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Cervantes Unregistered user |
What the hell is so good about phase daggers? |
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Thoth Registered user The Scribe Last page view: 6200 days, 1 hour, 44 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
I'll handle this one guys... Phase daggers bypass PV. --<>||<>-- |
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 Armada Registered user Last page view: 1232 days, 19 hours, 55 minutes and 54 seconds ago. |
I prefer weapons of penetration, though those are harder to find. They usually have better damage, and don't give the annoying message that Phase daggers do when you attack someone |
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Danielle unlogged Unregistered user |
Ive noticed phase daggers seem to break real fast too.. |
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illumi Registered user The 1st child Last page view: 7103 days, 20 hours, 4 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
phase daggers can be wished for, other penetrating weapons can't; that's the advantage =) |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3606 days, 10 hours, 11 minutes and 13 seconds ago. |
and daggers are really cool to fight with For the Horde! |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1232 days, 19 hours, 55 minutes and 54 seconds ago. |
I prefer Orcish and crystal daggers to a pair of Phases :) |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3606 days, 10 hours, 11 minutes and 13 seconds ago. |
what's the special thing about crystal daggers? except that they don't rust For the Horde! |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1232 days, 19 hours, 55 minutes and 54 seconds ago. |
They have nice damage dice, don't rust, and you can smack around jellies with them |
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TheTimpen Registered user Last page view: 6856 days, 4 hours, 46 minutes and 14 seconds ago. |
Penetrating weapons can be gained via wishing. It's just very unlikely. |
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NMBLNG Registered user Wrath of the blade of paradise Last page view: 7195 days, 8 hours, 37 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
Has anyone ever found phase daggers of devastation? |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3124 days, 3 hours, 17 minutes and 58 seconds ago. |
Phase daggers are considered "special weapons" and cannot have any prefix or suffix. Crystal daggers, stone spears/axes, whips of snake/slaughtering, maces of destruction/distruption, swords of sharpness - all are "special weapons". (This category I made up, but we have to have a name for the weapons with no suffixes and prefixes possible, right? :P ) A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Danielle unlogged Unregistered user |
whats a mace of disruption do? foudn one a couple games ago. |
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 Derek B Rackham Esq. Registered user Swordsman of Forcena Last page view: 6968 days, 17 hours, 51 minutes and 27 seconds ago. |
A mace of disruption has some extra effect against undead, I think it is a chance to instakill them, but it may be extra damage or extra critical hit %. I'm pretty sure it's a chance to instakill undead. Tell me how to get stronger.... |
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raven Registered user Last page view: 7145 days, 6 hours, 31 minutes and 48 seconds ago. |
as soon as you find a phase dagger, rustproof it and every single scrolof +meele or + accuracy READ it weilding your Blessed Rustproof phase dagger (+9 1d4+7), forget all your 'foo slaying, the dagger is AMAZING, Steel golums in 1 or 2 hits, dragons in 1, <this is with a gnomish priest strength 32> these and any sword of penetration <same rules apply>, just have to worke up the skill |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3124 days, 3 hours, 17 minutes and 58 seconds ago. |
Maces of Distruption have "Slays Undead" - it's the only non-artefact weapon with slaying (not counting rabit knife - who's interested in slaying battle bunnies? :P ) A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3762 days, 16 hours, 32 minutes and 56 seconds ago. |
Besides a knife specialist? :) Those actually do come in handy; since I often train for the twins I'll keep a couple around for the bunny level. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Túrin Registered user Wildman of the Woods Last page view: 6927 days, 22 hours, 44 minutes and 44 seconds ago. |
I still dream of the wicked eternium dagger of penetration I'll never find.... Túrin Turambar Dagnir Glaurunga |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3124 days, 3 hours, 17 minutes and 58 seconds ago. |
Why wicked? Murderous is so much better :P A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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TheTimpen Registered user Last page view: 6856 days, 4 hours, 46 minutes and 14 seconds ago. |
I found a brutal eternium longsword of penetration with a beastfighter once, doh! |
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illumi Registered user The 1st child Last page view: 7103 days, 20 hours, 4 minutes and 35 seconds ago. |
OoO ... that's really great! |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3606 days, 10 hours, 11 minutes and 13 seconds ago. |
yeah but beastfighters don't really need it For the Horde! |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3762 days, 16 hours, 32 minutes and 56 seconds ago. |
Exactly :) That's why he said "doh". I think beastfighters find better weapons than anyone... just out of irony. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6515 days, 2 hours, 28 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
I found a murderous eternium halberd of penetration once. I screamed like a schoolgirl. then I died. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3606 days, 10 hours, 11 minutes and 13 seconds ago. |
what happened? For the Horde! |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6515 days, 2 hours, 28 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
werewolf king. never seen one before, thought they were only a bit harder than lords. POW POW POW death. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5671 days, 2 hours, 43 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
Playing 5 barbarians in a row. Thinking: why not try a beastfighter for a change? Wicked E2HS in the SMC. Fuck.You.RNG. BTW, I want a wicked large eternium hammer of devastation. Screw penetration and critical hits and all that crap, 9d10+10 damage, now that's wicked indeed :D If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 7/11/2004 at 19:21 (GMT -5) by J.] |
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 eppztr Registered user droog Last page view: 7047 days, 11 hours, 53 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
i've never found a really good penetrating weapon, but that's prolly because once i find a nice artifact weapon i don't bother to pick up and identify all the other weapons i find. which is the best out of brutal/wicked/murderous anyways? which one that does most damage that is. the best suffix is of devastation i am quite sure. if you mean damage-wise once again. otherwise i think i'd prefer of penetration as the extra 4 damage die doesnt do as much when you advance in levels and weaponmarks and get really high +damage. What do you guys think would be the absolutely coolest/best non-artifact weapon? (not counting "special weapons" either) the greater moloch equips the hulking armor [Edited 1 time, last edit on 7/15/2004 at 12:10 (GMT -5) by eppztr] |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3124 days, 3 hours, 17 minutes and 58 seconds ago. |
J., wicked large eterinium hammers of devastation would be 6d13, not 9d10 ("wicked" adds to the sides of diece used, not the number of dice). Murderous is the *BEST* prefix for a weapon, since it increases the chances for critical hits (just like bloody daggers, axe of the minotaur emperor, Serpent's Bite and a few others). With find weakness and some other increases (ie. braces of war, Ring of the Master Cat) it gives more bonus then Vanquisher (which slays only the listed thingies, but does nothing against bugs, animals and some other enemies). Murderous eterinium spear of devastation or Murderous eterinium halbred of devatation would be my choice. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 7/16/2004 at 03:30 (GMT -5) by Maelstrom] |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3762 days, 16 hours, 32 minutes and 56 seconds ago. |
Why would you be worried about bugs and animals? In Bugville just use spells... and animals are pushovers. I wouldn't take a halberd; the bonuses you lose from the shield don't make up for it. A spear, though, or a longsword... hm. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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