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Gordismo Unregistered user |
Okay, now, I have no idea which weapon I should wield. I got three contestants. Contestant Number One: bless rustproof adamantium dagger of penetration (+5, 1d4+8) Weapon Level at 8 Now, I like this weapon, cuz it bypasses PV. I just cleared the Dwarf Blacksmith place with this baby. And, I wasted 6 scrolls and a potion on it. Contestant Number Two: The artifact, Scorch Spear Weapon Level at 10 Well, I dunno, would this be any use to me? Should I give it to the demented ratling? Its artifact, so its unbreakable, so I don't know. Contestant Number Three: Uncursed Yellow Mythril Broadsword of Devistation (+0, 5d7+13) Weapon Level at 0 I just found this weapon at the blacksmith Dwarf blacksmith place, and probally the reason I'm writing this thread. Should I switch to this weapon? PV won't matter anyways cuz of its raw damage. Now, I can't choose, which weapon should I train in? Which weapon to use for which occasion? |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3758 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
Carry all three; they're not going to be heavy enough to bother you even if you're playing a hurthling. Use the dagger on molochs and other monsters with high PV (like those golems)... keep the Scorched Spear for corroding oozes (does "plant slayer" slay oozes? even if it doesn't, an artifact weapon is a good thing to have). If you want to train with that broadsword, go right ahead; it's a very good weapon. But don't take on anything you can't handle until you've got a decent skill level in it; at this point with your skill in polearms you'll still be doing more damage with the spear. Die Gedanken sind Frei [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/4/2003 at 07:38 (GMT -5) by Iridia] |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3120 days, 10 hours, 12 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
Plant Slayer slays "P" (only two monsters are plants IIRC). You need "Jelly Slayer" to slay oozes. I would train with the spear and use the dagger on special ocasions (molochs/GMolochs, steel/diamond golems and the like). A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3758 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
Ooh, yes, I did forget... are you in the month of the Raven? (Blup's mom would have a very nice polearm for you in that case)... which definitely tips the scales in favor of your spear. Die Gedanken sind Frei [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/4/2003 at 11:18 (GMT -5) by Iridia] |
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Warlord Registered user Wanderer of the Wastes Last page view: 7535 days, 23 hours, 28 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Yes, that would be ideal.... but keep that dagger in case you run into an eternium golem! They can be a real pest. - May the blood of thine enemies stain the ground - |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3120 days, 10 hours, 12 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
Blub's mom has one for you any way - those born in Raven can get it faster (it's random, but Ravens have better odds of getting it quick). A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3758 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
Sure, if you wanna wait a year and get corrupted while you're at it... Personally, I couldn't finish the game in less than a year anyway, but still... Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Gordismo Unregistered user |
I'm born in candle, needed that free talent, and the increase healing is pretty useful. I guess I'll just carry all three then. Or maybe even sell the broadsword. I helped Blup a while ago, so I would be expecting the weapon in about, erm, 10 months or so? BTW, plant slayer kills trees. Animated Trees that is. Especially useful when I have my cloak of invisibility on and backstabbing on 100. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5667 days, 9 hours, 38 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
I think getting that weapon has little or nothing to do with game time(or real time) but more about a random number of game turns, which is much shorter for raven people. That's because I usually avoid the wilderness and most of my games end at under 90 days or so. Just play your game normally and an elemental will come to drop it off to you in some stage of the game. Probably quite in the late game, when you're going after one of the last orbs. Another theory is that getting the weapon has something to do with getting exp. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3758 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes and 53 seconds ago. |
Maybe we should just post here (level, experience, kills, etc.) whenever we get the runed trident. Enough examples and we may start to notice a pattern. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Botched Registered user Last page view: 7649 days, 7 hours, 34 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
i haven't gotten it yet with my fighter and hes level 30 but i went back and talked to blups mom and she said something like "you will get your reward when you have less chance of losing it" so i think it might be exp but when my guy gets it i'll post level exp and game time exactly when i got it. -Botched |
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Illumi Unregistered user |
Or would she mean the weapon skill level of polearms? (so that you won't be disarmed by master swordman or fencer and then lose the weapon?) |
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Gordismo Registered user False God Last page view: 7473 days and 31 minutes ago. |
I don't think that's the case, my first ever charactor, a priest, got it when his polearm weapon was low. (At least, I think. He died like a year ago). Hey, do you think this is good so far? I'm level 25, just pass the casino. HE: UC Crown of Lighting [+7. +1] (+5 spd) NE: UC sapphire amulet "Preserver" BO: UC red dragon scale mail (-1, -4) [+6,+12] GI: UC gurdle of strength [+0, +0] (Str+4) RH: B rustproof adamantium dagger of penetration (+9, 1d4+9) LH: UC tower eternium shield (-1) [+13, +4] RR: B Ring of the High Kings LR: UC ring of defense +4 BR: B brcers of toughness [+0. +0] (To+7) GA: UC gauntlets of stregth (-1, +0) [+5, +5] (Str+3) BO: B seven league boots [+2, +0] MW: None MI: 14 UC adamantium drakish scurgari (+7, 1d8+7) TL: UC Chaos orb of elemental fire (+10str) On tactics Normal, I have 78 DV, 36 PV St: 43 Le: 19 Wi: 31 Dx: 25 To: 32 Ch: 16 Ap: 17 Ma: 15 Pe: 26 H: 353(353) P: 117(117) When should I take on the multi-headed dragon? On a side note, my drakeling thief got the weird tome! Yay! On another side note, I cleared a dragon vault and the Great Black Wyrm dropped a corpse and a scroll of chaos resistence! (I was lucky, I stabbed him, and he raged, and attacked himself, nearly killing him, and then I killed him. Hurray for bugs!) On one more side note, I found a scroll shop and it sold a chaos resistence! Whoop! "The past is a ghost that haunts you from the moment it exists until the moment you don't" [Edited 2 times, last edit on 4/6/2003 at 04:19 (GMT -5) by Gordismo] |
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Warlord Registered user Wanderer of the Wastes Last page view: 7535 days, 23 hours, 28 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
I remember my first encounter with GBW...was one of the first games I played...not knowing how tough it was, I engaged combat with it with a ~10 level figther...*Spluush* and a gone adventurer... - May the blood of thine enemies stain the ground - |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5667 days, 9 hours, 38 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
Warlord: Were you by chance in the dwarven halls? Gordismo: I'd say you've got some pretty nice gear. Only thing I'd try to look for is some better rings. Your a thief right? Just pickpocket everything you can. Also I think that iron is the only metal that rusts so that would be a wasted potion on that dagger. Can't help you with the multi-headed dragon. I've never even tried to face him because I'm still trying to win a normal game first before doing all those UE quests. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Gordismo Registered user False God Last page view: 7473 days and 31 minutes ago. |
"Also I think that iron is the only metal that rusts so that would be a wasted potion on that dagger" DOH! I'm willing to bet that I won't be able to take down the multi-headed dragon yet. I'll wait till my stats get better. BTW, are corruptions from the dragon's corpse undoable? Anyways, I got a ring of slaying to replace the ring of defense. Then I found a red dragon vault (by the time I was done, I was at ~210 speed), with three(!)artifacts and a wand of wishing with two charges! That was without treasure hunter. I feel so lucky. 2 WoW in one game. "The past is a ghost that haunts you from the moment it exists until the moment you don't" |
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Warlord Registered user Wanderer of the Wastes Last page view: 7535 days, 23 hours, 28 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Aarrghh! And I've never found one...you are damn lucky. - May the blood of thine enemies stain the ground - |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3120 days, 10 hours, 12 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
No, the corruptions from the M-HChD are like any other. Read 3 scrolls of Chaos Resistance to get rid of them (yes, you get THAT corrupted, but it's worth it). A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5667 days, 9 hours, 38 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
A wizard of mine ate Nuurag-Vaarn but didn't get any mana increase (in older versions you got +12). He did get the speed increase, so that's pretty much the same thing as it is with the new killer bugs/greater claw bugs. I believe his mana was already in the 50's or so. So might want to consider eating that dragon if you're stats are already high you might not get any increases. I don't know if the dragon's corpse is different from others but at least undead corpses seem to get very ineffective after your toughness reaches 30. You get the idea... Someone ought to test these things in the new versions. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Gordismo Registered user False God Last page view: 7473 days and 31 minutes ago. |
Wohoo! Killed him! Ate his corpse, not a very good stat increase (at least, not even half of what the guide says it does), but what the heck, I had the Unicorn remove all the corruptions for me. Though I do feel like a walking tank. Yeah, probally the higher your stats, the less your gains. "The past is a ghost that haunts you from the moment it exists until the moment you don't" |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3120 days, 10 hours, 12 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
Get rid of that "walking tank" thing - if you don't, you'll die to a monster that you could kill easly ;) Paranoia - the only thing that makes you a living hero :) A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Gordismo Registered user False God Last page view: 7473 days and 31 minutes ago. |
Got the trident! D:48 Level 38 All I did was go down the stairs, and the water elemental popped up. "The past is a ghost that haunts you from the moment it exists until the moment you don't" |
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Warlord Registered user Wanderer of the Wastes Last page view: 7535 days, 23 hours, 28 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
I think it's not level (char or dungeon) based. I've got it with a level 10 char in the Assassin's guild (finished the quest and then went directly to Assassin's guild). - May the blood of thine enemies stain the ground - |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5667 days, 9 hours, 38 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
It definately not dungeon level based. (Meaning that entering any dungeon level whatsoever has no effect). Just a coincidence(sp?) you got it when going down the stairs. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Gordismo Registered user False God Last page view: 7473 days and 31 minutes ago. |
Level 10? Lucky bastard :D I lost my seven leagues boots (+9, +10) in the blue dragon caves :(. On a happier note, I beat the Moloch Emperer! Went in, zapped a wand of monster detection, teleported, attacked, got hit for 1/4 of my hit points, then I got hit for another 1/4. Then, he criticled me, and I was left at 1(!) HP. I thought I died there. I just prayed and killed him off then. Good thing I chose the seven league boots with the (+0, +1) than the one with the (+2,+0). Ahhh, I love my Rustproof adamantium dagger of penetration (+9, 1d4+9) (+2, +0) And the ToTRR rocks! I'm gonna spend a day or two finding potions of -stat- until I go and face Andy. Wish me luck. "The past is a ghost that haunts you from the moment it exists until the moment you don't"
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Gordismo Registered user False God Last page view: 7473 days, 31 minutes and 1 second ago. |
Die Shyssiryxius! Drop a corpse darn you! Stupid useless pile of rubbish, don't you carry anything good cept this potion of learning? Wait, what's that below the wand of item detection? Woah, man, is that a... wand of wishing? SWEET! Lets read a blessed scroll of identify. Woah... Five Charges! :D Which stat should I wish for? St: 59 Le: 35 Wi: 59 Dx: 32 To: 59 Ch: 20 Ap: 22 Ma: 59 Pe: 33 Or maybe, which item should I wish for? Currently, I have 9 SoCR, you think I would be needing more when I fight with Andy? Should I save the wand for speed later? (current speed: 194, have 5 potions of boost speed) How about skills? You think I would be needing alchemy for potions of youth? How about Concentration? I want to record the battle, how can I do this? EDIT: Nevermind, I wished for alchemy, thought I was tank enough to fight a while in the small cave. Guess what? I found a ghost lord, and it managed to hit me, and now I'm very old. The thing is, the recipe is potion of wonder and potion of boost speed, and I just drank all 10 of my potions of wonder before wishing! "The past is a ghost that haunts you from the moment it exists until the moment you don't" [Edited 2 times, last edit on 4/11/2003 at 02:32 (GMT -5) by Gordismo] |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5768 days, 20 hours, 19 minutes and 4 seconds ago. |
Gordismo: If you still have any charges left on that wand of wishing, you need to wish for potions of youth NOW. Since there's nothing else you need urgently, keep the other wishes until you need them. Use one on speed when you arrive at the Chaos Plane. I take it that you know all the criteria for passing through the Chaos Gate safely, and that you already have the Crown and Medal of Chaos and are a crowned champion of your chosen alignment? Once you've removed your unnatural aging, you should be ready to take Andy on. If you've come this far without Concentration, you can finish without it. Casting spells on the Chaos Plane is a bad idea anyway. 9 SoCR should be more than enough, but I'm unsure exactly what your situation is. If you are going for Avatar of Order, you'll be fine. Since the unicorn cleansed you, you won't be at risk of becoming a WMoPC, and you'll be able to remove any particularly awful corruptions (like stiff muscles) that happen during the fight with Andy. If you are going for Avatar of Balance or UCG, though, you'll need to be extremely corrupted when you head through the gate. You may find that you use up some of those SoCR "rearranging" your corruptions so that the horrible ones are near the end of the list and can easily be removed. Are you worried about the ghost lords on D:50? They can't see invisible. Just don't cast ball spells or zap wands of fireball, because that'll let them know where you are. Have a blessed potion of youth in case they manage to get a hit in. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5667 days, 9 hours, 38 minutes and 4 seconds ago. |
About you left at 1 hp, I think more likely you just got a good luck roll (you do have lucky+fate smiles don't you?) and you would've died without your luck and that +1 PV didn't matter. I think it's quite often that you're left with 1 hp. Think about it, how many times have you been left at 2 or 3 hp after a critical hit? I bet you've been left with 1 hp more often. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
