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Alterac Unregistered user |
How exactly does movement cost work? I dont mean the obvious "less means you go faster" and that sort of thing, I have a character, a drakeling monk, who because he is a monk has a movement cost of ~800 (i think.) He also got his hands on some 7LB, immediately blessed (yay!), and got the stiffened muscles corruption (boo!). So, in the end, what actually is my movement cost? If i have the 7lb, does the monk bonus help at all? how do the rates stack/add up? I really have NO idea, and any information would help. |
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Warlord* Unregistered user |
I believe you can change the dynamic display (the usually shows your speed) to tell you how much power your last action took. So change to appropriate mode and walk one square, check the display. Look in binding help to find the correct key combination to change the display. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5664 days, 12 hours, 13 minutes and 23 seconds ago. |
RTFM Oh well, here it is: Speed ----- Actions in real life rarely are synchronous. Beings rather act individually, move with different speed and are either slower or faster than others. ADOM simulates this by using a 'speed system'. The core notion of this system is that every character and monster has to collect a certain amount of energy to be able to act. Some beings are able to gather this energy faster and thus can act at higher speed, others gain this energy more slowly and thus act in a slower way. To be able to act once in ADOM your character needs to accumulate at least 1000 energy points. Every acting being has a 'speed rating' (SR) and a current energy rating (CER). ADOM divides each player turn into a number of segments. In each segment every being on the current level adds its speed rating to its current energy. Each being that passes the '1000 energy minimum' with its current energy rating is allowed to act. Afterwards the CER is reduced by 1000 (in most cases). All Player Characters start with a basic speed rating of 100 which basically means that they can act once every 10 segments. This rating can be modified by class (monks and beastfighters get faster with more experience), dexterity (a score of 17 or higher can be helpful), encumbrance level (the more you are encumbered the slower you get), alcohol level (being drunk is not a good idea in all cases), satiation level (a full stomach makes you move slower... starving doesn't help either), your Athletics skill, and special items. Being born under the sign of the Raven also helps. Your energy can never be lower than 1 (although this spells certain doom) and is not limited by any value. The only limit is that you can act only once per segment (even speed scores of 2000+ can't help in this respect... although they are impossible to attain in any case). Most monsters also have a base speed rating of 100, although there are exceptions. Be prepared to face changing speed monstrosities occasionally. Finally you need to understand that some items don't increase your overall speed score but might limit the energy costs for certain actions (e.g. seven league boots could require you to expend but 500 energy points to be able to move -- thus you could move faster, but all other actions would be carried out at normal speed). This is also true for weapon skills which are able to reduce the amount of energy required to stage an attack (see the section on weapon skills for details). SPECIAL NOTE: If you are setting your tactics level to 'coward' and then simply move around without attacking anything, such a move only costs 800 energy points *if* your hitpoints are reduced to one-third their starting value or below (panic does that to you -- and since ADOM basically is a heroic game we'll ignore other wound effects). Remember this when you try to run away! The Dynamic Display ------------------- The dynamic display is used to present detailed information about the actions of the player. It either can display the current turn number (an internal game counter), the current speed rating of the display or the energy cost of the last action of the player character. Usually the current speed rating is displayed. Note that the 'energy cost for the last action' display option does not necessarily show the expected value for energy costs below 1000. This is so because ADOM's internal rating system for action costs relies on relative measurements (e.g. if your potion of speed results in an 800 energy point cost for movement and due to your class you also would be able to move for 800 energy points, this is scaled to a cost of 100000 / {100 + [(100000 / 800) - 100] * 2} = 666 energy points). If you don't understand the formula, simply look at the source code. ;-) Not understanding it *is* a sign of being stupid ;-)) If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 4/8/2004 at 08:41 (GMT -5) by J.] |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7130 days, 10 minutes and 26 seconds ago. |
Alterac, well YOU have the character, right? :-) So you should :t and tell us of your findings. Cumulativeness of 7LB/monkish trait/stiffened muscles is quite interesting, and YOU seem to be in position to do some research :-) Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3898 days, 15 hours, 35 minutes and 3 seconds ago. |
J. Great post "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Alterac Registered user dual-wielding Psychopath Last page view: 7180 days, 6 hours, 19 minutes and 59 seconds ago. |
Alright, thanks J for the info (sorry about that J... i HAVE read the manual, all of it but that part, apparently (thwacks self on the head) ) WITH 7LB,monk and stiffened : 666 WITHOUT 7LB, 1200 (yuk) if you want, I can say what my energy costs go to when the movement costs decrease again |
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Ry Registered user The Eternal Newbie Last page view: 7130 days, 10 minutes and 26 seconds ago. |
Hmmm, the figure for 7LB, monk and stiffened is quite strange... where did that number came from? (It's freakin' morning for me and I don't seem to be able to think clearly before my third or fourth cup of coffee.) Greater Segmentation Vault (emperor memory leak surronded by memory leak kings and master memory leaks) |