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Kingsdragon Registered user You smelt it you dealt it! Last page view: 5769 days, 14 hours, 53 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Hey I just signed up to this forum cause I'm a avid player of ADOM, I play i without cheating. I usually play as a Grey Elf Wizard, but I seem to die sooner or later (usually sooner)and wanted to know if anyone had any hints as to keeping him alive? Atm I'm playing a Dwarf Beastfighter, lvl 21 (Man it's so hard to lvl up... next time I do beastfighter I think I'll play gnomish :|) with invisible intristic and control teleportation with a bunch of other stuff (pools are cool...) and was wondering if anyone knew the best armour for him? Also I don't know any of the abbreviations people use here... Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife XD |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4067 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
First of all, welcome to this forum! Best armour? Well, beastfighters can wear anything, so the best armor in theory is probably Nature's Companion because of the immunities and the speed... Let's get real, though. Since you have the power of controlled teleportation at your side, provided the possession of some means of item detection or magic mapping it would be no problem for you to check out the nice stashes of armour over at Darkforge. Just get in, detect items or read the magic mapping scroll, and teleport yourself into the room with all the armour. There's a good chance of you finding dragon scale mail there. Oh, and if you find leather armor weighing exactly 120 stones, get it, greater identify it, love it! Even without item detection or magic mapping, you should be capable of defeating the steel golems somehow... Beastfighters tend to be real powerful in melee. Be real careful though, they can hit hard. You should have 150 HP before you try to fight them. Darkforge, in case you didn't already know, is the second level of the dungeon you get to by going through the "non-descript tunnel" south to the centor of the Drakalor chain. You know you've found the right one if you are attacked by a steel golem. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Kingsdragon Registered user You smelt it you dealt it! Last page view: 5769 days, 14 hours, 53 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
I have White dragon scale mail and 320HP I also have a wand of wishing 1 charge left (used the other three) Yea I just visited dark forge, got the Crown of Science and sacrificed it to my Deity just now, since I'm a champion of law i'm reluctant to do the quests the Dwarf in there assigns. I am wonder as to how I'm supposed to get into the stairs in the darkforge, they are blocked by some fire spirit of some kind. I just found out by reading something that I need the Bridge Building manual to add points to the skill :S somewhere early in the game it got ruined by some water :S:S Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife XD |
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Timpen Registered user za za zaa za zaa Last page view: 5770 days, 9 hours, 52 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
You cannot get into the stairs there until you have gone up from the caverns of chaos to darkforge (a shortcut). The bridge building skill is not really needed since you can create ice bridges with wands of cold, frost bolt or ice ball spell. Remember however that they can only hold 2000s of weight. Si vis pacem, para bellum |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5140 days, 14 hours, 7 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
Your bridge building skill will also improve with use. If you have some sort of water near to some sort of logs, you can use a HATCHET (this is essential along with the logs) to try it out. Trees can be gotten from the wilderness, or you can slay some tree-like creatures in the main cavern. With a skill of 10-20 you might fail 10 times without building a single bridge. But at least the skill will auto-improve after a while. Logs are heavy, so you can't carry 50 logs into the "bad place" where you need them, so best to train up somewhere else first. Or use a wand of cold (beastfighter will probably never be able to use spells) Grey elf wizard: Stay in the changing dungeon (SE of teinyo) until you have enough spells. You need a lot of attack spells, and several of the other spells. Start at level 1-2, then go down to 8-9 when you are able. If you survive this, you will be level 15, and have many options due to all the potentially useful spells. (Teleport - escape, or teleport away monsters) (Knock - never fear door traps again) (Invisibility - escape, sneak past toughies, stay invis and use bolt-spells) (Strength of atlas - carry all you want with you) (Lightning ball - make short work of steel golems) etc. For attack spells: Magic missile will work on anything, you should get 1-2 spellbooks of this, and keep training it. Ball spells never get shrugged, although some monsters resist them. Burning hands is a single-monster fire-attack, not shruggable although it can be resisted. Great vs. undead. In general: * Get 1-2 levels * Get basic gear * Get levels and spellbooks in the ID. Eating a blink dog corpse is also good * Play the game. Find _herbs_ * Spend time harvesting and eating the all-important morgia root. * When willpower and toughness are 25, proceed. * Win the game. |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4067 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
Agree with Molach. If you must keep a gray elven wizard alive at all costs, heavily using the ID is the way to do it. Winning with a gray elven wizard without ever visiting the ID is probably a challange one should try when he's won the game. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Kingsdragon Registered user You smelt it you dealt it! Last page view: 5769 days, 14 hours, 53 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Yea, I know when I played with a Dark Elf that the ID is good for spell books, I heard not to go past lvl 5 though cause it's not corruption free? Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife XD |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4896 days, 10 hours, 30 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
ID is corruption free, up until level 10. I have actually written a wizard's guide. You can probably find it with a google search. About beastfighters, they have high speed, and that hinders your exp. point gains. High speed is a blessing and a curse, it is powerful, but really hurts your level ups. I think being invisible, halves the experience points you get from killing other monsters. If so, you are definitely going to have leveling problems later. You can lower your speed a bit, by becoming bloated and burdened. The invisibility can only be permenantly removed by drinking from a pool, so you might not want to do that. If you find yourself in sore need of exp. points, later in the game, do NOT wish for 'emperor moloch'. That is a good way to get killed. Consider stairhopping in the ID, try level ~30, and listen for threat rooms to clear. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4238 days, 8 hours, 13 minutes and 24 seconds ago. |
Welcome to the forums! I'd second gut's guide to wizards - you can find it in Silfir's sig (along with guides to a few other classes). I don't think I've ever played beastfighters properly, so I can't give a huge amount of specific advice. But in general you should now be thinking of completing the Tower of Eternal Flames in the not too distant future. You certainly have enough HP for the task. How much fire resistance do you have though? And what's your offense like? Any fireproof blankets and rings of ice? And what about healing potions or spenseweed? Things to consider for the future if you're not prepared already. But first of all you'll want to get the Ring of the High Kings from the the lake of chaos pirahnas. You need a wand of cold for that, and don't step on the ice if you are carrying more than 2000s (check the @ screen for your current carrying amount beforehand). The guardian there isn't too tough, but he can confuse - I recommend 'a'pplying first aid on coward tactics until it wears off if that happens. Don't do the evil dwarf's quests - bad things will happen. They're only for chaotic people to take on (and most of them don't bother either - the rewards ain't spectacular unless you have a love of corruption). The stairs in DarkForge will be unblocked once you come up from the other side of them (and you need the high kings ring and the fire orb to get that far). Have you been to Khelevaster or the Water Temple yet? If you've not seen or saved the dying sage yet then you'd be well-advised to spend a wish on an amulet of life-saving to give him. The Water Temple shouldn't be much trouble, but you might want to use Darkness on the Snake to be safe. If there's an acronyms you don't understand then go ahead and ask - we do use a lot, I must admit. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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mozzyy Unregistered user |
yeah weaker characters should go to the IDungeon. Stay there until you get a good main attack, a backup, and a large shield. if the puppy cave has a mixed monster vault in it then wait until you've got 30/10 dv/pv and a good heal spell. lightning lizzard really pack a punch. 25/5 is ok for starters, just make sure you equip a spear as soon as possible. make a trap with a wand if you have to and put tactics to coward then hit cntrl+t to trigger the trap. magic missle will be one of your most usefull spells for clearing rooms, it won't destroy items ever. save frost bolt for the flaming tower in the west. don't kill keethrax unless you have a good light source and burning hands or other ball spell. you can bolt him but it's harder. look for 15s girdles, they're great for weak characters. always check the outlaw town to see if he has scrolls of identify there. if not, wait until you have 3 types of unid' scrolls in your backpack with the same name. then try the one with the least amount first. it will be either identify or uncursing the most common two types. |
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mozzyy Unregistered user |
oh one more thing...when hyou're about to die. which is probably pretty often. just stop everything and look at your entire inventory. i can't tell you how many times i could've lived if i had just waited. no game turns pass from looking at and exiting your inventory. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4238 days, 8 hours, 13 minutes and 24 seconds ago. |
And when your about to die remember prayer - it's often the one thing I forget about. Teleportation, Darkness and Invisibility are often the other good get out of jail free cards, if available. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4896 days, 10 hours, 30 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
> don't kill keethrax unless you have a good > light source and burning hands I thought Keethrax resisted fire. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Kingsdragon Registered user You smelt it you dealt it! Last page view: 5769 days, 14 hours, 53 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Hey guys thanks for all the help, muchas gracias :) Alright, @Darren Grey I'm reading your site now, looks hellaluva helpfull... I have fire resistance, no fire risistance rings though, but I'll go hunting for them. I used my wand (wished for literacy) up so I'll go and get a wish from a pool, got a heap of them here :S risky I know, but I seem to have luck with pools, have so far anyway. My attack is around 22 I think not sure. Yes, I have saved him, used a wish for the life saving amulet, dropped a lot of cool stuff :) I may have to read one of the scrolls of remove corruption though for the wand thingy, cause I have that corruption "Living mana battery" and no I haven't been to the water temple. I think, I don't remember rightly, but I think there is another stair blocked by... a portal? something like that. I don't know how to get past it yet.. @Mozzyy I have got a whole heap of shields but wearing a shield and being a beastfighter don't mix :) And I have a girdle of giant strength ( thought "bulky girdle" was a eye opener...) And thanks for the tip :) Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife XD |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4896 days, 10 hours, 30 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
> I used my wand (wished for literacy) Literacy is also obtainable from a dark sage corpse, and completing the first dwarven quest. If you haven't chatted with the ancient dwarf about 'gate' and 'quest', then you should do so. Completing the 'gate' quest opens the dwarven portal. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Kingsdragon Registered user You smelt it you dealt it! Last page view: 5769 days, 14 hours, 53 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
I think I done that, put holy water on a dwarfs grave or something, maybe it was another one that was blocked, eating a dark sage made it "It suddenly gets much harder to think" or something like that before so I haven't done it since. Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife XD |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4238 days, 8 hours, 13 minutes and 24 seconds ago. |
Hmm, I always say portal instead of gate... Ah well, chat with the old dwarf about gate or portal again and he'd open up the lower depths of the CoC for you. The water temple is on a level where you can only normally explore half the dungeon area, and you have to use digging to get into the other side. Don't play around with pools unless you actually have something you want to wish for. You've had your luck already with a wand of wishing - don't push it :P Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4896 days, 10 hours, 30 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
> Hmm, I always say portal instead of gate I used to, but 'gate' has fewer letters than 'portal'. Of course, some may say that the time you actually save, by typing the two fewer letters is minimal. However, I think it is worthwhile, to type in as few letters as is possible, to accomplish any particular task. Typing more letters than is needed, to get the job done, can be a real waste of time. My theory is, that if you can save the 0.4 seconds, by typing in two fewer letters, then you definitely should save the 0.4 seconds by typing in the two fewer letters. I mean, who wants to type in more letters than they absolutely have to type? Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4238 days, 8 hours, 13 minutes and 24 seconds ago. |
Yes. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4067 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
Are you kidding me? My guides are all about saying entirely too much to point out a very simple fact. Like the Guide to being a Druid. I could write "Play a Priest instead" and be done with it. But noooo, I've written 219 kilobytes of inane drivel. (Expect an update after I've gotten some sleep.) You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4896 days, 10 hours, 30 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
> I've written 219 kilobytes of inane drivel. That's not a guide, that's a novel! I'm going to try typing up a few KB's on a troll guide pretty soon. It will take a lot of testing though, due to it being a 'race' based guide, instead of a class based guide. It won't be finished soon. I also plan to zip through the game, once as a melee troll, and once as a spellcasting troll. That should refresh my memories a bit, for each play style. I will probably write the guide with two distinct sections, for melee and spellcasters. It will be easier (but maybe less informative) than giving advice for each class respectively. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4067 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
Excellent. Maybe we'll actually manage to get more new stuff in 2008 than we had in 2007 :) You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Kingsdragon Registered user You smelt it you dealt it! Last page view: 5769 days, 14 hours, 53 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
>I also plan to zip through the game, once as a melee troll, and once as a spellcasting troll. Not only is leveling up going to be a horror for you but your spellcasting troll is gonna have a hellaluva of a hard time :S Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife XD |
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zv Registered user Last page view: 5659 days, 8 hours, 28 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Guide to melee trolls : take the heaviest weapon you can find and carry and bash things with it. Guide to spellcaster trolls : take the heaviest weapon you can find (Strength of Atlas!) and bash things with. You can also lighten up dark rooms. |
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Kingsdragon Registered user You smelt it you dealt it! Last page view: 5769 days, 14 hours, 53 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
I'm playing with the idea of a gnomish paladin/fighter.... I defenitly want to play a gnomish something as I haven't tried that race before. Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife XD |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4067 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
zv: The fact that you can DARKEN rooms with a spellcaster troll should be seen as the crucial advantage! You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5663 days, 3 hours, 7 minutes and 44 seconds ago. |
With the abbreviations, ! or ? or \ and such refer to the items, so they're potions, scrolls and wands.. SoCR, scrolls of chaos resistance(?oCR) PoCC, potion of cure corruption(!oCC) PoGA, potion of gain attributes WoWi, wand of wishing("Wowwaweewa! Very nice! I like.") WoD, wand of destruction GoGS, girdle of giant strength 7lb, SLB, seven league boots RDSM, red dragon scale mail RoDS, ring of djinni summoning RoHK/RotHK, ring of the high kings AoLS, amulet of life saving Maybe there's a more thorough list somewhere that I don't know about.. Did you use up all the charges from your wand of wishing? Did you try zapping it after it was empty, with 0 charges? Something might happen if you do that. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4067 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
There's a more thorough list in the guidebook, but that's most of the most important ones. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Kingsdragon Registered user You smelt it you dealt it! Last page view: 5769 days, 14 hours, 53 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Argh, can't get past the stair blocked with fire *cross look* Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife XD |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 3 hours, 42 minutes and 36 seconds ago. |
Get the fire orb. Khelevaster, the sage, told you where it is (Fire tower in the wilderness). Remember to protect yourself and everything you own from fire. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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