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NMBLNG Unregistered user |
Does anyone know how different undead differ in statistics? Also, does a bigger monster make a bigger zombie? (or skeleton, or wraith, ect...) I'm wondering If one should wait to find a good monster to make a pet or just pop up zombies all willy-nilly. And for curiosity:
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TheTimpen Registered user Last page view: 7060 days, 3 hours and 10 seconds ago. |
I think better monsters are better as zombies, otherwise I don't see why quickling lords and kings are popular as liches or vampires :) |
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Some guy Unregistered user |
Some monsters keep certain abilities as zombies, like regeneration and speed, of course, but I think that PV, DV, hits, attack power, etc. stays the same with the same kind of undead. Maybe a greater demon zombie could teleport... who knows, really. |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 42 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Slaves derive their speed, regeneration, and (I think) hitpoints from the corpse they were generated from. That's why quicklings are so good, they're the only thing that can keep up with the pc near the end of the game. They don't keep special abilities like teleportation. my quick slave rating: zombies, skeletons, wraiths, wights, mummies, shadows: crap ghuls: quite good, not that tough but they can paralyse corpse fiends: reasonably tough, and I think (not sure) they get better than normal hp regeneration skeleton warriors: awesome ie. totally sweet. plenty big damage and to-hit. ghosts, spectres, vampires, shadow lords, liches: Dunno, haven't survived long enough to get any. oh, and you can't use demon corpses. 'You need the corpse of a former living humanoid to work your dark magic.' What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Larrack Unregistered user |
Should necromancy be chaotic? I say no. I mean, all you're doing is taking the rotting, heavily mutilated body of some sentient being and giving it a semblance of life through your dark sacrifice. All you're doing is creating a shambling creature of decayed flesh, a mockery of life, that will cause revulsion and fear wherever it is seen. Nothing too bad. Not like -pickpocketing- |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3810 days, 8 hours, 25 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
But perhaps the purpose what it's created for is chaotic For the Horde! |
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illumi Unregistered user |
pickpocketing is not necessarily chaotic too ... the rationale is that you improve the economy by making a better use of the money in other people's pocket ... a quicker flow of money in the society will increase the general wealth by folds ... ^0^ |
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Hubris Unregistered user |
Lawful doesn't mean economical. You're taking a capitalistic view and assuming that it is a lawful one. And who says that our capitalist society in Adom would be L+? It might just be C+ or N- |
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Egg King Unregistered user |
Hey if you can bring a corpse back to life (err sort of)then it must be good. I mean all the monsters families now have their best uncle back to play with and just a small intellect loss is all they have to pay (And maybe being killed by him on a whim of his master) Yes I like to make my undead minions dance (Im surpised by how often and how much this amuses me:) So in my book its a lawful act (Small children love it:) If only I could make the cute puppy get down with its bad self....... |
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NMBLNG Unregistered user |
On the poll, I was hoping that in a later version of ADOM, there would be a division between evil and chaos. So that I can play a Necromancer and not worry about corruption. Back to zombie stats: Has anyone really proved this, or are we just guessing? So our best early-game choices for undead are: Trolls, ogers, and other big bashing mosters, for HP. Quicklings and pixies for speed, if possible. But a quickling king vampire sounds really cool. Or ghul. It could attack 12 times every round or more! |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7340 days, 12 hours, 54 minutes and 5 seconds ago. |
Actually, quickling bard liches seem to be considered the most K-cool of them all :-) But they're hard to get, and you can only get one :-) OTOH, a retinue of quickling queen skeletal warriors is quite unstoppable... Just don't let them get hostile, they're killers :-) Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5824 days, 12 hours, 59 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
Can orb guardian corpses (humanoid ones, naturally) be made into undead slaves ? I guess it would be fun having a Chaos Archmage lich as a slave. Or a Master Summoner lich. J. Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/16/2004 at 04:12 (GMT -5) by The Real J.] |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5875 days, 57 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
Humanoid slaying ammo works, so they should be considered as humanoids. Never tried that though, no idea. Archmage lich would be nice. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5824 days, 12 hours, 59 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
How about doing an ULE with a lawful crowned necromancer and having a Chaos Archmage lich and Master Summoner lich in tow ? Would it even be possible ? Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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Vulgar Registered user Necromantic Farmer Last page view: 4704 days, 22 hours, 39 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
Is necromancy chaotic? Do you find the act of reanimating a corpse against their will and to force them into slavery chaotic? I guess it's all a matter of opinion... Should I eat it or make it my undead slave? |
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Warlord* Unregistered user |
I call it evil, not chaotic |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5875 days, 57 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
Anyone tried the orb guardian corpses yet? J., have you asked about this on r.g.r.a? I'd ask, but I don't post there. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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 KoRn DogG Registered user I wanna kill Andy sooo bad... Last page view: 6600 days, 14 hours, 19 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
In ADOM, Necromancy is a minor chaotic act. And I am willing to bet the archmage and master summoner are able to be brought back to life, if you get their corpses. Use arrows of hunting or somthing and have a high food preservation skill. "I concur that we are both atheists. I just believe in one less god than you do. When you come to realize why you dismiss all the other possible gods out there, you will know why I dismiss yours. |
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all the orb gaurdians leave a corpse 100% of the time. |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 42 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
I'm playing a pretty good necromancer at the moment. I'll let you know when I get to Yulgash. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 42 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
GOD DAMN IT. talking about where your char will be later on = curse of instant death. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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 Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 18 hours, 9 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
at least tell us how he died |
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Danielle unlogged Unregistered user |
I SWEAR T.Biskup has programmed somethign into ADOM 1.1.1 to check if you posetd recently on the forums with the words "when" "help" "stuck" and then making you go uber doomed without telling you |
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KoRn DogG Registered user I wanna kill Andy sooo bad... Last page view: 6600 days, 14 hours, 19 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
I have a copy of a human assasin with a wand of wish with a few trillion charges (Which I use for tourist purposes), I will see if I can get it, but i won't be back on untill the day after tommorow. "I concur that we are both atheists. I just believe in one less god than you do. When you come to realize why you dismiss all the other possible gods out there, you will know why I dismiss yours. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 5/8/2004 at 16:54 (GMT -5) by KoRn DogG] |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 42 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
'at least tell us how he died' ACW. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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KoRn DogG Registered user I wanna kill Andy sooo bad... Last page view: 6600 days, 14 hours, 19 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
When you try to animate the org gaurdian corpses they turn to dust 100% of the time. I tried it with my human thief with a WoW with over 3 trillion charges and wished for necromancy till it was at 100%, but still nothing but dust. "I concur that we are both atheists. I just believe in one less god than you do. When you come to realize why you dismiss all the other possible gods out there, you will know why I dismiss yours. |
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Revelation Registered user I'll think up a title later... Last page view: 5997 days, 19 hours, 42 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
Ashes to Ashes... Dust to Dust... (Sorry... I just had to do that...) Maybe you just can't animate certain corpses? I don't know. Does anyone know about this possibilty? Thomas Biskup, the Creator, casts Final Code. You become doomed. Your equipment turns to dust! You feel corrupted. You are stunned! You feel like you haven't eaten in days. You are starving!. Your Willpower drops to 0. You PP becomes 0. You die. Would you like to see the last message before your death? (y/N) |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 18 hours, 9 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Try it with a true necromancer...If they cant do it noone can |
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KoRn DogG Registered user I wanna kill Andy sooo bad... Last page view: 6600 days, 14 hours, 19 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
I don't have a true necro with a WoW with over a trillion charges though :P Only a human assasin and a human fighter, I think the site I downloaded them from would still have them, if I can find it again. Oh, and I did it in version 1.1.0 "I concur that we are both atheists. I just believe in one less god than you do. When you come to realize why you dismiss all the other possible gods out there, you will know why I dismiss yours. |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 42 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
I just tried it with a necromancer on yulgash's corpse and it crumpled to dust. I doubt it's possible. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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