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Sardaukar Registered user Last page view: 5630 days, 6 hours, 18 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Bit of comparisons between classes. According to Guidebook: Archer...nothing spectacular except Sun's Messenger Assassin, even less...Cloak of Oman is useful. Barbarian...Vanquisher, Grod...both very nice, 3 chances out of 6 if non-elf. Rest not so great. Bard..nothing spectacular, Cloak of Oman. Beastfighter...Cloak of Oman, Bracers of War, Nature's Companion, Preserver. 5 out of 6 are good. Druid...Nature's Companion, Purifier..rest not very good. Elementalist....Brannalbin's Cloak of Defense, Ring of Immunity Farmer...nothing really good. Fighter...Vanquisher, Grod, BoW, Protector...not bad. Healer...Robes of Resistance, B. Cloak of Defense, Preserver. Merchant...nothing really good. Iron Crown of Havlor is nice though. Midcrafter...B. Cloak of Defense, Robes of Resistance, Ring of Immunity, Iron Crown of Havlor, Monk...Iron Crown of Havlor (nice for extra PV and Le for Monk), Ring of Immunity, Robes of Resistance Necromancer...Preserver, Ring of Immunity, Robes of Resistance, Vanquisher..not bad set. Paladin...Justifier, Perion's Plate Mail Priest...Justifier, Purifier..that's about it. Ranger...Nature's Companion, Sun's Messenger. Thief...Cloak of Oman..even Whirlwind is not really good. Weaponsmith...Bracers of War, Perion's Plate Mail, Protector, Ring of Immunity. Nice set. Wizard...Brannalbin's Cloak of Defense, Ring of Immunity, Robes of Resistance. Staff of the Archmagi is nice but it's stave and you cannot use shield with it. Staff of the Wanderer is crap... Soo..which Class you think gets best crowning gifts? I think Beastfighter and Necromancer are surprisingly good in this aspect, having good chance to get something really useful. With farmer you are not getting anything truly great, IHO. |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4068 days, 2 hours, 37 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
You're a bit harsh on Farslayer, aren't you? It gives even more damage than Sun's Messenger, and undead slaying is cared for by undead slaying ammo. Skullcrusher for the Barbarian is definitely nice as well. I have a hard time believing that no one gets Executor (arguably one of the, if not the best melee weapon around) as a crowning gift... You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4239 days, 1 hour, 55 minutes and 43 seconds ago. |
Perion's plate mail is awful - can't see why you put much value to it. I prefer a smithed up or ego eternium plate mail - if it gets damaged then it weighs so little you can have a few backups. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4068 days, 2 hours, 37 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
Typical that my beastfighter missed out on such great stuff when I got crowned with him. He got the boots of the divine messenger back then. Which are okay, but nowhere near as awesome as the bracers of war or Preserver. I also have a knack for getting crowned with Long Sting as a fighter. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/24/2008 at 18:55 (GMT -5) by Silfir] |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4897 days, 4 hours, 12 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
Are we using the same guidebook? I think the 'Boots of the Divine Messenger' is a pretty good artifact, 7LB's aren't guaranteed after all. I think the stats are respectable at [+3, +3] {Dx+5}, and the special properties can free up the necklace slot. It allows you to control teleportation. It grants resistance to death attacks. It grants resistance to paralyzation. For archers, the Boots and Farslayer are pretty good, and they compliment the class. Assasins get a chance for the Emerald Dagger and Executor! I *LOVE* both of these! If given a choice, I would have to chose Executor, over the emerald dagger, but the dagger is super cool in it's own way. Bards have a chance at the Boots, that can be nice if they don't go the 'Heir' route. Elementalist also get a chance for the Iron Crown of Havlor. Farmers get a chance for Skullcrusher. Merchant's are also nicely complimented by the Boots, and the Crown of Leadership. Monks also have a chance for the Boots. This compliments them nicely, as monks have less use for 7LB's than most classes do. Necromancers getting a chance for Vanquisher, is almost a joke. May as well give beastfighters a chance at it. Paladin get a chance for Aylas Holy Scarf. You don't think [+10, +10] {Ch+6} is a good gift? Priest also has a chance for Skullcrusher and the Scarf. Ranger: Boots. Weaponsmiths wouldn't really be complimented by Perion's Plate Mail or Protector, because one would expect a smith to SMITH something better. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Sardaukar Registered user Last page view: 5630 days, 6 hours, 18 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Problem with Boots of the Divine messenger and Aylas Holy Scarf is that they occupy same slot as 7LB or Ankh. And charisma is about as useful attribute as appearance..:) 7LB are not guaranteed, but not rare. I was trying to think stuff that is really useful for class when crowned. |
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vogonpoet Registered user Last page view: 4956 days, 9 hours, 26 minutes and 27 seconds ago. |
I agree with Gut - how is the emerald dagger not useful for a PC? That is once serious knife. How many humanoids need slaying in the game? Quite a few. +Crit? Goodbye everything else. Would an assassin look cool wielding a permanently poisoned dagger? |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4068 days, 2 hours, 37 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
The boots are pretty enormous, but as Sardaukar said - they occupy the slot for 7LBs. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 21 hours, 24 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
Emerald dagger and Executor = win. No one can justify not winning with a char that gets an artifact humanoid slayer. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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SirMason Registered user Paladin of the Shining Citadel Last page view: 4744 days, 21 hours, 27 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
What about Shirt of the Saints for priests? What was it, like a +8 Le bonus? The emerald dagger was my assassin's gift. That is a GOOD assassin weapon. I was lucky enough to have Serpent's Bite and also an orcish dagger of penetration, which I gleefully dual-wielded. You pick up the Wand of Do Nothing. 'z'... Nothing happens. 't'... The Wand of Do Nothing misses the kestral. Come on, it's a Wand of Do Nothing! |
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Sardaukar Registered user Last page view: 5630 days, 6 hours, 18 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Problem with Emerald Dagger, IMHO, is that it's..well..a dagger... You don't get much DV or damage from dagger..even though Emerald Dagger's secondary qualities are nice. And if you get Needle & Sting, that dagger-training is nice too..but then..any character kicks ass with N&S. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/25/2008 at 15:16 (GMT -5) by Sardaukar] |
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Sardaukar Registered user Last page view: 5630 days, 6 hours, 18 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Some of the crowning gifts I really like: Vanquisher...need I say more. I have generally been disapointed with Skullcrusher. Nature's Companion or Grod make ToEF lot easier. Ring of Immunity..very nice. Bracers of War, even more nice ! Ditto with Preserver. Of course, when I play Monk, I tend to get crownded with Shezestriakis... |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4068 days, 2 hours, 37 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
Skullcrusher isn't big on the raw damage output, but if you support it with the basher talents, it makes short work of anything humanoid. Grantedly, it's useless against the Ancient Chaos Wyrm. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Narcolepcy Registered user Last page view: 4806 days, 3 hours, 5 minutes and 19 seconds ago. |
Protector = win, has a resistance you can't get from pools, often making me waste a ring slot on it, and I have never smithed a shield as high as it, get it at level 8 = ez game. |
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zv_unplugged Unregistered user |
Beastfighter gifts are win, you really shouldn't be disappointed no matter what you get. The speed and movement boni on beastfighters make it in my opinion okay to leave SLBs for wilderness travel and keep the wonderful, wonderful resistances of the Divine Messenger, especially for an all-lawful bf, who can't eat some blinky doggies. |