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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 4109 days, 3 hours, 38 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Can you sacrifice the orb guardians, and if you can, do they leave the orbs? "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Alex_ Unregistered user |
how would you sacrifice them exactly? I'd imagine that it would be impossible to sacrifice one without its leaving an orb. |
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 Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 17 hours, 29 minutes and 26 seconds ago. |
Im 95% sure you can sacrifice the guardians, but they scoot there way around the altars like the Hill Orcs do. Oh, and dont forget youll be drawn towards the altars alignment unless your a crowned champion. And yes, sacrificed monsters always leave their items. |
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Majin Registered user Pierced Last page view: 7522 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
About 2 adom versions ago i sacced the ancient chaos wyrm, not on the chaos altar at the top of the ToEF, but on the Lawful altar i had luckily found on the previous level, so it is possible to sac the guardians, but you wont get nearly as much exp for them. What do you Wish for?_ |
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killer Unregistered user |
uhhh.... how do u sacrifice someone? |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 17 hours, 29 minutes and 26 seconds ago. |
Wait till they are walking over an Altar you can see, and press Shift-O Thats the letter O, not a zero. Its a good idea to make sure the Altar is the same alignment as you though |
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Larrack Unregistered user |
Well, first, it IS a good idea to make sure you know what alignment the altar is. If it is the same as you, then even heroes with low piety can sacrifice quite happily. The only exception seems to be chaotic heroes with chaotic altars trying to sacrifice chaotic creatures more powerful than themselves (ie orb guardians) The two general rules are: 1) Never, EVER, sacrifice a creature that it is either of your alignment or the alignment of the altar. 2) If you must use an altar that is not of your alignment, have a high piety level. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5875 days, 16 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
Chaotics can sacrifice chaotics with no penalty, chaotic gods don't care. Orcs, goblins and basically every monster who can speak will also sacrifice you whenever they get the chance. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3328 days, 51 minutes and 30 seconds ago. |
Not only chaotic NPC will do that - imagine my precrowned/going for a second precrowning char getting sacrificed by a barbarian (neutral), because I mistook it for a berzerker(chaotic) and stood on a neutral altar... Ratlings, barbarian/-leaders, cavemen - those neutral NPC can speak and kill you in one of the most annoying ways. Lawful chars also can sacrifice you if hostile, so beware of those postal dwarves ;P A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Kryllion Registered user Last page view: 7253 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
Other than the "know alignment" spell, how exactly are you supposed to know the alignment of the monsters? I always find it easier to play chaotic characters, 'cuz then I can sacrifice pretty much anything that's alive. But when I'm N- or higher, I have a heckuva time trying to figure out who I can and can't sac. ~Kryllion~ Master of the Screeching Humanling |
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mopgoblin Registered user Last page view: 7167 days, 9 hours, 21 minutes and 56 seconds ago. |
I reckon being lawful is better. Lawful monsters are fairly rare and easily recognised, plus you don't have to be so careful not to step on the altar you're using. |
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Warlord* Unregistered user |
The Paladin's special ability is other way. Then it is easy most animals are neutral, goblins, orcs, trolls etc chaotic. Dwarves, blink dogs beggars are lawful. |
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Egg King Unregistered user |
Ive tried to sac the Snake from beyond and no it doesnt work (I mean come on! thats the most chessy way of killing a boss Ive heard of, shame on you for thinking it! Ok so I actually tried it:) I believe the message is along the lines of... "GET THAT THING AWAY FROM ME!" Yeah you all think I'm joking but try it. |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 17 hours, 29 minutes and 26 seconds ago. |
i just tried it in my most recent game and got something in chaos speak. The altar was still black of course. Said something about how the servant was more usefull than you, why didnt i just step on the altar sacrifice myself |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3966 days, 14 hours, 6 minutes and 28 seconds ago. |
Ah, so you can't sac orb guardians. Good to know. Unless, perhaps, you converted the altar to L/N first? Of course that would be hard to do with the orb guardian still around to sac you at the first opportunity; and you'd have to be a crowned champion of course. Die Gedanken sind Frei [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/18/2004 at 05:47 (GMT -5) by Iridia] |
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Majin Registered user Pierced Last page view: 7522 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Mabey you need to sac it on an altar which is on a different level, ie not one of the chaos altars that the guardian hangs around. What do you Wish for?_ |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 1 minute and 47 seconds ago. |
Kryllion: try the guidebook http://www.andywlms.com/adom/adomgb-app-J.html What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Egg King Unregistered user |
Yeah It was a neutral altar that was one lvl up. You people never give up on cheesy ways do you? (The snakes not even that hard, the only one that gives me probs is the mana orb guardian) Though it sounds as if you get a different Msg depending on the align of the altar. |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 4109 days, 3 hours, 38 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
I didn't mean that the temples are too hard but I just liked to know if it was possible or not!!! "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Lurk Unregistered user |
*Hijacks thread* Does equiping the orbs cause corruption? |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 17 hours, 29 minutes and 26 seconds ago. |
No, just using. For a long time i didnt know putting one in the orb slot gave you the 10 stat boost :/ I thought you actually had to use it |
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Some guy Unregistered user |
95% of the time it's easy to guess what alignment a monster is, so you don't really need Know Alignment or the paladin power or the guidebook very badly. There are some messed up mosters, though... grey slayers are chaotic but according to monster memory are "fighters of balance". |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 1 minute and 47 seconds ago. |
Does anyone know if it's possible to smash the elemental altars (by kicking them, or by leading a moloch to them) If so what happens? What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Majin Registered user Pierced Last page view: 7522 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
You probally can smash them, but IIRC if you convert all of the elemental altars you'll get a wand of wishing when you face Andor (obviously only helpful if your going for an Ultra) What do you Wish for?_ |
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Jonesy Registered user Liberate Te Ex Inferis Last page view: 6716 days, 18 hours, 5 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
No, you don't, IIRC. "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."- Voltaire "Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven."- John Milton, Paradise Lost "Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth, follow only beauty, and obey only love."- Kahlil Gibran "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."- Voltaire. "What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."-Salman Rushdie |
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Majin Registered user Pierced Last page view: 7522 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Hmm... I'm sure i read that somewhere... *shrugs shoulders* oh well What do you Wish for?_ |
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Some guy Unregistered user |
By the way, you can also sacrifice yourself, by dropping all your stuff and then trying to sacrifice something. "You could probably sacrifice yourself. Do you want to do so? [y/n]y You strangle yourself on the altar. *your god* seems very displeased with you..." |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 17 hours, 29 minutes and 26 seconds ago. |
The gods of chaos laugh at your idiotic gesture. Its quite funny |
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Andor Drakon Registered user uummm... ElDeR cHaOs GoD? Last page view: 7511 days, 10 hours, 22 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
It's not even possible to strangle yourself... And your god should attempt to stop you from doing things that displease him. ChAoS iS cOmInG! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 17 hours, 29 minutes and 26 seconds ago. |
By doing what? Giving you a nice bolt of divine justice? Wouldnt that just end up killing you anyways. |
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