Ancient Domains Of Mystery, forum overview / Spoilers / approximate minimum on -HP?
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JHB Unregistered user |
OK, stupid question of the day/week/month: What would have to be done in order to obtain the lowest possible hit point total, in terms of negative hit point magnitude? I'm guessing it would either be done by a low-level character casting a wish...either that or a group of moloch-armor-clad greater molochs ganging up on a character. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4233 days, 15 hours, 16 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
Possibly a wizard overchargning a wand? It does nasty things. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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moomoo Registered user Last page view: 5378 days, 20 hours, 12 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
I have no idea on the actual -amount you can get but I once wen't pretty damn low with a fumbled magic missile on D:50. So much fun. |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3593 days, 17 hours, 39 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
I guess the lowest you could get would be a wizard with 99 Wi casting Magic Missile with extremely high effectivity (over 100) in a tunnel. About 40 Wi with ~30 effectivity took me down to -200. For the Horde! |
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Jhonka Registered user Kickass player Last page view: 5350 days, 15 hours, 16 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
I went to -several thousands with greater moloch in smc bashing my naked char |
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Sylph Unregistered user |
Surely casting wish and exhausting yourself would beat a few hundred? |
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h Unregistered user |
Try kicking a wall while wearing =oWeakness. |
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psy_wombats Registered user Untitled Last page view: 5330 days, 13 hours, 13 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
I'll second the GMs wearing moloch armor while the character is wearing -PV equipment. WHEN WOMBATS STRIKE! Enjoy your last days... |
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Jhonka Registered user Kickass player Last page view: 5350 days, 15 hours, 16 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
If gm is wearing a moloch armor, the chars pv won't make a difference :> |
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tipo mastr Registered user Last page view: 5627 days, 16 hours, 7 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
How about a PC with 99 Ma firing a wand of far slaying in a corridor? [Edited 1 time, last edit on 10/14/2008 at 22:52 (GMT -5) by tipo mastr] |
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Aragorn Registered user Last page view: 4853 days, 38 minutes and 43 seconds ago. |
Kicking a wall while wearing =oWeakness would be a winner. I got around -50000 or so HP. I think this is a bug. |
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psy_wombats Registered user Untitled Last page view: 5330 days, 13 hours, 13 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
No kidding... Though it would be interesting to get into position after wishing for the EM, then cast Slow Monster and get to Overburdened! with spd- equipment on... Boots of the Slow Shuffle anyone? WHEN WOMBATS STRIKE! Enjoy your last days... |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3111 days, 10 hours, 46 minutes and 5 seconds ago. |
The PC's speed has no influence on the moloch wearing moloch armour. The bug does not increase their speed, but gives them a one time bonus to their energy. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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moomoo Registered user Last page view: 5378 days, 20 hours, 12 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
Is it a certain death to witness this event? I've never seen it happen, actually I've maybe once seen a moloch armor. Just in case it sometimes happens so I know what to do. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 10/17/2008 at 03:19 (GMT -5) by moomoo] |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3892 days, 13 hours, 32 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
it's not certain death. As Maelstrom said, the molochs get a one time bonus to their energy, If you manage to get away, teleport somewhere safe and far away from the moloch and just wait "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Jhonka Registered user Kickass player Last page view: 5350 days, 15 hours, 16 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
does the moloch energy boost wear off eventually? I waited for some dozen turns behind a river and atleast at that point the GM was still moving some 10 tiles/(my)turn. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5658 days, 10 hours, 11 minutes and 13 seconds ago. |
I don't think it's any sort of boost, but a game bug. The molochs speed is so low that equipping the armour would make it negative, but instead it wraps around into a big number. So kind of like the bug with piety. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3111 days, 10 hours, 46 minutes and 5 seconds ago. |
Energy wears off by definition :P Speed is how much energy you get per in-game turn, your actions deplete that energy (1000 per action by default). Molochs get a giant boost, but they still have a speed of 60-something, so they just move as fast as it's possible until they run out. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5658 days, 10 hours, 11 minutes and 13 seconds ago. |
So it really is a feature? This one monster equipping one item gives them superpowers, what's the logic behind that. IMO the bug definition sounds more plausible but if it's supposed to be that way then I guess that's ok too. Heh, quite a topic derail again, happens on these boards a lot I think. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 10/17/2008 at 19:47 (GMT -5) by J.] |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3111 days, 10 hours, 46 minutes and 5 seconds ago. |
Happens to whatever topic I post in, it's a feature of mine, not a bug ;P The boost is a bug, but one that should have been fixed and was, but it didn't work - at least that what it looks like now. I recall that the speed of the moloch didn't change if you looked him up in monster memory. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4062 days, 15 hours, 59 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
In earlier times I guess it was a speed underflow - the fix made it a one-time boost, which is unfortunately usually enough to still kill the PC, but if one can get in a teleport to a safe place, he can at least wait until the moloch in question has used up all of his boost. You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5658 days, 10 hours, 11 minutes and 13 seconds ago. |
So it's a bug-turned-into-feature? Wow. Is there a special warning message you get when a GM equips a moloch armour? If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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moomoo Registered user Last page view: 5378 days, 20 hours, 12 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
the greater moloch hits you x18 ... you die I'm betting that one, if you miss the equip bit. Tho I think this is a problem for the reckless "hold that button down while berserking greater molochs" people. (no, not me) |