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Tha Messiah Registered user Angel of Death Last page view: 7777 days, 10 hours, 53 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
What the hell?I was playing level 12 a high-eleven paladin On coc level 9 i found a tension room full of dire wolves and a werewolf.The room was heavily trapped mainly corruption traps.Except one square all sqares were full of traps.I had to kill only a few of them.All of a sudden i discovered that 2 of the dire wolves had turned into writhing masses of primal chaos.Boy did i have a tough time with them!!! Hey i didnt know that monsters could become Writhing masses . THE MESSIAH,I'm here now,Worship me. |
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Tekki Registered user Last page view: 7344 days, 6 hours, 36 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
they can. and it is NO FUN when you have a trapped-up room with tons of worms in it...can you say corruption-fest? You feel a surge of power. Suddenly your extraordinary carrying capacity fails you. You are crushed by the tons of luggage you are carrying. You die... Go here when you are on the forum to chat about Adom! http://koti.mbnet.fi/adrakon/chat.shtml |
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Ade Registered user Being perverse is bad Last page view: 7707 days, 8 hours, 14 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
Hmm, I thought TB fixed that bug long ago... You make my life and times A book of bluesy saturdays |
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Jan Erik Administrator Last page view: 16 hours, 34 minutes and 26 seconds ago. |
What bug would that be? Jan Erik Mydland HoF admin |
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Mindstorm Unregistered user |
It's not a bug, its perfectly planned feature. |
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J. Unregistered user |
Ummm... But aren't WMoPC's easily killed with high-level fire bolts ? They are jellies after all. IIRC I once killed one (created by a corruption trap in heavily trapped monster room) easily with a lowish-level char by casting fire bolt. |
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Stas Registered user The Dark Lord Melkor Last page view: 7651 days, 8 hours, 56 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
anyway, creating tension room & trap room in one single room is IMHO a bug. "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger" Lord of The Rings "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will anger the cat lord" |
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Duke Ravage Registered user Gravebane Zombie Last page view: 5663 days, 55 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
i agree, it shouldn't be possible. ivan.sourceforge.net |
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Sengoku Registered user Last page view: 7930 days, 7 hours, 20 minutes and 18 seconds ago. |
I once made Munxip the shopkeeper into a WMoPC by the use of a wand of trap creation. I was tring to rob it but once he turned he attacked me instantly and paralyzed me, poisoned me and then killed me! |
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J. Unregistered user |
Hmmm... I wonder... If one used a \oTrapCreation to create a corruption trap, then turned a shopkeeper to a WMoPC and killed it would that give a lawful boost ? After all WMoPC's are considered VERY chaotic beings, right ? |
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Locke Registered user Treasure hunter Last page view: 7898 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Why shouldn't it be possible to create a tension room and trap room in the same place? What's the argument against it? Locke Cole |
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Duke Ravage Registered user Gravebane Zombie Last page view: 5663 days, 55 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
why would a group of orcs hang out in a room filled with traps?? ivan.sourceforge.net |
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Tha Messiah Registered user Angel of Death Last page view: 7777 days, 10 hours, 53 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
IMHO this is a bug.Tension rooms are bad.Trap rooms are bad too.But both of em together!.Jeez.How on earth do you expect a low level char to handle a WMoPC. THE MESSIAH,I'm here now,Worship me. |
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Locke Registered user Treasure hunter Last page view: 7898 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
Duke Ravage: Well, why would a group of orcs hang out in a room with a trapped door that would warn the character? Why don't the orcs sneak up on the character from the corners instead of staying packed together, begging to be beaten up? :) Besides, the orcs don't know about the traps until they start their trampling towards the character. And one final thing: This has been reported a 'bug' quite a few times, and it is still around, which surely means that TB wants this to stay in the game. Thus, it's a feature. Tha Messiah: A tension room + trap room does not guarantee the generation of a corruption trap you konw. And if a monster is transformed into a WMoPC, run your ass off then if you can't handle it at that time. :) Locke Cole |
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J. Unregistered user |
How about river running through a vault ? I found one with a human elementalist in CoC (Demons and hellhounds). |
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Stas Registered user The Dark Lord Melkor Last page view: 7651 days, 8 hours, 56 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
Locke>feature, you say... when one don't want to admit that's a bug, they say it's a "feature"... or maye bug is so hard to fix (with coding) that he hasn't been able to do that, yet. why it is a bug? Because:when you open the door, monsters start moving and triggering traps... that probably wasn't TB's idea... "The orc steps on a loose stone. You hear *CLICK*! Suddenly a huge explosion engulfs everything. The orc screams one last time before is consumed by a roaring flames!" see?monsters are killing themselves. "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger" Lord of The Rings "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will anger the cat lord" |
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Locke Registered user Treasure hunter Last page view: 7898 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
I've also found a vault with a river running through it, several times. And I find it kinda nice feature too since it gives you an obstacle to the free experience and stuff you'll get from the vault way to easy otherwise. Stas, I doubt very much that this feature is hard to 'fix' since it's merely one or checks away from fixing, if the code is logical enough. And yes, the monsters are killing themself when they activate the traps. What's your point with that known fact? :) Locke Cole |
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Duke Ravage Registered user Gravebane Zombie Last page view: 5663 days, 55 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
well IMO the monsters congregate in a room for a reason (I.E. sleep, food, or- other things.... *g*) and the trapped door is more to warn them than an intruder, as well as to provide them an easier way to eliminate others. i could be wrong of course, but thats what i see. that's also how i see vaults and greater vaults. and why would they want to go have an or-cish feast in a room filled with traps?? ivan.sourceforge.net |
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Piraten Registered user Last page view: 8179 days, 14 hours, 31 minutes and 21 seconds ago. |
why would orcs hang out in a room at all, i bet they're thinking: lets wait till an adventurer comes by and well try to kill him , WEEEEEEE!!!! /I wish u could play as a pirate in ADOM!! |
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Duke Ravage Unregistered user |
you didn't read what i said did you? in real life i sincerely doubt they'd know anyone was even in the dungeon until they saw him. so who knows, they could be a war band that's resting in there after a battle or something... and if you were leading a group of 20 or so orcs would you want them wandering around alone running into powerful ugly monsters. and one more thing they could be doing in there: Orcs have a religion too. Perhaps they're having a wild org- er, orcish feast in honor of the One who Rages or something.... |
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Duke Ravage Unregistered user |
a poll:
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Amanda Sedai Registered user Last page view: 7923 days, 8 hours, 14 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
In the case of some tension rooms, that's probably where the monsters live. Take orcs for example. They live in caves, so if you're in a cave and you find a tension room filled with orcs, maybe that's an orcish village or something. -Amanda Sedai, a save-scumming newbie. (Hey, at least I saved that little girl's dog. Gimme some credit... ;-)) |
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Tha Messiah Registered user Angel of Death Last page view: 7777 days, 10 hours, 53 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
Well if that is so why the traps?Dont you think they would have already activated traps? THE MESSIAH,I'm here now,Worship me. |
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Amanda Sedai Registered user Last page view: 7923 days, 8 hours, 14 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
Maybe they had created the traps themselves very recently as a means of protecting their village, but were so stupid that when they saw you they stepped on the traps themselves. Orcs aren't the smartest monsters. -Amanda Sedai, a save-scumming newbie. (Hey, at least I saved that little girl's dog. Gimme some credit... ;-)) |
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Locke Registered user Treasure hunter Last page view: 7898 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes and 11 seconds ago. |
*lol* I really like that one Amanda! That would be just like an orcish action. Trapping themself in a room like that and then, when the hero shows up, they charge at him/her with zero thought about the traps, until it's too late. :) Locke Cole |
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Piraten Registered user Last page view: 8179 days, 14 hours, 31 minutes and 21 seconds ago. |
easy Duke! was just kidding, but i still think it seems quite stupid with tension rooms, maybe not if it is orcs but when its mixed with all kinds of monsters.. /I wish u could play as a pirate in ADOM!! |
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Duke Ravage Registered user Gravebane Zombie Last page view: 5663 days, 55 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
you're right about it bein wierd w/ different kinds of monsters (dark hurthlings hanging out with orcs for example)... but still... ivan.sourceforge.net |
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Tha Messiah Registered user Angel of Death Last page view: 7777 days, 10 hours, 53 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
Hey people this is a game remember.They dont have a reason to be in a room together.My point was that it is irritating when they turn into WMoPc's and attack a low level char. THE MESSIAH,I'm here now,Worship me. |
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Andor Drakon Registered user uummm... ElDeR cHaOs GoD? Last page view: 7300 days, 17 hours and 51 minutes ago. |
No, it wasnt a tension and a trap room, there was just a werewolf and it summoned all the wolves ChAoS iS cOmInG! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
