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jenda154
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Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 08:54 (GMT -5)

Well, maybe it is not such a big thing for all you ADOM masters... But I was kinda surprised. The ancient dwarf told me to kill a cave lion as the first quest. How would you deal with that? Is there still a chance to get the RoMC? Thank you.
illumi
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Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 09:10 (GMT -5)

You can visit the Cat Lord before killing the poor yellow feline ...
and when you feel like finishing the 1st dwarven quest, drop the one Ring on da ground before you do so =)
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Morio
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Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 09:12 (GMT -5)

get the RotMC before you kill the cave lion just keep it in your backpack or on the dungeon floor when you kill it.

Does it count if you have your pet kill one for you or if you use a wand of destruction?
"I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein
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Alex
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Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 02:23 (GMT -5)

morio - no it doesn't count. neither the dwarf or the cat lord will count it.

hmm. Has anyone ever ordered a pet cat to attack the cat lord?
What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_
JS.
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Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 06:06 (GMT -5)

I once had a cave lion pet and ordered it to attack to the cat lord. The cat lord killed it.
Then I talk to him and got that ring. =)
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Morio
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Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 06:29 (GMT -5)

That's weird, it would be nice if the cat attacked you instead of the Cat Lord when you order it to attack him or maybe the Cat Lord shouldn't give you the ring. It shouldn't attack the cat, and the cat shouldn't attack the Cat Lord

Then why didn't the ring explode when he killed the cat, maybe the Cat Lord didn't wear the ring he just carried it with him.
"I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein
TheTimpen
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Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 08:01 (GMT -5)

The cat lord is muchos xp. I always kill cats.
firestorm
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Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 03:19 (GMT -5)

The cat lord doesnt carry or wear the ring. He transforms into the ring.
Flare
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 at 16:43 (GMT -5)

Can you order your pets to attack?
I dont play bards much and i never had long time pet.
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Maelstrom
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 at 16:46 (GMT -5)

ctr-o, then "A" for attack, "M" for move to chosen spot, "F" for "stop what you're doing and follow me", "W" for "SIT! STAY! Good boy!" ;)
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An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel.
A realist sees a train.
And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks.
Unnamed
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 03:12 (GMT -5)

I once killed a cat in front of the Cat lord. The killing message was created but I still got the ring.
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Iridia
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 12:11 (GMT -5)

If the ring/no ring thing is determined when you walk onto the level, that may be true. SSRT.
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raven1
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 13:27 (GMT -5)

kill the stupid cat, the cat lord IS tough, just take him to a stair, teleport till he finds you, then take him to Darkforge, cat god idiot is stuck there and you can jump aroud him, <not that want to hang there>
and then you can go get killed by 30 greater earth things
and the ring isnt THAT great, um <where is "the ring of the dog"? <G> <we have 2 cats and i wish i could sleep 22 hr a day>
J.
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Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 at 10:15 (GMT -5)

Might not be anything too powerful, but it's still the best ring in the game, so it's worth getting.

That being said, I always slaughter all cats I can find and kill the cat lord for the millions of exp you get for killing him. Seven league boots, wands of paralyzation, that's all you need.
If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away.

Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad."
Molach
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 11:14 (GMT -5)

Best ring in game...hm
Ring of immunity is decent
And rings of djinni summoning are nice too...
I've gotten the ring once, but dont worry too much about not getting it. It comes so late in the game that once I get to his level I know the character will be a winner, ring or no.

[Edited 3 times, last edit on 8/17/2004 at 11:15 (GMT -5) by Molach]
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Morio
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 12:46 (GMT -5)

Rings of Elemental Mastery are also quite nice, only time I've evergotten any of those was with a PoE and I got nine of them.

BTW does the Rings of Karmic Absorption completely remove the chances of getting cursed or doomed, or do they just drastically reduce it
"I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein
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Naiyor
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 13:12 (GMT -5)

From what I understand about the ring is that it's status drops with each karmic attack.

eg. you have a blessed RoKA.
-you hit karmic dragon your attack causes you to recieve karmic effect(very bad thing)
-ring stops the bad karmic effect.
-ring status changes from blessed to uncursed.
-this will happen until the ring reached cursed status.
-ring will not work when cursed(not sure...can anyone verify?)

So, in short, a blessed ring will completely stop the bad karma twice...until the ring reaches cursed status.
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Alex
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 13:55 (GMT -5)

I used one once. As far as I can remember it works something like that, yeah. The message when you hit something is 'some sparks fly from your blessed ring of karmic absorption! The ring seems to glow less brightly' or something like that.
What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_
TheTimpen
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 17:03 (GMT -5)

The ring is very overrated. By the time you get it you most likely have other nice rings that compensate most of the bonuses you get from it. You get tons of xp too.
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Iridia
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 09:08 (GMT -5)

A ring of karmic absorption, if you're a mainly melee fighter, can really only work well if you also have a good supply of uncursing items (scrolls or holy water--why would you even consider meleeing karmics if you're powerful enough to cast Remove Curse?).

In a pinch, if you have no missiles... yes. But don't count on clearing that Karmic vault that way.
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The Real J.
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The faceless swordsman


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Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 07:18 (GMT -5)

Karmics aren't that bad, actually. True, if one has no missiles or proper spells that cursing/dooming effect can be nasty. My current Archmage attempt encountered a greater karmic vault, but that wasn't such a big problem. Death ray and high level magic missile made clearing that a cinch and those AKD's and GKW's left a bunch of nice stuff.

Also, scrolls of luck help. My char accidentally hit a karmic being while dual-wielding, losing the fate smiles and lucky intrinsics. But two blessed scrolls of luck later the situation was fixed.
Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa.
Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä.
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Alex
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Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 at 11:13 (GMT -5)

hrm, if i was playing a pure melee and ran into a greater karmic vault i'd probably just say to hell with it, take the karma on the chin and deal with it later. cursed + doomed isnt THAT bad, is it?
What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_
J.
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You'll never get rid of me


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Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 at 14:51 (GMT -5)

It's quite bad, you'll notice it when a bunch of rats start pounding your eternium plate mail from [0, +17] to [0, +10] in ten turns. After clearing that karmic vault, return to the nearest altar ASAP.

Meaning EXTREMELY USEFUL to get rid of those trapped clothes of sloth. What were you doing trying on unidentified junk anyway?
If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away.

Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad."


[Edited 1 time, last edit on 8/20/2004 at 14:53 (GMT -5) by J.]
The Real J.
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Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 at 15:49 (GMT -5)

...or if you have four blessed scrolls of luck just read them. You see:

Read scroll 1 -> goodbye doomed
Read scroll 2 -> goodbye cursed
Read scroll 3 -> hello lucky
Read scroll 4 -> hello fate smiles

Or something to that effect. IIRC I once got cursed from meleeing karmics but reading a ?oLuck resulted in "You feel less unlucky".
Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa.
Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä.
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Alex
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Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 at 09:09 (GMT -5)

Methinks if you'd just cleared a vault of karmics you'd have a few corpses lying around to deal with the problem.
What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_
J.
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You'll never get rid of me


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Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2004 at 05:11 (GMT -5)

Lol, so true and obvious... :D
If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away.

Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad."

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