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Sardaukar Registered user Last page view: 5602 days, 22 hours, 22 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
I have a feeling that some races suffer more from bleeding hits than others. I am playing extensively Drakelings nowadays and they seem to me to get *a lot* more bleeding from hits than others. Anyone feeling same ? |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4869 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
It does seem to me that trolls have little trouble with bleeding. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4211 days, 18 hours and 19 seconds ago. |
Drakelings have a tendency to start with very poor equipment, so it could just be a result of that you're seeing. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Kingsdragon Registered user You smelt it you dealt it! Last page view: 5743 days, 40 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
Elf's tend to bleed a lot, specially High elf's... Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife XD |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4040 days, 18 hours, 42 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
It also may be toughness dependent. Elves have low toughness... You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Kingsdragon Registered user You smelt it you dealt it! Last page view: 5743 days, 40 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
Yea, I just hate it when one of those vamps hit you and it goes DOWN arghh Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife XD |
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Sardaukar Registered user Last page view: 5602 days, 22 hours, 22 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
I don't think it depends on Toughness. Drakelings usually have high To. Nor armour seem to have much effect per se. Had lately Dr Barbarian with elven chain mail overall PV 15 and Dr Priest with overall PV 10, both seemed to be very vulnerable to bleeding. First had from startTo: 26 !, latter To:19. Seemed almost that every 3rd hit bypassing armour caused bleeding. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 5/3/2008 at 09:39 (GMT -5) by Sardaukar] |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5636 days, 12 hours, 54 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
Just train up your first aid skill in the early game, people :) Also avoid the rooms which have blood stains in them. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Sardaukar Registered user Last page view: 5602 days, 22 hours, 22 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
I find First Aid to be next to useless before it is above 40 or so. |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3089 days, 13 hours, 29 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
I used First Aid like 50 times in my whole ADOM career. That's like 5 times a year ;P A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Maul Registered user [banned user] Last page view: 4900 days, 18 hours, 26 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
I use it all the time. Heh... 1l= Y0(_) [4l\l R34[) 7l-l15, Y0(_) l\/l(_)57 83 PR377Y G00[). |
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Jhonka Registered user Kickass player Last page view: 5328 days, 18 hours and 3 seconds ago. |
.. so do i. 'A'pplying first aid after a critical hit from gm has saved more chars than i can count! First aid can restore 100+ hp in one turn after a crit hit, so it's far from useless. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4211 days, 18 hours and 19 seconds ago. |
It.... what? I've never seen that before. Will have to try more often... Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4869 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Wouldn't 'A'ppying first aid, right after a CRITICAL hit from a GREATER MOLOCH be a bit risky? Yes, switching your tactics to coward would help, but if you just had your HP's drastically reduced, wouldn't it make more sense to just teleport, or maybe just run away. Use a PoEH at least! I don't think I would ever have the nerve to risk the life one of my high-level PC's... on the first aid skill. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Maul Registered user [banned user] Last page view: 4900 days, 18 hours, 26 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
After getting hit, you can still step back and apply first aid. You can always use first aid for a few turns after a hit. 1l= Y0(_) [4l\l R34[) 7l-l15, Y0(_) l\/l(_)57 83 PR377Y G00[). |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5636 days, 12 hours, 54 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
First aid works kinda weird, it heals hp based on the amount of damage you just took. So after a big hit from a GM for 300-400 damage first aid can give plenty of hp back. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4211 days, 18 hours and 19 seconds ago. |
Tested it out and without much luck in this. Still not a useful skill really, since by that stage of the game you'd have other more reliable forms of healing. And really, there's no reason to ever be hit by a GM. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4040 days, 18 hours, 42 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
Well, after a GM hit you do have a turn free usually because of your superior speed. You could save a blessed !oEH by using level 100 First Aid then. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4869 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Exactly when are you guys fighting these greater molochs, VD 2? I think that by the time most players encounter GREATER MOLOCHS, their piety should be off the charts. Prayers shame any other form of healing, and they are cheap. I don't think you can drink anything, or 'A'pply any skill, when you are stunned. Which you certainly may be, after getting smashed by a GM for ~300 HP. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Maul Registered user [banned user] Last page view: 4900 days, 18 hours, 26 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
But, unlike any other method, using First Aid is completely FREE. Free of risks as well, unless you are in a corridor and have another moloch on the other side. Nothing better than 100 free hitpoints in one turn. As for the stunning bit... provided that you didn't have stun resistance already, that example may be exempt from the use of FA of course. 1l= Y0(_) [4l\l R34[) 7l-l15, Y0(_) l\/l(_)57 83 PR377Y G00[). |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4869 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
So a GM hits you, bringing your HP's from 500 to 200. You step back, 'A'pply first aid, recover 100 HP's to bring your total HP's to 300. Now what? You re-engage the GM in pitched combat once more? That's fine if you have a death wish, but if you don't, you would still have to use other means of healing. Which renders first aid (once more) ultimately useless. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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vogonpoet Registered user Last page view: 4929 days, 1 hour, 31 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
Did gut just argue *for* appealing to ones God? I thought you were kinda atheist dude... |
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Maul Registered user [banned user] Last page view: 4900 days, 18 hours, 26 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
Gut - If you run away, you might find a safe spot and recover. In that case, you'd need neither. But you might not always be able to find a safe spot before you get attacked again - maybe by something else. For this case, I repeat, First Aid is completely FREE. 1l= Y0(_) [4l\l R34[) 7l-l15, Y0(_) l\/l(_)57 83 PR377Y G00[). |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4869 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
vogonpoet: > Did gut just argue *for* appealing to ones God? I don't do it in my games (unless I'm playing a pathetically weak PC ), but I can't say it's not the best form of healing in the game. It's also extremely cheap. I don't know how cheap, as I don't do it enough to know. I do know that you start out with two prayers, and that's before your diety is even 'very pleased' with you. If I had to guess, I would say maybe 1000 gold per early game prayer. It might be more expensive though, as your exp. level rises. vogonpoet: > I thought you were kinda atheist dude... I still use altars for equipment status ID, doom removal, and the option of crowning, with all of my PC's. Maul: > If you run away, you might find a safe spot and > recover. You mean 'w5'ing. In an environment that is so corrupting, that it has GM's in it! No thank you. By the time you are fighting GM's, you should have abundant gold and piety already, so cost is of no concern. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |