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Narcolepcy Registered user Last page view: 4798 days, 21 hours, 27 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Brimstone Man Enter ToEF at level 1, retrieve the Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire and leave. No other locations can be visited. There is a 'wuss' version, which allows leaving the ToEF to single wilderness square. For added challenge, do not use altars. This challenge game has not been completed, though few close attempts have been made. Anyone have a clue as to how anyone got even moderately close to acomplishing this? Best I've done is killing a single fire lizard. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4231 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
As far as I know I'm one of the people that's gotten furthest with this, mostly because I'm mad enough to keep trying. My high score list is full of failed attempts. It's a fun way to throw away a character - overall a shorter version of the whole game :P In my best game I was playing the wuss version with a hurthling elementalist and got two of the levels pacified with worms. Two starting rings of FR and Immune to Pain made the heat damage fairly manageable early on, and a fire drake corpse later on made me immune. Frost bolt took easy care of any threats. Was training up strength carrying seeds (from Survival on the outside square), and training Mana by casting all the fire-based spells, whilst killing monsters on the non-pacified levels for loot and xp. Got to level 17 when I died from starvation just after leaving the tower - I had run to the exit, hoping I could get to the wilderness square in time to use Survival. Was 1 turn too late. And stupid me forgot I had prayers to spend. Another guy did a "proof of concept" of the wuss version with a hurthling monk once. Scummed falcon starsign (for survival) and ring of fire resistance, then save-scummed to victory using thrown rocks. Biggest problem he said was the wyrm - the confusion meant he died a lot. Some things to consider: - Heat damage is extreme. With two rings of fire resistance you take 2 HP damage per turn. Immune to Pain talent takes this down to 1. A corpse and two items (or 1 item and ItP talent) means no damage. Elementalist level 6 class power unfortunately does not work. - You have 2 starting prayers. These are basically used to survive a few turns till you find a corpse. Killing things quickly means you gain a few levels, get more hp and can live in the heat a little longer, so it's best if you can kill things before resorting to your prayers. - Pretty much all of your initial equipment will burn. Only people who can still harm things without equipment are beastfighters, monks and elementalists. - Elementalists have a natural advantage in that they start with frost bolt. At level 1 with some luck you can kill anything in the tower in two hits (though grues shrug off bolts a lot). Dragons, giants and demons can all take you to level 6 in a single kill. Elementalists always start with 1 ring of FR, and could have 2. - Gnomes and hurthlings level fast, making them nice choices. To be honest I haven't tried much else. Gnomes have better magic, and the ventriloquism could be potentially handy. If you intend long-term scumming then pickpocketing every giant and demon might potentially lead to a fireproof blanket (fat chance though - they'd kill you if you tried pickpocketing them anyway). Hurthlings have food preservation and a bit more toughness, and the potential to have a cursed ring of FR. - Immune to Pain costs a lot of talents to get, which might mean forgoing Treasure Hunter if you want to have it straight away. It also requires 15 Wi and To, which many chars don't have. Gnomes tend to be short on To, whilst Hurthlings are short on Wi (though Falcon or Tree born Hurthlings are likely to have both). - Monsters are obviously extremely dangerous. Grues will shrug off bolts more times than you can be comfortable with, and you'll frequently be casting out of HP just to stay alive (HP that's being whittled away by the heat too). Fire giant kings are the worst - they can kill you by throwing rocks from outside your line of sight. Many a promising char has died from that. - Digging through to the temple would be very hard without wands. With some luck you could have enough piety to pray for a pick axe and not have it burn or break by the time you get through. Monks can kick through walls at a certain level. - Killing the Wyrm is impossible. Taking the challenge too seriously will drive you mad. Of course you have to be insane to try this challenge anyway... The RNG taunted me horribly with my last attempt - surge of power on the first level, turned out to be BoW. The regen would have made the challenge way easier. But it was guarded by a dark elven priestess who summoned highly experienced large spiders that took 5 bolts each to kill. No chance... Any other guardian monster and I could have had such a good time :( Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/16/2008 at 21:12 (GMT -5) by Darren Grey] |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4889 days, 22 hours, 34 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
Narcolepcy: > Best I've done is killing a single fire lizard. You can do much better than that. Start a drakeling elementalist. They have no chance of winning, but you will get a feel for the challenge that way. Your speed is like ~200, so you can use run and bolt tactics. I once was doing that in ADOM 1.0.0, and killed a red dragon immidiately upon entering the tower. It dropped a wand of wishing 3 charges, which was ultimately useless for a drakeling. I think that character was easily killed, by an out of line of sight flying rock, even after the wishes. > There is a 'wuss' version, which allows > leaving the ToEF to single wilderness square. When I try this challenge, I don't enter a wilderness square, but I do exit the tower, for healing purposes. I wonder if that counts for a 'wuss' version? Darren: > Got to level 17 when I died from starvation > just after leaving the tower That beats my best by a fair clip, it was in version 1.0.0. I forget the exp. level of the PC, but it was a troll elementalist. An altar was generated on the first level, and I was able to rely heavily on prayer, for healing and food. That one ultimately died on one of the other levels, I forget how. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/16/2008 at 21:36 (GMT -5) by gut] |
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Narcolepcy Registered user Last page view: 4798 days, 21 hours, 27 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
I had a drakeling wizard who started with a book of cure critical wounds and frostbolt, was healing myself to full casting off hp, but I died the first turn after casting frostbolt, dumb idea anyway as you'd just run outa castings. The wuss part is in the leaving of the tower. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/16/2008 at 22:38 (GMT -5) by Narcolepcy] |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4231 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
gut: >When I try this challenge, I don't enter a >wilderness square, but I do exit the tower, for >healing purposes. I wonder if that counts for >a 'wuss' version? By wilderness square it means the tower square on the map. This can be used for either healing or the survival skill. I had another pretty good char going once with bracers of regen and an altar. Ended up killed by a fire giant king that threw a rock at me from outside my line of sight. *sigh* Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/16/2008 at 22:49 (GMT -5) by Darren Grey] |
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Narcolepcy Registered user Last page view: 4798 days, 21 hours, 27 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
How many plant seeds do you think it would take to get crowned? Been using a gnome that started with itp, but haven't gotten a single corpse yet. Got a guy to lvl 9 with 8 pv in fireproof equip and a 2handed eternium sword with +20 damage, but died due to no corpses. |
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flashdoom Registered user Last page view: 4822 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes and 16 seconds ago. |
I just made my brimstone Gnome Elementalists(started with 5talents-heir,hardy,tough skin,15to,15wi,15le,18ma) to 27lvl o.0...Well i had 180ish powerpoints,160ish life,eternium 2h sword,helberd of defense,2drag scales,altar(unfortunetly in the corner which made me almost impossible to crown w/o sacrificing monsters- drag gold doubling also impossible due to quick gold melting on the ground :( )...Obviously all elementalist powers are useless(which made me sad :( ) and lightning ball/ice ball castings are terribly low(even on that level i couldnt get 50 of each)...Died due to red worm mob effect(killed 500ish)...No problems at all-fire giant kings with halberd of def,armor and coward tactic still hit but acceptable damage :) )But those fire worms-one probably with 6attacks at least and terrifying damage,the one that killed me suprisingly didnt fall to frost bolt(1st time i saw o.0 ).Food-no problems,8divine interentions-two on life due to worm struggling and rest on food at the beggining ).5locations-4 wilderness(but i escaped :) ).I was playing at ancardia so you can check whole gameplay ).Why i didnt go to wyrm on that level?Well altar made me obsessed with crowning (which would made the things easier with doze of luck ) but got to very close only :( .I figured i made mistake and could try to pray for pickaxes constantly each time i get enough piety to do so.With several pickaxes it ought to work ;) .And i had ring of mental stability(dont think i could resist conf with that thing but it should also help).One book generated on my way("oFirebolt- that was most usefull thing i found so far o.0 ).If it only was bouncing spell(stunning,light bold,magic missile) i would have relatively high chance to kill wyrm. Once again i would need very high piety to have 10ish prayers (i was shock and acid immune and fire/cold resistant-do you think piety overloop would take all my stuff dissappear or only cursed? ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Screenshot ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ######### ############################# #.......# #.w.........................# ########### #.......# #.###################.......# #.........# #.......# #.# #(......# #..<......# #.......#######w############# #######/# ######### #.........# #.....[.+......@....../.....# #.# #.......# #######/### #####+#########.#######.....#############.#####.......# #.# #.# #w# #...../........[................# ###/##### #.#########w### #.....#############.#####.......# #.......# #...[.....ww..# #.....# #.# #.......# #.......# #####.........# ####### #.# ######### #...>...# #.........# #.# #.......#########################################.# #......./.............................(...........# ################################################### Iaerj St:17 Le:15 Wi:15 Dx:10 To:15 Ch: 8 Ap: 8 Ma:22 Pe:15 N= DV/PV: 18/25 H: -18(162) P: 146(181) Exp: 27/1930387 TF: 3 Sp: 104 Burdened Coward ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Background Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Iaerj Race: male Gnome Class: Elementalist Eye color: brown Hair color: brown Complexion: tanned Height: 3'5" Weight: 127 pounds Age: 107 (grown-up) Star sign: Candle Birthday: 4/Candle (day 274 of the year) YOUR HISTORY: Your parents belong to the middle class. They are average people living in average quarters. Your father is a craftsman of mediocre talent. As a child your parents cared a lot for you. Despite all circumstances you enjoyed a happy and fine childhood. In your youth you enjoyed competition against others to the fullest. You were a very active kid. Your life as a young adult was characterized by steady determination. Your goal lay clearly ahead of you and you never strayed from your path. You decided to become a Elementalist. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inventory ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 1482 stones Carrying capacity: 1800 stones Head : uncursed horned helmet [+1, +4] [100s] Neck : uncursed amulet of protection +2 [3s] Body : uncursed black dragon scale mail (-2, -4) [-2, +2] [200s] Girdle : uncursed metal girdle [+0, +1] [25s] Cloak : - Right Hand : uncursed eternium two-handed sword (+18, 6d5+21) [-1, +0] Left Hand : - Right Ring : uncursed ring of fire resistance [1s] Left Ring : blessed ring of minor elemental mastery [+2, +2] [1s] Bracers : - Gauntlets : uncursed gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +1] [10s] Boots : uncursed adamantium boots [+0, +3] [89s] Missile weapon: - Missiles : heap of 20 uncursed rocks (+0, 1d4) [100s] Tool : - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 903 stones Carrying capacity: 1800 stones Helmets ('[') uncursed crown of regeneration [+0, +0] [55s] Shields ('[') uncursed small crystal shield [+5, +0] [72s] Necklaces (''') uncursed amulet of teleport control [3s] One-handed weapons ('(') blessed eternium dagger (+0, 2d4+7) [5s] uncursed knife of endurance (+6, 1d3+8) {To+4} [8s] Two-handed weapons ('(') uncursed halberd of defense (+7, 2d7+6) [+18, +0] [80s] Missile weapons ('}') cursed heavy crossbow (+3, +6) [140s] Missiles ('*') uncursed rock (+0, 1d4-2) [5s] cursed rock (+3, 1d4+3) [5s] heap of 8 uncursed rocks (+0, 1d4+3) [40s] uncursed rock (+2, 1d4) [5s] bundle of 6 uncursed quarrels (+1, 2d6-2) [12s] bundle of 15 uncursed quarrels (+1, 2d6) [30s] bundle of 9 blessed quarrels (+3, 2d6) [18s] heap of 6 cursed rocks (+1, 1d4) [30s] blessed rock (+3, 1d4-2) [5s] heap of 8 blessed rocks (+1, 1d4) [40s] heap of 5 blessed rocks (+2, 1d4) [25s] bundle of 2 uncursed black hurthling quarrels (+1, 1d3+5) [4s] bundle of 5 uncursed mithril arrows (+0, 1d6+3) [10s] uncursed dagger of returning (+4, 1d4) [10s] bundle of 20 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6) [40s] Tools (']') uncursed eternium ingot [8s] uncursed triangular key [1s] uncursed iron ingot [20s] uncursed square key [1s] uncursed small key [1s] uncursed climbing set [180s] Rings ('=') uncursed ring of mental stability [-1, +1] {Le+1} [1s] uncursed ring of stun resistance [1s] Wands ('\') blessed wand of fire (4 charges) [4s] uncursed wand of trap detection (1 charge) [3s] Valuables ('$') 3687 gold pieces [36s] Gems ('*') uncursed opal [1s] uncursed ruby [1s] heap of 2 uncursed emeralds [2s] cursed worthless piece of green glass [1s] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weapon Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Unarmed fighting 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30 Daggers & knives 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30 Clubs & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30 Maces & flails 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30 Swords 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30 Axes 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30 Whips 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30 Pole arms 5 +5 +2 +4 skilled 232 Twohanded weapons 4 +4 +4 +1 skilled 130 Staves 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30 Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Slings 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 13 Bows 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14 Crossbows 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 11 Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14 Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14 Thrown rocks & clubs 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 13 Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14 Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14 Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- ------------- -------------- Shields 0 +0 unskilled 30 Damage caused with your melee weapons: -------------------------------------- Right hand: +21 bonus to hit, 6d5+15 damage Damage caused with your missile weapons: ---------------------------------------- Ammunition: 20, base range: 2, +2 bonus to hit, 1d4-2 damage ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Climbing ............. 64 (good) [+1d5] Concentration ........100 (superb) [+1d5] First aid ............ 66 (good) [+1d3] Gemology ............. 61 (good) [+1d3] Haggling ............. 35 (fair) [+3d3] Healing ..............100 (superb) [+1d3] Listening ............ 49 (fair) [+1d5] Literacy .............100 (superb) [+1d5] Metallurgy ........... 33 (fair) [+3d5] Mining ............... 73 (great) [+2d4] Pick pockets ......... 42 (fair) [+1d3] Swimming ............. 94 (superb) [+1d5] Ventriloquism ........ 55 (good) [+1d3] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spells ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Burning Hands : 2124, 8pp (Effectivity: +0) Earthquake : 90, 80pp (Effectivity: +0) Fire Bolt : 2315, 10pp (Effectivity: +0) Fireball : 110, 20pp (Effectivity: +1) Frost Bolt : 643, 6pp (Effectivity: +30) Ice Ball : 15, 46pp (Effectivity: +0) Improved Fireball: 59, 30pp (Effectivity: +0) Lightning Ball : 17, 54pp (Effectivity: +1) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Effects of Corruption ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your skin is covered by tough scales (PV: +8, Dx: -6, Ap: -4). You exhale sulphur (Ch: -4). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- His achievements during his adventures: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Iaerj, the gnomish elementalist, was killed by a red worm. He scored 165092 points and advanced to level 27. He survived for 0 years, 8 days, 15 hours, 28 minutes and 16 seconds (13919 turns). Iaerj visited 5 places. His strength score was modified by +4 during his career. His willpower score was modified by -1 during his career. His charisma score was modified by +2 during his career. His appearance score was modified by +3 during his career. His mana score was modified by +4 during his career. His perception score was modified by +1 during his career. He ended his adventuring life on the second level of the tower of eternal flames. 907 monsters perished under his attacks. He possessed the following intrinsics: He was fire resistant (enhanced through items). He was cold resistant (gained through an item). He was lucky. Fate smiled upon him. He was shock resistant (enhanced through an item). He was immune to acidic attacks (gained through an item). He was able to breathe water. He had the following talents: Boon to the Family, Charming, Good Learner, Greased Lightning, Hardy, Heir, Immune to Pain, Iron Skin, Long Stride, Potent Aura, Quick, Strong Magic, Tough Skin, Very Quick. He had a final speed score of 104 (final base speed: 109). He was a messiah of Berwyn. He asked for 8 divine interventions. He was neutrally aligned. He was tainted by Chaos. The following monsters were vanquished: 51 fire beetles 33 fire demons 106 fire drakes 39 fire elementals 152 fire giants 29 fire giant kings 37 fire grues 84 fire lizards 37 red baby dragons 29 red dragons 310 red worms [Edited 1 time, last edit on 2/2/2011 at 07:28 (GMT -5) by flashdoom] |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4231 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
I'm very impressed! Any idea which ttyrec file on the server it was? I assume you got full resistance from a corpse? Altar was a lucky find for food - this challenge may be nigh impossible without it. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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flashdoom Registered user Last page view: 4822 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes and 16 seconds ago. |
i think it was http://ancardia.ath.cx/adom_users/donvito86/ttyrecs/ttyrec-Wed-Feb-2-00:55:45-2011 It starts with backup screen(idk why i encountered strange crash.It happened after i saw a fire dragon (or killed i dont remember in fact).Then i returned my backup(i think it was 1 turn before crash ).Unfortunetly i didnt find earlier ttyrec file(i didnt save at all-it was just straight attempt)...Anyway im obsessed with this challenge atm(right after i made immortal archnecro :p ) so you can expect some progress soon(i hope). PS: !char before this char found soaker but due to its uselesness i didnt feel it and died somewhere... [Edited 1 time, last edit on 2/3/2011 at 16:59 (GMT -5) by flashdoom] |