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Sengoku
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 05:32 (GMT -5)

I'm interested in peoples alignment and style.
Would you say it was better to join the dark side or the light side?
Or in Adom terms would you prefer to become a Chaos god or a Avatar of Law? (not accounting for difficulty.)
Oh and don't forget Balance too, I almost forgot.

I'd go for Light!


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Palagran
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 16:09 (GMT -5)

I believe very strongly in Balance.
Ade
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Posted on Friday, June 22, 2001 at 18:13 (GMT -5)

I believe in chaos :) That's what we all are - chaos, plain chaos. I wouldn't call it evil, just chaotic. Damn, I'm not sober enough to explain more ;)
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Palagran
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Posted on Friday, June 22, 2001 at 19:54 (GMT -5)

Haha.
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Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2001 at 13:21 (GMT -5)

In this life we walk a very narrow tightrope between light and dark. However, I'm all for the dark side! Sorry Sengoku :)


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Palagran
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Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2001 at 22:36 (GMT -5)

Aristotle, I think many chaotics would be a bit less polite than that. *Grin*
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Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2001 at 11:56 (GMT -5)

I know, I think I need a litle more practice!


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Kyp Durron
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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2001 at 08:54 (GMT -5)

I'd go for balance too Palagran. Being too light sided can entail an annoying judgemental side and lack of acceptance for others.



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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2001 at 15:27 (GMT -5)

Sometimes light is dark and dark is light.


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Palagran
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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2001 at 16:10 (GMT -5)

Dark is the absence of light.
Sengoku
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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 at 07:08 (GMT -5)

But darkness would not exist without light as they both define each other through comparsion right? Light needs darkness and darkness needs light.
I don't think people nowadays can follow direct alignments though, I mean goths and vampires kind of worship darkness but they're really pleasent and polite people to talk to.
Can anyone actually define what light, balance and darkness is all about? I have my beliefs but I'm just wondering what the rest of you think.



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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 at 10:09 (GMT -5)

Vampires easy to talk to? I guess so, if you can put up with all the lisping and the pretensious accents.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 at 15:47 (GMT -5)

I was referring to physical light, not the alignment. :)
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2001 at 03:03 (GMT -5)

I always prefered Balance. And twilight..

Sengoku
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2001 at 15:35 (GMT -5)

Palagran, none of us people are on about light and dark in your sense, I don't think so at least.
Caladriel, the ones I've spoken too aren't like that.
Nazgul, what do you mean by twilight?
Anyone thought of any definitions yet?


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Palagran
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2001 at 19:08 (GMT -5)

I know, I know. ^_^

I have some definitions in my mind, but I tend to get long-winded about stuff like that. Maybe it's best to let each person decide for him/herself.
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Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2001 at 06:03 (GMT -5)

Twilight are between day and night, between Light and Darkness.
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2001 at 13:25 (GMT -5)

A person can never be true evil or true good. Just thought I'd put some more fuel on this discussion. :)


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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2001 at 14:14 (GMT -5)

Being chaotic is, in my opinion , very easy. And being lawful is harder. So I prefer being lawful :)


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złamał se dwa żebra wypadł mu dysk"
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Ade
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2001 at 14:34 (GMT -5)

Chaos and law are just artificial concepts... created by minds of human beings, so these concepts cannot be more complicated than our minds. That means that it's impossible to define whether one could be marked as 'chaotic' or 'lawful'.


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fgn
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2001 at 15:00 (GMT -5)

mabe that's not true, but when someone is lawful, he does "good" acts, and when someone is chaotic, he does "bad" acts.

But that's isn't a good definition, 'coz everyone think different about which acts are good, and which ones are bad.


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Jan Erik
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2001 at 21:18 (GMT -5)

Lawfull and Chaotic is not the same as Good and Evil.

If you are lawfull you simply follow the rules/laws/norms of your society. This is different from society to society.

It is quite possible to be (to use an AD&D alignment designation) Chaotic Good, or Lawfull Evil.

If you for example steal a car and speed to the hospital to save a wounded person you are doing a Chaotic act, breaking the law. But you do it with good intent. That is a typical example of a Chaotic Good person, do waht you think to be the right thing to do, and to hell with the rules (you may try to smooth things over afterwards, but there and then you don't let the fact that the only means of transportation is locked and the owner is nowhere in sight stop you).

On the other hand a lawyer who use loopholes and tecnicalities to get a client he know to be gulty out of jail might be very lawfull (folow the book to the letter so to speak), but doing so is not exactly something most people would consider good.


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fgn
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2001 at 14:36 (GMT -5)

I think that's different for every people. Everyone has a different kind of thinking...
(I dont' know if you understand me)


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Locke
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Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2001 at 08:23 (GMT -5)

We all have a different definitions of evil, neutral and lawful. That's why there's no such thing as true evil, neutral or lawful, IMO.


Locke Cole
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Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2001 at 08:55 (GMT -5)

our images of E, N and L are changing all the time...
"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger"
Lord of The Rings

"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will anger the cat lord"

Dezertir
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Posted on Monday, July 23, 2001 at 09:23 (GMT -5)

Of neutrality.

No one mortal can be absolutely *good* or *light* because only God (call Him any name) is the absolute.
Also, no one can be absolutely *evil* or *dark* because a contrast of Absolut is literally nothing (not even chaos but void).

In the world of Ancardia (see Myth of Creation in ADOM.DE) they said Order and Chaos both are results of dreams/nightmares of Gaethra (f#@$ng Buddhism :-)). So, no principal differences. And see: how Chaos can be absoutely evil if it is creature of Creator's idea?

In my humbling opinion, the right alignment is N. You are off extremal sides, you can use positives of both (because all being has positive sides - all is created by God and nothing can be without Him). But you stay free from blind service to white and black banners of *this* world. See: wild beasts are N, and druids - priests of nature.
Neutrality is not *gray* but *rainbow*-colored conception!
Locke
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Posted on Monday, July 23, 2001 at 18:45 (GMT -5)

Well, gray is produced by mixing black and white... And since white contains all colors... *shrugs* I am a lil off topic I 'spose. Just felt like adding a side note that's all. :)


Locke Cole
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Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 at 21:49 (GMT -5)

Neutrality is both good & evil, I'd go for neutrality don't have to rob banks, but you don't have to save everyone

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Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 at 16:53 (GMT -5)

In more D&Dish terms, chaotic good.
feilos
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Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 at 21:36 (GMT -5)

Jan glad you cleared up the asumption of good vs. evil/Chaotic and Lawful thingy...
In ADOM you meet plenty of lawful people, as for the chaotics, I find that there is only a sight chance of them being non-hostile. My stand...neutral, cuz you don't last long at the beginning; bashing on farmers and townfolk.
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