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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
I was trying Dark Elf assasins, but they keep dying at low lvls (maybe it's my darn luck - half of them died of a purple "j" created by a corruption trap). Can someone tell me - what race will the best for an assasin (Dark elves double Find weakness, alertness and climbing)? A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6968 days, 3 hours, 18 minutes and 16 seconds ago. |
Try a dwarf. If you're lucky to get a decent learning score, it can be a kick-ass character. I had a very good dwarven assasin, but I can't remember what killed him. Probably something stupid, as usual. |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
A dwarf? Thanks. This time i got an Assasin that had 25 dex and 17 Le but he died on UD:7 - tension room full of powerfull monsters...my adamantium Halbred that i've found wasn't enough - only 54 hp :( I'll try a Dwarf - maybe this time he'll live through the UD - most of my characters that live after a start like that are realy good (like my only winner who killed the Muli-headed Chaos dragon at lvl 18 :) ) A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Jan Erik Administrator Last page view: 2 days, 5 hours, 2 minutes and 24 seconds ago. |
Problem with dark elfs are the slow healing rate and low HP. Makes the early game very hard when you loose half your HP in each hit and have to wait for days for it to heal back up... Jan Erik Mydland HoF admin |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
I play the game since Gamma 8 and Dark Elf Barbarian was my only win. But i also had one Dark elf Ranger who got killed in the Mana Temple (forgot Death Ray resistance...). Just my favorite race (Dwarves are good, but they don't eat orcs - and those "o" leave the most corpses - they get easly starved in the UD). My first Dwarven Assasin got cursed&doomed by a Rainbowlizard (it was grey when i attacked it... damn!) and killed soon after that... back to the start:D A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
This one is made to be a winner! Le 22, Book star sing (gives me 6 skill advances per lvl), an Adamantium 2-H Sword in the SMC at lvl 1 :D If he doesn win then i'm a lausy player ;P A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6968 days, 3 hours, 18 minutes and 16 seconds ago. |
I once had a trollish healer (Candle sign of course :-) ) who found eternium 2H sword in SMC. A werewolf lord killed him at the bottom of PC :(. |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
THe PC is over - i've found an [+1, +8] Elven chain mail on UD:3, and [+2,+1] Helm of mental stability at UD:5. And the potion of brooze that a baggar gave me The fool exaganged in to Blessed Potion of Gain Attributes :D - this char has too much luck :))) Anninis hag, anninis hag - the dwarf wants me to kill one :/ - no pre-crown this time, i'm going to the pyramid. (BTW Le is now 25 :) - 7 skills per lvl :D) A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
She's dead:( - overwhelmed by Killer bugs (how do they now i was there? I'M INVISIBLE!!! But i didn't noticed that i was cursed:/ ) and still no annins hag:( - i'll submit Nightlilly the Dwarven Assasin as soon as i write the story. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5764 days, 15 hours, 15 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Maybe you attacked the bugs in melee combat? That would let them know where you were. Or maybe you cast a ball spell. Bolt spells don't alert the bugs to your existence, but ball spells do. I don't think being cursed has anything to do with whether they notice you, although it makes them hit harder once they do. I hate killer bugs too, unless I'm playing the kind of mage that can simply bolt them to death. I think they're going to take out my current Dwarven Weaponsmith. He ran out of bolt spells and started using a combination of melee and Improved Fireball - but it seems that Improved Fireball lets the bugs find you - why? Now he's reduced to invoking the powers of the Water Orb in order to survive. I had to go to work and leave him, but I'll submit him whatever happens. |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
I backstabbed all greater claw bugs, and then zapped a wand of acid at the killers - and they found me :( - in one turn 4 of them lowered my hp to 3 from 245 and when i prayed 2 more came :/ A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5764 days, 15 hours, 15 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Well, I lived :-) It turned out I was closer to having taken out all the bugs that knew about me than I thought, and it only took one prayer to get me through them. Then I just sneaked into the temple and smashed the statues before killing the remaining bugs in melee, carefully, one bug at a time. EDIT: I died to a greater moloch later, though, and I was so shocked that I forgot to write out a .flg file. I don't think I've got the hang of keeping fighter types alive in the late game yet. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 8/31/2002 at 14:25 (GMT -5) by Ekaterin] |
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Machino85 Registered user Legendary Save Scummer Last page view: 7907 days, 7 hours, 9 minutes and 28 seconds ago. |
Bugs will not attack in the dark. Soooo, a few applications of the spell (or wand or scroll) can gain a PC quit a few levels in the Bug Temple, not to mention some massive weapon skills. But sadly, no sheild marks. As for a great character, a level 25 grey elven wizard of mine once found a [+5, +4] robe -2AP. But, I did not care about the Ap loss, I was quite ugly by that time (6 eyes, hooves, etc.). |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
[+5,+4] ROBE at lvl 25?! Sorry to say it but it sounds pathetic to me - The best i've found was a [+5,+15] red dragon scale mail, and a [-20,+55] moloch armour (no atlas spell no moloch armour). But the bug/darkness thing is usefull (i killed Blups mom in the dark - it took a long time :P) - thanks! next time i will cast darkness :P A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Jan Erik Administrator Last page view: 2 days, 5 hours, 2 minutes and 24 seconds ago. |
+5 +4 is still pretty amazing for a robe... Though you are right, a level 25 character would probably have access to something that offer much better overall protection (even the mummy wrapping is better and it give a tonne of resistances and imunities to boot)... Jan Erik Mydland HoF admin |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
a robe can be destroyed or damaged by anything - a killer bug would make it a [5,0] robe in one turn or destroyed it. At lvl 25 i usually am after Darkforge, so i have better protection. (but once the only armors in the room where clothes, robes and furs... but he had lots of eterinium weapons and scorched spear so i did not kill the poor dwarf ;)) A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Guinea Registered user tWo-HeAdEd cHaOs WeAsEl Last page view: 6968 days, 3 hours, 18 minutes and 16 seconds ago. |
I just had a [0,7] leather armor, but I met a living wall and said goodbye to my char. Damn. |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7761 days, 10 hours, 37 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
Bugs are easy kiled by thiefs or assasins backstab. But before enter to bug temple PC must hunting for some bugs corpse on the surface. Archer is the best noncaster character to killing bugs, high dexterity. Ofcorse they must be invisibility "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
I was killed ON-THE-SURFACE! Why did i attack the Killers? They where duplcating so fast that by the time i would get 99 Dex i would have a map full of grey "i". Anyone can backstab the bugs - i've done that with barbarians of all kinds, DE Rangers, a couple of Paladins and Priests. Archers... Not only them - if i would have more quirrels of a better crossbow (like Far Slayer - the best artefact there is IMHO :D) they would be no problem - but i only had rust quirrels and a (+3,+3) heavy crossbow. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7761 days, 10 hours, 37 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
Spoiler First try drink potions of boost speed "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" [Edited 1 time, last edit on 9/17/2002 at 03:35 (GMT -5) by BM] |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
Yea -it would help all right - against 15 killer bugs who know where you are :/ I was too weak 4 bugville - All a person needs there is a high DV and HP. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7761 days, 10 hours, 37 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
Nope.... Spoiler When your PC is really fast bugs multiple very slow. First try kill greater bugs, when you ate few corpse you will have a really chance to kill killer bugs. But you must be on invis "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3754 days, 18 hours, 24 minutes and 8 seconds ago. |
Better yet: PCs with the Cooking and/or Food Pres. skill can take the bugs to the HMV shop, sell them for safekeeping, and eat them later. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
Take a look at the flg od that character - all Greater bugs where dead - those 15 killer are all what was left on the surface (after that, one can safely walk around killing the newly spawn bugs). A wand of acid bolt shouldn't reveal my location to them, but it did (i had invis.). And they all rushed at me. And what's the point with those black letters? This is the "spoiler" forum, so everyone here wants to get spoiled - otherwise they woulden't open it, right? A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Ryan Klein Unregistered user |
I just had a good game with a human assassin. I would think orcs would be better though. I just don't like using them *) |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7761 days, 10 hours, 37 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
elv assasin is nice. He has better stuff But humans have nice skill food preservation "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" [Edited 1 time, last edit on 9/19/2002 at 04:12 (GMT -5) by BM] |
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C Unregistered user |
The best race for me is the grey elf assasian, but I usually play necromancers or elementalists, I play grey elves for their mana. |
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Stuart Unregistered user |
Don't take on the killer bugs unless your speed is around 150. you might be able to survive one round of attacks, but not two (killer bug have a speed of around 150). BTW, what level do you normally go to the temple? |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3116 days, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
Me? The level, when i feel invincible :P My speed was good enough, it's just that instead of 8 killer there where 16 and growing so i had to take on them. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7761 days, 10 hours, 37 minutes and 39 seconds ago. |
it's depends what clas I play. But sometimes I go there before ToEF and Minotaur Maze... But sometimes I make bug vilage at the end of game... Or when I need SoChR;) "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" |