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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5671 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
Reading another thread today got me to go experimenting with gremlins, and I noticed one silly thing: while you're killing thousands of them, they of course get tougher and tougher all the time, but if you can handle them they suddenly start to become less able to owerwhelm you with their numbers. They start to get so experienced that they begin to evade the water traps more often than not, resulting in a diminished rate of multiplication. My char has killed some 4500 of them, and now they have to have a really big room, like a third of the game screen, with pretty much as many water traps as possible in order to not run out. A simple 8*6 room with six water traps(as much as you can fit that is) isn't enough, they don't multiply fast enough and start to run out. damn typos... If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." [Edited 2 times, last edit on 6/5/2004 at 07:00 (GMT -5) by J.] |
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Maastonakki Registered user A cute puppy Last page view: 5830 days, 14 hours, 15 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
lol that's interesting... never have killed over 3k~~ of them anyway, and i think i never will. |
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illumi Registered user The 1st child Last page view: 7103 days, 22 hours, 28 minutes and 58 seconds ago. |
Great discovery ... sounds like sci-fic which talks about some species which evolve too much and eventually kill themselves ^o^ |
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NMBLNG Unregistered user |
Actualy, you might just be training your weapon skill. As the skill goes up, the cost to attack goes down. At level 15, it's almost 500. A little bit more. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5671 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
Good point, but I do get messages saying "the gremlin barely evades the water trap", or whatever the message is for avoiding traps is. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Marillion Registered user Twinmaster Last page view: 366 days, 8 hours, 54 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
I've noticed this to. I tried to lure an extremly experianced gremlin across a trap a few weeks ago and after quite a while, it hadn't sat off a trap one sigle time. As a sollution to this I tried to "drop the gremlin bomb", as someone called it, that is make them pop in the Underwater Cave. But killed in that cave they never seem to leave any items, either before or after Whatshername Dragonmother is killed. |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5671 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
I tried that once, and didn't get them to drop items either. It's kinda wierd, as I remember someone posting that they did drop items and lots of them. What you can do even if they don't drop items, is pickpocket them, it's like picking up a random item each game turn. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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 Armada Registered user Last page view: 1232 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
There might be some hardcoded item limit per level, and the stash in the center of the water cave makes it impossible to generate more than a few extra items? Try killing them off after picking it all up? |
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Marillion Registered user Twinmaster Last page view: 366 days, 8 hours, 54 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
Armada: Maby if it's a limit for items on different area squares. Cause I've had a lot more stuff in piles when scumming gremlins in the ID. Then again, the casio is more stuffed than the Underwatercave, and still the monsters there drop items. Strange this thing. And aboute pickpocketing, only 1/10 or something seems to be "carrying varluables" so that's quite annoying too. |
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Zach Unregistered user |
J:How do You manage to create that much water traps? |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3905 days, 8 hours, 29 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
I don't see the problem, just zap a WoTC "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Jurne Registered user Last page view: 6671 days, 22 hours, 18 minutes and 7 seconds ago. |
But you'll have to zap it every couple of steps you take, everytime you open a door....... You wish to kill me? Good thing I brought my psychic hamster named Hamster with me... |
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Zach Unregistered user |
Zapping WoTC creates random traps. Anyway to create just water traps? |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 3905 days, 8 hours, 29 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
create the traps in the right places "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Warlord* Unregistered user |
From GB: "Traps occur in a known pattern. The order, left to right or top to bottom, is: Light trap Corruption trap Stone block trap Alarm Arrow trap Acid trap Pit - this pit is distinct from the other in that it contains vipers Spear trap Teleportation trap Water trap Fireball trap Pit - simple pit, no vipers " |
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Zach Unregistered user |
oh. I just thought that was a order they appear in. so If I have room 3x3 and trap in the nortwest corner is light, is next to the right or next to south corrupting? [Edited 1 time, last edit on 6/11/2004 at 15:57 (GMT -5) by its author] |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1232 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
Yes |
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Zach Unregistered user |
Thanks guys. I have had troubles so far making gremlin trick. Should be easier next time =) |
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satyricon Registered user sir Greybald 'tama' Balorg Last page view: 5835 days, 14 hours, 1 minute and 55 seconds ago. |
yeah killed about 11000 of em :) and then they realy KICK ASS !!! but battle bunnyes are BETTER ! |