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RunnerLord
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 at 00:49 (GMT -5)

How does this work, do you have to wield it or not? Also if you dont have to wield it, can you nto wield any rings and they would still work?
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Morio
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 at 03:57 (GMT -5)

from the GB: "rings of the fish - AUTOCURSING; 1 blessed or 2 of any status stop drowning damage, although water breathing is not listed as an intrinsic at the time."
And yes they have to be wielded

I'm not sure but I don't think they stop damage from water breath attacks
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Alex
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 at 05:01 (GMT -5)

No, they have to be worn, not wielded. The only ring that has to be wielded is a wedding ring, which can be used by male characters to protect against the Banshee's wail.
Do any items protect against water breath attacks?
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Morio
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 at 06:57 (GMT -5)

atleast helm of waterbreathing does, I didn't seem to take any damage from the water breath of the greater water dragor, nor did get the message, you are washed away
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Ashandarei
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Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 at 14:30 (GMT -5)

You probably dodged the blast. The dragon's breath is extremely damage-dealing, at least 200-300. I don't think there is any kind of immunity or protection from water breath attacks. You just sometimes evade them.

Oh, and at least TotRR, R-C-trident and one of the trinity grant water breathing.
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Zephyr
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Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 at 20:42 (GMT -5)

It's The Medallion of Chaos that grants water breathing. Although I don't know anybody who actually equips the trinity other than Special Endings.
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XThePKMNScientist
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Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 at 11:07 (GMT -5)

A helm of water breathing allows you to breathe water, thus preventing drowning damage. As long as you wear the helm, you have the water breathing instrinct.

A blessed Ring of the Fish does the same thing, but doesn't grant the instrinct at that time.

Know what would really suck?

"Your blessed helm of water breathing rusts!" while underwater.
Ashandarei
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Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 at 12:41 (GMT -5)

That can't happen. It is waterproof. But I've seen some rusty rings of the fish in a shop and they are rustproof as well... probably a bug.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 at 13:44 (GMT -5)

I've seen rusty blue metal caps here and there... and I'm quite sure some were in the water dragon cave.
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Twinge
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 at 03:48 (GMT -5)

Items that are rustprooft can be generated as rusty (as part of the random generation that can make them broken, B/U/C, etc.) but will not rust in any other way.

This includes rings of the fish, iron ore, helms of water breathing, and probably a few others.

Rings of the fish don't list the instrinsic because it isn't quite the same as the instrinsic. I think (I haven't checked the code for it yet) that luck plays a factor, so if you're cursed and/or doomed you can still take drowning damage from a blessing ring of the fish (stuff 'of the sea'works the same way). Other than that, I think ToGu found that they give you a 100/80/60 chance at not drowning based on thier B/U/C status (which would then be modified by luck; I say this because I'm pretty certain that I've taken drowning damage while wearing a single blessed ring of the fish. I can try to look it up if anyone is actually interested.)
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Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 at 08:07 (GMT -5)

"Items that are rustprooft " (such as)"iron ore" "can be generated rusty".

Yeah I've wondered about how Iron ORE (FerroOxide, which is basically rust) can be rusty.

Seems Thomas B. thought about that fact, which is why iron ore is on norust list.

So this is definately a bug.

What are effects of rust?
I know weapons have less damage, and other items are more susceptible to destruction, but are there more effects?
Are rusty climbing sets more dangerous to climb with? Is rusty iron ore harder to smith? Etc.
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Alex
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Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 at 09:25 (GMT -5)

Rusty weapons do 1/2 damage. They are also likely to break (a chance every time you hit something). Broken weapons do 1/4 damage, rusty broken weapons do 1/8 damage. I think rusty items are also more likely to get melted etc. by traps or attacks. I also read somewhere that it's possible to get poisoned by wearing rusty armour, but I've never heard of it actually happening.
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Twinge
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Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 at 14:59 (GMT -5)

Close Alex, but broken weapons are only 1/2, and the two effects together are 1/4.

Vlad recently pointed out that I was mistaken for pickaxes (blessed status doesn't matter, I misread it and thought it did) - instead, pickaxes break a lot more often if rusty.

Some fairly brief searching hasn't revealed anything else interesting for rusty effects...
Cristus
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 at 13:52 (GMT -5)

You are forgetting the minus on Apparence : -1 per rusty item worn, IIRC. I don't think this apply to rusty weapons although.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 at 15:15 (GMT -5)

i *think* rusty weapons have a chance of poisoning the monster you attack as well
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 00:33 (GMT -5)

muffin, that's what i have in mind.it doesnt poison you though (You are not a rust monster ;)
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