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pat
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Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 at 16:24 (GMT -5)

I jumped 21 levels in one greater vault. Level 34 of CoC. I began as level 29 and ended at 50. there were at least six named ancient red wyrm dragons. Also a bunch of ancient dragons about 15. A ring of Immunity, SoCR, PoCR, obsidian shield, whip of the snake where among the treasure generated. Killed them all with ice ball. Trying to decide if this ruins the game for me.
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KoRn DogG
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Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 at 16:47 (GMT -5)

You only need to post this in one forums... Jeez.
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Alex
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Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 at 06:02 (GMT -5)

in answer to your question, yeah, it's fairly common for a greater vault to give that much xp. I suppose it's dependent on what the LE of your char is.
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Flamedrake
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Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 at 12:41 (GMT -5)

Is it only me who misses out on things like that? I havent seen a greater vault in like 3 months not even being cursed & doomed.
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Morio
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Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 at 12:56 (GMT -5)

I've never seen a greater wwault and I've finished the game five times
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Armada
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Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 at 20:03 (GMT -5)

Ive never seen a greater vault before. Mixed smaller vaults are fun as hell though, as are the somewhat more rare Ratling vaults and Spidervaults. Gnolls/hyenas are my favorite though, as i love the axe class weapons.

Are Greater Vaults only generated in the CoC? If one were to dive super deep into the ID could one be generated there? And is there such a thing as Truly Greater Vaults?
C<U>
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Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 at 21:08 (GMT -5)

My fav. is the HUGE dragon vaults that sometimes generate in the lower CoC. I have encountered vaults in the small cave, The draklor pass, High King's cave, the emperor moloch's place, and the village dungeons.

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Alex
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Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2004 at 07:18 (GMT -5)

you can't get vaults in the ID.
I've completed the game 3 times, gotten to the lower COC twice more and seen the following greater vaults:
3 undead (pain in the ass. did two with a dwarf, ignored one with an orc: ghost = death)
1 giants (easy peasy)
1 red dragons (quite hard without any frost bolt, char was a barbarian)
I think one more but I can't remember what it was.
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Alex
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Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2004 at 07:19 (GMT -5)

oh and according to the guidebook being cursed/doomed increases the probability of generating vaults.
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J.
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Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2004 at 09:28 (GMT -5)

One theory is that the amount of greater vaults you encounter is decided when you create your char, is random and nothing affects it.
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Danielle unlogged
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Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2004 at 12:40 (GMT -5)

That can esily be proven wrong, Ive save scummed (yes i admit it!) and in different saves, different levels. ive gotten a lesser vault, died, reloaded and got nothing.
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Morio
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Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2004 at 13:20 (GMT -5)

I've also tried that but I always found a vault on the same level
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J.
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Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2004 at 15:01 (GMT -5)

Danielle, I was talking about greater vaults.
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Danielle unlogged
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Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2004 at 15:24 (GMT -5)

Im aware of that, i was talkign about the randomness of a level that you havent been to.
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Iridia
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Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2004 at 16:08 (GMT -5)

Yeah, the levels you haven't been to are usually random; however, the greater-vault levels might not be. Try saving every level, and the file just before you get a greater vault, reload repeatedly.

You'll want to try with more than one greater vault, since it's possible there's a flat chance of getting one every level, AND a pre-generated (when the game begins) chance of getting one.

Or you might just decide that's too boring and play normally. :)
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Danielle unlogged
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Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2004 at 17:31 (GMT -5)

I also think it may be that all leveles are generated on entry of the cave.. so maybe saving before you enter and if you got a greater vault, try again
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PowerWyrm
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Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 at 05:47 (GMT -5)

The GV levels are generated at game start, same as fixed levels such as the Elemental temples, at least for the fixed part (the half part containing the vault or the temple). So nothing you do can affect them, except starting the game on a Friday 13th...
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Mewto
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Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 at 06:00 (GMT -5)

what happens then?
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Alex
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Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 at 09:25 (GMT -5)

you start cursed, which may mean a greater chance of vaults generated.
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