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demented_yam Registered user yaaarrrrrghhhh! Last page view: 6949 days, 10 hours, 25 minutes and 8 seconds ago. |
hi. i'm dead i have made literally 15 characters in the past two days, all of which have died nearly instantly. the highest was a level 9 gnome wizard who died from acute poisining as a result of entering a room with about ten billion snakes. there's gotta be something i'm doing wrong. any tips? |
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Hubris Unregistered user |
Play a heartier character. When I was just starting adom, I really like trolls. Watch out for starvation though. Also, if you're about to die make sure you pray (use '_' key). Other than that, realize that the game is hard and don't get too attached to your characters. |
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demented_yam Registered user yaaarrrrrghhhh! Last page view: 6949 days, 10 hours, 25 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
... oh i thought you could only pray at the altars. hmmm..... that certainly helps. what is the difference between a wizard and a necromancer? actually, is there somewhere i can look up all the differences between the classes and races? i have no idea which make the best combos, but i went for a while playing grey elf wizards, and they seemed to do well. |
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demented_yam Registered user yaaarrrrrghhhh! Last page view: 6949 days, 10 hours, 25 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
ok, i got to the floor of the dungeon where lots and lots of ants spew out from the hole. now, this is one of the places that i usually die. any suggestions? |
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demented_yam Registered user yaaarrrrrghhhh! Last page view: 6949 days, 10 hours, 25 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
actually, nevermind the suggestions, i just died. here is the file: what did i do wrong? ------------------------------------------------- Greg St:22 Le: 5 Wi:10 Dx:13 To:29 Ch: 8 Ap: 7 Ma: 5 Pe: 7 C DV/PV: 17/7 H: -4(77) P: 8(8) Exp: 5/5342 PC: 2 Sp: 104 Blind ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Background Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Greg Race: male Troll Class: Beastfighter Eye color: light blue Hair color: black Complexion: dark Height: 9' Weight: 535 pounds Age: 11 (young) Star sign: Tree Birthday: 19/Tree (day 349 of the year) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inventory ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 1726 stones Carrying capacity: 2700 stones Head : uncursed metal cap [+0, +1] [50s] Neck : - Body : uncursed thick furs (-1, -1) [+2, +0] [300s] Girdle : uncursed leather girdle [+0, +0] [5s] Cloak : - Right Hand : uncursed battle axe (+0, 1d6+2) [70s] Left Hand : uncursed dagger (+0, 1d4) [10s] Right Ring : - Left Ring : - Bracers : - Gauntlets : uncursed white leather gauntlets [+0, +1] [10s] Boots : uncursed seven league boots [+2, +0] [30s] Missile weapon: blessed short bow (+1, +0) [20s] Missiles : uncursed arrow (+3, 1d6) [2s] Tool : - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total weight: 1229 stones Carrying capacity: 2700 stones Armor ('[') uncursed clothes [+0, +0] [40s] heap of 2 uncursed ugly clothes [+0, +0] {Ap-1} [100s] Gauntlets ('[') uncursed gloves [+0, +0] [6s] One-handed weapons ('(') blessed hatchet (+0, 1d6+1) [50s] uncursed orcish spear (+1, 1d8+2) [75s] Two-handed weapons ('(') blessed heavy club (+1, 1d10+2) [-1, +0] [120s] Missile weapons ('}') uncursed short bow (+1, +0) [20s] Missiles ('/') bundle of 10 uncursed lead sling bullets (+3, 1d5) [30s] heap of 3 uncursed rocks (+0, 1d4) [15s] bundle of 9 blessed lead sling bullets (+5, 1d5+1) [27s] uncursed arrow (+0, 1d6-2) [2s] blessed arrow (+0, 1d6) [2s] bundle of 16 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6) [32s] bundle of 18 uncursed quarrels of darkness (+1, 2d6) [36s] Tools (']') uncursed broken square key [1s] heap of 4 uncursed wooden sticks [120s] uncursed piece of iron ore [120s] cursed piece of adamantium ore [100s] Wands ('\') uncursed wand of far slaying (7 charges) [3s] Scrolls ('?') heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of gold detection [4s] Books ('"') blessed manual of bridge building [100s] Food ('%') blessed piece of fresh meat [20s] heap of 4 uncursed pieces of fresh meat [80s] uncursed orc corpse [120s] Valuables ('$') 460 gold pieces [4s] Gems ('*') cursed emerald [1s] cursed ruby [1s] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weapon Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Unarmed fighting 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 15 Daggers & knives 3 +2 +1 +0 basic 62 Clubs & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 15 Maces & flails 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 15 Swords 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 15 Axes 3 +2 +1 +0 basic 55 Whips 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 15 Pole arms 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 15 Twohanded weapons 3 +3 +3 +1 basic 45 Staves 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 15 Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- -------------- Slings 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Bows 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Crossbows 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Thrown rocks & clubs 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7 Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks --------------------- --- --- ------------- -------------- Shields 0 +0 unskilled 15 Damage caused with your melee weapons: -------------------------------------- ÆRight hand: Î+2Æ bonus to hit, Î1d6+2Æ damage ÆLeft hand: Î+0Æ bonus to hit, Î1d4+2Æ damage Damage caused with your missile weapons: ---------------------------------------- ÆAmmunition: Î1Æ, base range: Î4Æ, Î+3Æ bonus to hit, Î1d6+2Æ damage ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Skills ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Athletics ................ 75 (great) [+3d4] Bridge building .......... 13 (mediocre) [+3d5] (mr) Climbing ................. 41 (fair) [+4d5] Dodge .................... 32 (fair) [+4d5] First aid ................ 19 (mediocre) [+4d5] Food preservation ........ 34 (fair) [+4d4] Gemology ................. 12 (mediocre) [+3d3] Haggling ................. 21 (mediocre) [+2d4] Healing .................. 89 (great) [+2d4] Herbalism ................ 58 (good) [+3d5] Listening ................ 49 (fair) [+4d5] Mining ................... 15 (mediocre) [+3d3] Stealth .................. 45 (fair) [+4d5] Survival ................. 28 (mediocre) [+4d4] Swimming ................. 65 (good) [+3d5] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- His achievements during his adventures: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg, the trollish beastfighter, was killed by a giant ant warrior. He scored 4086 points and advanced to level 5. He survived for 0 years, 3 days, 21 hours, 12 minutes and 20 seconds (4332 turns). Greg visited 11 places. His strength score was modified by +1 during his career. His learning score was modified by +1 during his career. His willpower score was modified by -1 during his career. His dexterity score was modified by +2 during his career. His charisma score was modified by +2 during his career. His appearance score was modified by +2 during his career. His mana score was modified by +1 during his career. His perception score was modified by +1 during his career. He ended his adventuring life on level 2 of a dangerous cave at the Drakalor Pass. 125 monsters perished under his attacks. He possessed the following intrinsic: He was poison resistant. He had the following talents: Aggressive, Ambidextrous. He had a final speed score of 104 (final base speed: 104). He was despised by Vagrak. He asked for 9 divine interventions. He was chaotically aligned. The following monsters were vanquished: 1 black hurthling 4 blink dogs 1 bugbear 1 cave fisher 1 claw bug 5 fire beetles 1 ghost bat 1 ghul 1 giant ant worker 2 giant bats 1 giant centipede 1 giant frog 1 giant raccoon 9 giant rats 1 gnoll 11 goblins 2 goblin rockthrowers 4 goblin slavemasters 2 hobgoblins 1 hobgoblin chief 23 jackals 1 jackalwere 13 kobolds 1 kobold chieftain 1 kobold shaman 5 large bats 1 large gnoll 2 large kobolds 1 lizard man 9 orcs 2 orc scorchers 1 pixie 1 quasit 3 rats 7 skeletons 1 wererat 1 wild cat 1 zombie [Edited 2 times, last edit on 1/26/2005 at 22:39 (GMT -5) by demented_yam] |
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Deaneus Registered user Accountant of War Last page view: 6901 days, 21 hours, 31 minutes and 59 seconds ago. |
hi, you didn't do anything wrong. in the early game - i'm guessing you were in the small puppy cave - it's really worth running like hell sometimes, especially in that cave against the ants, because there can be heaps of them and generally the character isn't yet strong enough, and the items not fancy enough yet, to get you through it. once you gain a few levels, things like ant-holes are easy, but early game like that, you're really just fresh meat. What do you wish for? _Drew Barrymore figurine |
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Twinge Registered user Communist in Disguise Last page view: 5201 days, 17 hours, 37 minutes and 7 seconds ago. |
Don't attack the ants early on; avoid them. I see your trollish beastfighter is dual-weilding weapons. First off, dual-weilding isn't a very great idea unless you have the two-weapon combat skill. Second, you're a beastfighter: they fight best barehanded, as do monks. Trolls are a good choice for a new character. They are weak in the late game, but very strong in the early game. You can get 2 prayers answered before you make any sacrifices on an altar, 3 if you're born under the candle. Work your food preservaton skill up to 60 as quickly as possible. At 60+, you'll have about twice the chance to get a corpse from a monster, giving you more food. Definately don't be afraid to run away. Also note that if you are being attacked by more than 1 or 2 monsters at a time, your attack power will be weakened. The more monsters around you, the weaker... so try to fight stuff in corridors where possible. Always train missle skills. It was still possibly early for this character, but missle skills are lifesavers. If you find some rocks laying around, pick them up and use them as missles. Set your tactics to Berserk when your attackiing from a distance, but remember to set it back down afterwards (when the monster gets close to you). Set tactics to cowardly when running away. (To set tactics, press capital T and change tactics with + and -) ADOM is very hard on new players (and old players ;P). It's a difficult game, and takes some getting used to ;) |
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Warlord* Unregistered user |
The most important thing is: Stay focused. once you lose your focus on the game, it is certain that the RNG will punish you instantly. Second thing is what all intelligent warriors know to do: Run away. When you see something you can't deal with, RUN, and return when you are stronger. You don't NEED to kill everything in sight the first time you see it. And as said, always fight in a corridor when possible. It is better to flee to a corridor to fight than to stand your ground in the middle of a room. And when you are about the face death, first check your inventory; there might be potions you've forgotten, maybe you got a spare wand of teleportations there. If not, pray. If nothing else is left and death is sure to come, drink unidentified potions, zap unIDed wands and read unIDed scrolls. |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5772 days, 16 hours, 15 minutes and 38 seconds ago. |
demented_yam wrote: what is the difference between a wizard and a necromancer? A necromancer specialises in raising people (and other humanoids) from the dead to make them into undead slaves. Since this is generally considered evil, necromancers start more chaotic than other characters of the same race. In ADOM, necromancers are much more difficult to play than wizards. Unlike all other magic-using types, they do not start with the Healing skill, and their chaotic alignment can make it harder for them to learn it. I suggest that you forget about necromancers until you're more experienced and stick with wizards instead. I rather like Drakeling Wizards, because Drakelings are pretty strong and tough and start with several useful skills. |
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Ashandarei Registered user Spearmaster Last page view: 4945 days, 16 hours, 20 minutes and 16 seconds ago. |
I advise you (and everybody who hasn't done it :P) to read ADOM manual completely. There you'll find very good basis for the beginning. Including descriptions for all races & classes & skills. And a lot more. The rust monster touches your blessed Trident of the Red Rooster. Nothing happens. You laugh at the monster's pitiful attempt. |