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Pete Unregistered user |
Hi, Running a Orcish Barbarian at the moment, just cleared out the air temple and on D40. Good equipment executor, GoGS, 7LBs but only level 21. Haven't had any real problems yet, but not sure if I should backup and prepare or run to end game. Haven't got this far before so not sure what to do. Thinking of: 1. Clearing the rift for xp, haven't been there yet. 2. Back to Dwarf town to smith up items, not sure how many ingots I have stashed. 3. Find Bulp's mum and kill her. Do I have to have chatted to Blup to find her on a water square in wilderness. Never done this before. Any other suggestions appreciated or encouragement to go to end game. Cheers, Pete |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4897 days, 3 hours, 33 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
It's kind of hard to know, without more info. Please give a .vlg file to go by. Just press the ) key, that will create a vlg file in your adom folder. Open it in a text editor, and snip out the irrelevant stuff (like kill list and so on.) Post it on this thread with the tags (PRE) and (/PRE) at the begining and end of it. Just replace the ( and ) with [ and ]. That will make it easier to read. I don't see how you got that deep in the CoC, without gaining more exp. levels. You must have really high speed. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Pete Unregistered user |
Thanks gut |
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Pete Unregistered user |
(PRE) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Screenshot ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ######### #.......# ####### #.......####################### #...@.# #......./............./.......# #...>*# #.......###############.......# #...}.# #.......# #.......# #/#*### #.......# ######### #.#.# #.......# #### . #.#.# ###/##### ########### #.. .# #.#.# #.# #.........# #.# .# #.#.# ###/### #.........# #.# .# # #.#.# #.....# #.........# #.# .# .# ###.### #.....# #.........# #####/###.#..#. #.....# #.....# #.........# #....[/........ #.....###.....#######/###########...<.###.#.... #....././................[....../.....# .# ## ####################################### .. ### Ug Go Smash St:48 Le:17 Wi:30 Dx:33 To:30 Ch: 5 Ap: 5 Ma:10 Pe:24 L+ DV/PV: 49/26 H: 382[390] P: 80[80] Exp: 23/2314955 D: 42 Sp: 145 Blessed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Character Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ug Go Smash St:48 Le:17 Wi:30 Dx:33 To:30 Ch: 5 Ap: 5 Ma:10 Pe:24 L+ DV/PV: 49/26 H: 382[390] P: 80[80] Exp: 23/2314955 M: 89993 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Background Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Ug Go Smash Race: male Orc Class: Barbarian Eye color: black Hair color: black Complexion: tanned Height: 6'1" Weight: 19 pounds Age: 20 [grown-up, 5 years of unnatural aging added in] Star sign: Dragon Birthday: 2/Dragon [day 152 of the year] YOUR HISTORY: Your father was an accomplished hunter and warrior. You were well-respected and comparatively wealthy. As a child you were very active and imitated the hunters and warriors of your tribe at all opportunities. In your youth you strived very hard to become the best warrior in your tribe. You watched, learned and became very strong and nimble. As a young adult your family was killed in a raid. You became embittered and filled with the desire for revenge. At the age of 15 you left your tribe. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weapon Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Unarmed fighting 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 19 Daggers & knives 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 23 Clubs & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 5 Maces & flails 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 23 Swords 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 23 Axes 11 +10 +8 +3 Mastery 2644 Whips 1 +1 +0 +1 basic 23 Pole arms 11 +12 +7 +14 Mastery 245 Twohanded weapons 3 +3 +3 +1 basic 30 Staves 1 +1 +0 +1 basic 23 Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Slings 2 +4 +3 +0 basic 10 Bows 10 +20 +15 +3 excellent 162 Crossbows 8 +16 +12 +2 excellent 91 Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Thrown rocks & clubs 2 +4 +3 +0 basic 14 Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- ------------- -------------- Shields 9 +18 excellent 729 Damage caused with your melee weapons: -------------------------------------- ÆRight hand: Î+86Æ bonus to hit, Î5d6+59Æ damage Damage caused with your missile weapons: ---------------------------------------- ÆAmmunition: Î36Æ, base range: Î13Æ, Î+65Æ bonus to hit, Î2d6+43Æ damage ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spells ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Calm Monster : 11, 15pp [Effectivity: +0] Cure Serious Wounds: 11, 18pp [Effectivity: +0] Magic Map : 15, 74pp [Effectivity: +0] Remove Curse : 7, 96pp [Effectivity: +0] Revelation : 17, 60pp [Effectivity: +0] Strength of Atlas : 10, 19pp [Effectivity: +0] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archery .................. 82 [great] [+1d5] Athletics ................100 [superb] [+2d4] Backstabbing .............100 [superb] [+2d4] Bridge building .......... 22 [mediocre] [+3d4] [ma] Climbing .................100 [superb] [+2d4] Detect traps ............. 58 [good] [+2d4] Dodge ....................100 [superb] [+2d4] Find weakness ............100 [superb] [+1d5] First aid ................ 56 [good] [+3d4] Haggling ................. 18 [mediocre] [+3d5] Healing .................. 80 [great] [+2d4] Herbalism ................100 [superb] [+1d5] Law ...................... 60 [good] [+1] Listening ................100 [superb] [+2d4] Literacy ................. 64 [good] [+1] Metallurgy ............... 42 [fair] [+3d3] Mining ................... 63 [good] [+2d4] Pick pockets ............. 67 [good] [+1d3] Stealth ..................100 [superb] [+2d4] Survival ................. 48 [fair] [+4d5] Swimming ................. 73 [great] [+3d4] Tactics .................. 58 [good] [+2d4] Two weapon combat ........ 32 [fair] [+4d4] Woodcraft ................ 29 [mediocre] [+4d5] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Effects of Corruption ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You exhale sulphur [Ch: -4]. You have become very light [1/10 weight, St: -6, Dx: +4, To: -6, Ap: -6, +20 speed]. You have grown a bulging cranium [Le: +6, Wi: +4, Ap: -6, PV: -4, To: -3]. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inventory ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 7020 stones Carrying capacity: 10275 stones He: blessed rustproof crown of regeneration [+0, +0] [55s] Ne: blessed necklace of rapid healing [2s] Bo: blessed red dragon scale mail [-1, -4] [-1, +12] [220s] Gi: blessed girdle of giant strength [+0, +0] {St+12} [30s] Cl: uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +3] [20s] RH: blessed jet-black battle axe [named] [+2, 5d6+6] [-4, +1] {St+3} [+3 spd] LH: uncursed tower crystal shield [-2] [+15, +4] [260s] RR: blessed ring of slaying [+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage] [1s] LR: uncursed ring of slaying [+6 melee damage, +6 missile damage] [1s] Br: blessed rustproof bracers of resistance [+0, +0] [10s] Ga: uncursed elemental gauntlets [-1, +0] [+0, +3] [10s] Bo: blessed seven league boots [+1, +0] [30s] MW: uncursed heavy crossbow [+3, +3] [140s] Mi: bundle of 36 uncursed quarrels [+1, 2d6] [72s] Tl: heap of 20 uncursed spenseweeds [40s] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 6039 stones Carrying capacity: 10275 stones Helmets ['['] uncursed horned helmet [+1, +3] [100s] leather cap [5s] Armor ['['] scale mail [196s] scale mail [288s] Gauntlets ['['] gloves [6s] Cloaks ['['] uncursed cloak of invisibility [+0, +1] [+1, +0] [30s] hooded cloak [40s] Girdles ['['] uncursed mithril girdle [+0, +4] [20s] blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s] metal girdle [12s] Necklaces ['''] uncursed necklace of the eye [3s] blessed amulet of order [3s] uncursed amulet of protection from constructs [3s] uncursed ankh [3s] uncursed amulet of protection from undead [3s] uncursed amulet of light [3s] blessed amulet of speed [+3 spd] [3s] uncursed amulet of death ray resistance [7s] uncursed amulet of protection +2 [3s] uncursed amulet of defense +5 [3s] amulet of perseverance {Wi+3} [3s] Bracers [','] blessed bracers of speed [+0, +0] [+4 spd] [10s] One-handed weapons ['['] blessed spear of hunting [+1, 1d8+1] [50s] blessed pick axe [+0, 1d6+1] [75s] uncursed phase dagger [+2, 1d4] [5s] broadsword [38s] heap of 2 warhammers [120s] gray dagger [5s] hand axe [50s] Two-handed weapons ['['] blessed rune-covered halberd "Wyrmlance" [+15, 4d8+10] [-2, +0] [50s] blessed silvery two-handed sword "Vanquisher" [+3, 6d5+3] [-3, +0][300s] Missile weapons ['}'] uncursed rune-covered sling "Whirlwind" [+12, +12] [3s] uncursed short bow of accuracy [+6, +0] [20s] uncursed heavy crossbow [+3, +0] [140s] blessed short bow [+1, +0] [20s] heavy crossbow [140s] light crossbow [70s] Missiles ['/'] Some of each slaying ammo except demon Tools [']'] uncursed waterproof blanket [10s] heap of 3 uncursed tiny keys [3s] heap of 4 uncursed hexagonal keys [4s] uncursed round key [1s] heap of 5 uncursed small keys [5s] uncursed holy symbol [5s] uncursed climbing set [180s] heap of 7 blessed sis [70s] heap of 3 uncursed fireproof blankets [30s] uncursed plain blanket [10s] heap of 3 uncursed square keys [3s] uncursed fluff ball [2s] heap of 14 uncursed sis [140s] blessed triangular key [1s] uncursed triangular key [1s] heap of 2 sis [20s] heap of 15 sis [150s] hexagonal key [1s] piece of iron ore [120s] si [10s] fireproof blanket [10s] Rings ['='] heap of 2 uncursed rings of acid resistance [2s] uncursed ring of stun resistance [1s] uncursed ring of see invisible [1s] blessed ring of fire resistance [1s] uncursed ring of the fish [1s] blessed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s] uncursed ring of weakness [1s] uncursed ring of invisibility [1s] uncursed ring of the clear mind [1s] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Achievements ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- He survived for 0 years, 43 days, 10 hours, 32 minutes and 26 seconds [89993 turns]. Ug Go Smash visited 95 places. His strength score was modified by +6 during his career. His learning score was modified by +10 during his career. His willpower score was modified by +17 during his career. His dexterity score was modified by +16 during his career. His toughness score was modified by +10 during his career. His charisma score was modified by +8 during his career. His appearance score was modified by +10 during his career. His mana score was modified by +9 during his career. His perception score was modified by +11 during his career. He was unnaturally aged by 5 years. He was the champion of the arena. He was a member of the thieves guild. He saved Khelavaster from certain death. (/PRE) |
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Pete Unregistered user |
Just killed the ancient stone beast. Have more equipment stashed up in Ogre cave. Should I remove bulging cranium corruption or do you think there is a chance I could start learning spells? |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4068 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
You're a Barbarian. What would you need spells for? All the advantages of spells can be perfectly replaced with the ability to land sound whackings on the head. There's no particular need to remove the corruption though - I'd save my removal in case one of the really bad corruptions comes along. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/30/2008 at 07:03 (GMT -5) by Silfir] |
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Pete Unregistered user |
Any advice for gaining levels Silfir? |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4897 days, 3 hours, 33 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Drats, I was hoping to see your wand list. Oh, well, I'll try anyway. There is one option open to you for gaining some exp. levels very quickly. Kill Sharad Waador the AKW. Sharad is a kamic being, so whacking him will doom you. Contrary to what the guidebook says, he does not see invisible, which makes him an easy kill. He is worth about a gazillion exp. points, and poses no danger to you at all, if you have the right equipment. You have the ring of invisibility, so you are set there. Only need wands of magic missile now. Even if you only have one lonely wand, it is still possible. You will just have to charge it multiple times to get the job done. I wish I could give you an idea of how many zaps it will take, but I think that it varies from character to character. I would say have at least twenty, maybe more. It's well worth using the wand charges, for the exp. levels. Be careful with magic missiles though, they bounce around. Also, if you want Needle, you have to do the BDC quest before killing Sharad. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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zv Registered user Last page view: 5660 days, 1 hour, 31 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
I would advise against fighting any Big Scary Dragons if that's your best play to date. It's easy to make a mistake, even if you know all the theory (for example, it's good to remember that Blup's mom has high PV and regeneration and because of that killing her requires more than a scroll of darkness - ie. a good weapon). I think your safest option is to learn smithing, use the pickaxe to get some ore, smelt it, wait a bit for skill increases and then smith up your equipment a bit. Then you would be well on the way to a win. Experience levels should come quickly in the depths of CoC. |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4068 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
"gazillion xp" for "easy kill"... "smith up your equipment a bit" ("a bit", yeah right)... Have you all been seduced by the easy path to power? DESCEND, KICK ASS, and BARELY SURVIVE. That's the way! You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/30/2008 at 09:46 (GMT -5) by Silfir] |
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Doalag Registered user Last page view: 5850 days, 3 hours, 43 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
That's exactly the point, why make the game so tough (particularly the beginning) when the real challenge will come from the players own decisions? :-p |
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Pete Unregistered user |
Went with wish for Emperor Molach, killed ~15, one put on hulking armor and steamed me. Oh well was a good run... |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4897 days, 3 hours, 33 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
> DESCEND, KICK ASS, and BARELY SURVIVE. That's > the way! Believe me, I know all about that. Recently being toasted by the Archmage about half a dozen times. Do you really suggest descending to take on the Archmage at exp. level 21? And you call me masochist! : ) Sorry the molochs got you though Pete. It would be pretty tough with a barbarian, to keep them from picking up a spare moloch armor. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4068 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
My method turns out to be still safer than the emperor moloch wish, apparently... For me, there are two rules when I play ADOM: 1. Have fun. 2. Don't die. In that order. Smtihing up equipment, making all the enemies pushovers by getting level 50 - not fun. Barely surviving a heated battle armed mostly with your superior wit and sense of strategy and tactics - fun. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/30/2008 at 11:41 (GMT -5) by Silfir] |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4897 days, 3 hours, 33 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Start playing for turns, it's addictive though. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4239 days, 1 hour, 16 minutes and 19 seconds ago. |
Start playing Brimstone Man - it's like a really shortened version of the main game. Play for 50 turns and inevitably die. There may be some glimmer of hope for some promising characters, but the fate is the same for all... Shame on the moloch death, Pete, but personally I think you were being a little greedy :P Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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zv Registered user Last page view: 5660 days, 1 hour, 31 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
Wishing for the emperor moloch is something only trolls with god-appetite should attempt... because it's the most dangerous option for getting experience. It's manageable, even easy, if you're 100% prepared, but if you're only prepared in 99%... you'll die. I would also add that actually closing the gate would probably be easier for a level 21 guy than molochs... I once walked into the Mana Temple with a level 27 hurthling archer and walked out 9 xp levels richer. Still died a horrible, ghost-related death on D:50, though, but that was due to sheer stupidity on my part (no, really. saving ammo on D:50? Why? WHY did I think of that then? :( ) |
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Caladriel Registered user ReGiStErEd UsEr Last page view: 4696 days, 19 hours, 37 minutes and 59 seconds ago. |
Can Blup's Mom see invisible or fight in darkness? If not, then I think she will chew you up and spit you out as chum for the sharks. I have never beaten her with a non-cheated character, but then, I don't do darkness or invisible when fighting -- I only use them to run away -- I figure that if the monsters weren't able to fight in the dark, my character would not be able to either. |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 20 hours, 45 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
No, she can't fight in the darkness. That's how most people kill her. If she runs you can summon her back. She can't see invisible, but that won't help much. Caladriel - while some monsters can't, some can fight in the darkness. You're one of those that can. Being fair has nothing to do with it. You don't go into melee with a greater moloch just because he can't cast spells and shoot PC slaying missiles :P A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5663 days, 20 hours, 10 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
Unless you're a barbarian. With 1000+hp. And Vanquisher. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 20 hours, 45 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
Not really. 500 hps and a good penetrating weapon is enough. Or a beastfighter with 600-700 hps, rings of slaying and find weakness. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/31/2008 at 15:31 (GMT -5) by Maelstrom] |
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Sulangatori Registered user Tourist Last page view: 1441 days, 6 hours, 41 minutes and 7 seconds ago. |
Speed + penetration. Usually after bugcave and speed around 150-160, you get two hits without the GM getting any. |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4897 days, 3 hours, 33 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
GM's have a walking pattern like the EG. It is possible to do the 'dance of death' with them, even at a relatively low exp. level. If you don't mind spending a number of turns memorizing their patterns. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |