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Lavos
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Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 00:30 (GMT -5)

Well, i was wondering about the old english 'thou's and 'shalt' and all of thos other wonderful things. Does anyone have any information on that? It would be kinda funny if someone who was new saw us writing like, "thy self shalt go to terinyo for what thou art searching for..." or whatever it means. So anyone?


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Arancaytar
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Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 01:29 (GMT -5)

This is almost screaming for a reply from me, it would seem... ;)

1. Thou is only used as a 2nd person (someone who you address) singular form. In the plural, you'd use 'ye' if you wanted to be really archaic. 'yer' as the genitive, however, is not possible, it has to be your.

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Subject: Thou
Genitive (your): Thy. If the next word starts in a vowel sound, it's thine, like a and an. So it would by 'thy fate', but 'thine orange' :p
Thine is also used as a pronoun, like 'yours'. 'It is thine'. In the first person, there is also a form 'mine', that is used exacxtly like the 'thine' (my fate, mine orange).

Object: Thee

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All verb endings are the same as normal speech, except:

2nd Person - -est, -st or -t ('thou hast', 'thou art', 'thou walkest'). The most common form is -st, when the verb ends in a consonant, an -e- is inserted before the ending, and I think there is only on case of -t (art).
3rd Person - -eth or -th ('he hath', 'he is', 'he walketh'). Again, it's eth or th depending on whether the verb ends in a vowel. Is is an irregular verb.

4. There is also the word 'methinks'. It is exactly the same as 'I think', and it is used in the same way.

Okay. Any more? ;)


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Duke Ravage
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Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 05:30 (GMT -5)

what about "ken?" didn't they use that one?


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Ryan Klein
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Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 08:19 (GMT -5)

I use methinks, hither, and thither in my common speaking (along with fuck, shit, and cunt.)

I am a paradox.

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Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 13:19 (GMT -5)

Cool, thanks. I gotta start using this stuff...


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Arancaytar
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Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 15:14 (GMT -5)

Hither and Thither are just slightly outdated versions of the "here" and "there" when used in the sense of a destination (Go there=go thither). It's still in use, but not colloqiual. Like thrice for three times.

'ken'? Do you mean like in 'hearken'? As far as I know, that is the only case where it is used. Also remember that hearken can be shortened to hark, but the 'e' is taken out then. hearken is both the infinitive and the imperative, I don't know how you conjugate it. I hearken, You hearken, He hearkens (th would sound wrong here) or harketh.

Ryan, that's a cool, if slightly colorful phrase you've got in your sig... "I shall poke out your eyes and piss on your brains, you gay little ass"... :p


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Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 18:55 (GMT -5)

*rolls eyes*

We know you're a paradox, Ryan... you didn't have to tell us!!

Actually, if you want to learn old English, you could try reading a lot of Shakespeare. Very good stuff, once you get into it.

Isn't it "hearkeneth"?


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Ekaterin
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Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 at 04:37 (GMT -5)

I think "ken" means "understanding", so something that is "beyond our ken" is too complex for us to understand.

(It's also the Scottish word for "know", but that's not relevant here.)
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Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 at 19:16 (GMT -5)

hmmm....


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Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 03:04 (GMT -5)

"ken" came from Scottish, and the English picked it up and used it as "knowledge" instead of "know".


ChAoS iS cOmInG!

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Lavos
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Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 18:46 (GMT -5)

or, why not, "ken ye help me laddie?"

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