.)


Upon reflection, I probably should have dropped
Wyrmlance on the up staircase of D:1. Not because
we might have needed it, but because I should
have known that others might have liked to use
it for fun. It would have been handier for them
to retrieve it from D:1, rather than D:8.

Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong!


[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/14/2008 at 11:13 (GMT -5) by gut]
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 11:19 (GMT -5)

>The ACW is still a ways off right now

Oh, really? Very tempting offer.

i'd say not ways out but a bunch of morgia away.

Few dwarven quest rewards wouldn't hurt either.
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 11:37 (GMT -5)

I am also a notorious dropper. My droppings are usually stacked beside down staircase in HMV. I only take the most necessary things and I pride myself in having a short inventory. Can't believe we have Treasure Hunter and still no PoGA or stats after lvl17 and two potion shops...
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> Ran into an acid vortex (literally) which took me
> from 115 to 14. No worries.

Elemental gauntlets. Sweet elemental gauntlets.

> Went down to UD3 and found neutral altar.

How many altars can one PC generate?!

> Down on UD5 there was *gasp* a shop.

How many shops?!

> We have a mithril long sword of devastation

How many ego weapons?!!!!

The RNG is going to crush us, in the most horrible
way.
Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong!


[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/14/2008 at 11:58 (GMT -5) by gut]
Darren Grey
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Woo! This girl is having some fine luck with weapons. I'm definitely going to enjoy using that new mithril sword a lot.

I forgot about Swimming - rather silly of me. I had thought earlier I should pick it up when passing through Terinyo but it slipped my mind. It's normally something I do very early game...

We should definitely do the high kings dungeon and the dwarven quests before the tower. Extra fire resistance from the former, and a few nice things from the latter. We might even want to do the water temple first, though we have a few nice healing potions now. Whoever's next in dwarftown should remember to pop in on the dwarven mystic and also jog Thrundarr's memory of portals. There's still a pixie corpse in Waldenbrook's too, right? Since we won't be reading books much I'd say that worth munching on.
Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse."

[Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/14/2008 at 15:35 (GMT -5) by Darren Grey]
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 at 15:53 (GMT -5)

Nah. Booze plus wands should be enough teleportation for anyone.
You drop the golden ball.
You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west.
Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?"
Which direction? (123456789) 4
Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated.
You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd!
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