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Sulangatori Registered user Tourist Last page view: 1440 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
Was at the top of the tower with no equipment in backpack and stoma weared out. Began to starve, so I thought "ok, lets just die", took about 100 turns on starving mode before this guy finally went out. Anyone else experience this long of starving period? Must say that it felt extremely good walking through the tower without the annoying messages displaying every turn. just wandered about killing things and feeling good - until I began to starve. |
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Timpen Registered user za za zaa za zaa Last page view: 5769 days, 22 hours, 12 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Haven't survived very long time with starvation, one time I died really really quick, a turn or two after strength hit rock bottom. The risk to die of starvation is a percentage so it is possible to play a whole game while being starving. Si vis pacem, para bellum |
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 Maul Registered user [banned user] Last page view: 4926 days, 20 hours, 59 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
I think that you can observe the stat drains starving does on you - once toughness or whatever goes down by a big amount (to some single digit number) you drop dead. Not sure. 1l= Y0(_) [4l\l R34[) 7l-l15, Y0(_) l\/l(_)57 83 PR377Y G00[). |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4237 days, 20 hours, 33 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Your food comsumption rate depends on a lot of things like artifacts, race, class, invis items, burden level etc. Normally once you start starving your strength goes so low that you become strained, making it even worse. I think without any modifiers it takes 50 turns to starve, but I'm not sure exactly. Were you a monk or farmer by any chance? Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Sulangatori Registered user Tourist Last page view: 1440 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
Dwarven bard. You think immune to pain could have anything to do with it? Probably not. Wearing ankh and orb. |
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DeSt Registered user Last page view: 5613 days, 12 hours, 59 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
Eating 10+ stomaceptia sets "starved" status. From that moment you can play safe w/o need to eat for entire game. One problem - terrible stats, even thougth they better than when penalties from starvation maxed. To unchanged but i'm assuming that it heavily abused over time. St can be easily trained naturally, Wi & Dx w/a herbs(eating them(except for stomafilia) wont change status). Only Le is real problem. |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4895 days, 22 hours, 50 minutes and 14 seconds ago. |
Sulangatori: > Began to starve, so I thought "ok, lets just die", Don't you think, that was giving up a bit too easy. You could have prayed, maybe killed some goons for a possible corpse. Something. Sulangatori: > Anyone else experience this long of starving period? What I notice, when exploiting the 'starvation' status, is that there is no danger of death, as long as the St stat keeps decreasing. If your St stat is high, it will take a long time, for it to drop to a level where it stops decreasing. Once it stops decreasing, you don't have many turns left, before you are dead. DeSt: > Eating 10+ stomaceptia sets "starved" status. From that > moment you can play safe w/o need to eat for entire game Never heard of that before. If I eat 10+ stomacemptia, I don't have to eat, ever again. Strange. DeSt: > St can be easily trained naturally, Wi & Dx w/a herbs > (eating them(except for stomafilia) wont change status). Doesn't eating a single morgia root, 'un-starve' you? Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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DeSt Registered user Last page view: 5613 days, 12 hours, 59 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
Oh, indeed. Tested only with first herb found - pepper petal, iirc. |
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Sulangatori Registered user Tourist Last page view: 1440 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
Must have been strength stat then, was perhaps a bit high. As for praying, I am afraid I have developed a somewhat peculiar trait. I cannot make myself pray or save the game. This is not any challenge of any kind, although I think it might have started out that way. No I have the same feeling for praying and saving as I had for save-scumming back in the days. I'm not saying it's wrong, I just can't make myself do it. Worst thing is when I'm too quick to click "shift+ : + anything" and accidently pray. Many promising characters lost and annoying as hell. |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4895 days, 22 hours, 50 minutes and 14 seconds ago. |
I did that with Rhea. Couldn't kill her, though could I : ) Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5140 days, 2 hours, 27 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
You can actually watch the progress by keeping an eye on all 4 stats - St, Wi, Dx and Le - dropping. When all stop dropping you may die. I once did a test and was surprised by how long it took to die after they were at rock bottom. Around 60 turns, sightly random. At Starving: Immediately causes -5 St drop. Then nothing will happen for some turns. Then stats will gradually go down as turns tick by. It might be that if your stats are high, they take longer to drop down. And after stats are at bottom, you might get 60 turns before death. Not in the wilderness, though! I also used starvation on Rhea - to use a crystal of knowledge when her learning was 24 or so. Starved till it dropped under 20, then used gem. Great success. |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4066 days, 21 hours, 15 minutes and 28 seconds ago. |
After the nutrition has dropped to zero, there's a chance you might die every turn. You might get lucky and survive for longer, or you might get unlucky and die really early. No way to tell. Turns in the wilderness probably count as more than one turn for starvation. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Lurking Nezur Unregistered user |
>Turns in the wilderness probably count as more than one turn for starvation. At least for torches moving one square in the wilderness causes 30 turns to pass. It's a bit weird that you can wield burning torches in both your hands while having one in the tool slot as well. The extra area lit is triple compared to the lighting provided by just one burning torch. |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4895 days, 22 hours, 50 minutes and 14 seconds ago. |
Do you mean that using three torches in that way, extends your visible radius further than just using one in the tool slot? Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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mozzy tunes Unregistered user |
it's been years since i've posted in these forums. used to have the name mozzy. got into a d2 craze a few years back, hehe. anyway, good to see these forums still up and running. the starving status is an old trick from years ago. i remember one of the girls here posted about it. iridia i think her name was. eat lots of cursed stomacepia, usually takes 15-20 for me. then walk around a few steps and after that eat 4 or 5 morgia. sometimes this does take you back to starving. just eat a few more stomacepia, then walk around a bit more and then try to eat again. it should work after that. keep status at strained (with no question) mark for best str results. can get to 30 str, 30 will, 40 dex, 25 tough this way easily. make sure you eat 2 blessed stoma once you stop the starving process. you can die in ONE game turn! this has happened unfortunately. have them at the ready and don't move a muscle unless you want to drop dead. btw i ust started playing agian, just closed the gate with an elf necro. really easy win :) |
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mozzy tunes Unregistered user |
i meant strained not strained! also, status changes to starved when you've eaten enough cepia. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4237 days, 20 hours, 33 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
A dangerous tactic to be sure, though it is reasonably well-known now. I think someone posted before about getting their dex to around 74 using starvation and killer bug corpses. Sickness abuse is a little safer, even if it doesn't achieve the same high results. Welcome back to the forums - good to see you haven't lost your skills either! Come join the new group challenge game if you think you're hard enough ;P Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 5/15/2008 at 22:25 (GMT -5) by Darren Grey] |
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Mozzy Tunes Registered user Last page view: 5757 days, 11 hours, 55 minutes and 59 seconds ago. |
is that still going on? i saw that post. yeah let me in on that what do i need to do? |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4237 days, 20 hours, 33 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Your word here is good enough, as long as you've read and understood all the rules etc. The game will start Saturday and new threads will be created then covering everything. (love the Avatar by the way) Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 5/15/2008 at 22:42 (GMT -5) by Darren Grey] |
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Mozzy Tunes Registered user Last page view: 5757 days, 11 hours, 55 minutes and 59 seconds ago. |
hehe thanks, yeah i posted on that thread so i'm in. :) |
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Nezur Registered user Overlord of Jak-Aragth Last page view: 5812 days, 18 hours, 56 minutes and 22 seconds ago. |
gut: >Do you mean that using three torches in that way, >extends your visible radius further than just >using one in the tool slot? Exactly. I've tested it. |
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Sulangatori Registered user Tourist Last page view: 1440 days, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
Yes, it works. Can be quite useful sometimes, and initially you find the tiny girl and sheriff without any effort at all (which sometimes can be a nuisance). |