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 littlebrather Registered user Last page view: 4803 days, 1 hour, 48 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
I think that staves are a monk weapons - he couldn't wear any shield without own-DV loss, but with quarterstaff he will get more DV then anybody in adom can (40+33=73)! My own try was hurtling monk with different Hi-metal quarterstaves - maybe quicksilver would also works well but unfortunately didn't found any... Does anybody tries this way? until it sleep |
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psy_wombats Registered user Untitled Last page view: 5335 days, 23 hours and 18 minutes ago. |
Wait, is that greater than a maxed Shields skill with Protector, in addition to a spear? (Can't remember the numbers right now) WHEN WOMBATS STRIKE! Enjoy your last days... |
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littlebrather Registered user Last page view: 4803 days, 1 hour, 48 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
spear gives +22, shields +30+18 (protector - the best variant) 70<73 =) but training shield + polemarms costs two times more points then staves! (in additional DV from staff would train even in Berserk mode) also using staff will never make you burdened while fine cristall shield will =) until it sleep |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5141 days, 7 hours and 16 minutes ago. |
Monks are a pretty good class for using 2-handers with. DV bonus is level-dependant, though, so you can start out with a good DV even with a brand new weapon class. For that matter, why not use regular two-handed sword? DV is covered, they will let you really lay down the smack. Quicksilver gives +speed, monks got that covered too |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4239 days, 1 hour, 21 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
For ultimate DV then the best is spear and shield and smithed up heavy armour (monks would lose their bonus on that). Of course such stat-conciousness is quite boring - the best is whatever you find and make good use of. The main problem with staves in real practise is finding a good one. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5141 days, 7 hours and 16 minutes ago. |
Smithed-up armor should be equal - elven chain mail can be smithed up to infinity, just like anything else. Shield users can also pick up some talents for an extra +6 DV. |
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littlebrather Registered user Last page view: 4803 days, 1 hour, 48 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
Ordinary 2H-sword isn't as good as barehanded monk -class power, instakills and (sometimes) circular kick are better, in additional U don't need any traning - level bonuses are pretty good =) but sometimes monk (and any other class to) need as much DV as they can have - for example firing missiles or casting under attack - and... it's a miracle... monks are pretty god in both this ways =) in that case IMO staves are the best of the best - they easy to train, light (in compare with armor+shield+spear), nice quicksilver Qtrstf also gives too much speed. U can even smith with them but it's may be for roleplaying =) And then U have really hard simple power fight, U will off ur staff and fight like a man =) then U has in other case not as simple opponent, and need smart fight - wear ur staff and use ur bow or spells =) until it sleep |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5141 days, 7 hours and 16 minutes ago. |
Circular kick is useless. And can anyway be used while wielding. Instakills happen when wielding, too. Using a stave is a quick, easy way to high DV. And very much roleplay-like too. Idea for a themed game, perhaps. At level 20 you will do a lot more damage with an eternium two-handed sword, 6d5+18 vs 1d28+5 barehanded. Not hard to loot one from Darkforge, usually. Better damage from weapon skill, too. (At level 50 you might do more damage with a sword if it had the right pre- and/or suffix.) To quote civ4 fanatics: "Play the map, not the PC" As in use what you find/get. |
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littlebrather Registered user Last page view: 4803 days, 1 hour, 48 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
>Circular kick is useless. And can anyway be used while wielding. While wielding it's damage 1d4 unfortunately... To Hit modifier is higher in barehanded mode in compare with any weapon Big minus of barehanded IMO - no slaying modifiers are available which can be found on some artifact weapons, but monks has no such artifacts in their crowning gifts. Yes, finding good weapon should change the whole game, but I want to say that monks have to pay more attention on staves, especially if their playing style is based on spells/missiles until it sleep |
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Chaos Biscut Unregistered user |
Circle kick is useless? nah uhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Better than the fighter lvl 50 one. also if you have a pet next to you and u circle kick it asks if you 'really want to attack <foo>) select no and your circle kick is free, no energy. And monks kick hard. Also. booo to weapons, your a monk. puss. |
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littlebrather Registered user Last page view: 4803 days, 1 hour, 48 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
>select no and your circle kick is free, no energy. Do U mean monk still kick enemies when U select No? In Monk Guide were a lot of words about CK look where, myself I'm totally agree with them. until it sleep |