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gravel Registered user if i'm not ADOMing i'm working Last page view: 5870 days, 34 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
Well if you have read andy's adom web page you know that playing a trollish healer born on the month of the candle is almost cheating so well call me a cheat then but thats what i did. and i'm glad i did, he is the best character i have had with luck so early on. i have ironfist gauntlets, bracers of war, kickass crystal tower shield, cloak of invisibility, herbs galore, some real nice necklaces, a couple waterproof blankets, some good rings including dinjin summoning(back to that shortly), lots of healing potions, lots of scrolls. All this by the time i got to the high mountain pass and level 10. but the thing i lack is a really good weapon and armour so i "used" the ring of dinjin summoning because i was going to ask for red dragon scale armor but the dinjin appeared and said no more wishes and is my companion (he's pretty tough). Should i have blessed the ring before summoning him to get my wish? what did i do wrong? The stone giant runs away in fear. Who ever heard of a stone being scared of gravel? |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5142 days, 17 hours, 21 minutes and 4 seconds ago. |
Yes you bless Djinni ring if you want a wish. Just wield a regular spear for now, and gather books. You are a spellcaster. Besides, the character is NOT almost like cheating. You will stagnate in levels pretty quick, getting 13 for pyramid can take some time too. And ONE ghost can easily kill you. Esp. a Ghost lord or king. You need to be prepared for them. They also appear in the late game, you need to look out for that. If you find potions of longevity, bless and drink them when you can. And potions of youth can save your life, be careful with them (keep em safe) |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4150 days, 16 hours, 43 minutes and 32 seconds ago. |
i always considered hurtling weaposmiths sort of cheating. starting strength of about 17 and all hutling bonusses A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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Cat Lord Lord Registered user Not really Last page view: 5446 days, 4 hours, 27 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Yeah, if it's cursed the djinn fights you, uncursed he is your companion. Blessed you get a wish. If you haven't already, I would get crowned. I forget if they can get a wep from it, and he is by no means in the beginning a caster. I mean, healers have an okay shot of doing spells. Troll, you won't be able to learn light. Your learning is what, 7? I would try to get some Crystals of learning, and bless+use. Back to weapon, I think anything will work for you right now. Bracer's of war+high strength+ironfist=huge damage with anything. Anyway, I would try getting a good spear. Yeah, hurthling weaponsmiths are fun. Homework is not meant for home! It's a sick verbal coincidence! -My brother |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4240 days, 11 hours, 26 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
Ironfist and bracers of war are a great couple of artifacts to have. Be carefully wearing those and the invisibility cloak and being a troll though - you could end up starving to death. I recommend only using the cloak when you need to be extra careful (like going through the small cave). Trollish healers in Candle are good early on, but they stagnate fairly quickly. If you're after a more well-rounded character go for Drakish healers born in candle - they're almost as tough and fast-healing as trolls, but with extra learning and mana, way better pp recovery, some nice skills and the ability to acid-spit. And most importantly they don't take forever to increase in levels. still, good luck with the troll. Hopefully you'll find some decent weapons or armour soon, especially when you get into the CoC. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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FUNKtional Key Registered user A Die-Hard Tactician Last page view: 5790 days, 2 hours, 56 minutes and 14 seconds ago. |
trollish healer is a guaranteed win if u r careful with ghosts All roads lead to chaos, in the end. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/13/2006 at 16:13 (GMT -5) by FUNKtional Key] |
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gravel Registered user if i'm not ADOMing i'm working Last page view: 5870 days, 34 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
i got close to precrowning in puppy cave but ran out of stuff to sac and now with a few more artifacts generated i'll have to keep a big stash of stuff to sac when i find the next alter, yeah i'm no caster yet. and yes i kill stuff easy with any weapon and my hp rarely takes any damage but a decent weapon is still useful. Thanks for the input guys The stone giant runs away in fear. Who ever heard of a stone being scared of gravel? |
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gravel Registered user if i'm not ADOMing i'm working Last page view: 5870 days, 34 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
still going strong, found a pool and got telport control, teleportis, death ray resistance, fire immunity level 1, hawkslayer password and finally a wish. well that fixes the prob i had before when i summoned a dinjinn so i got me some red dragon scale armors <-- plural, i got 3. i'm using sword atm because all spears i found are poor quality. nothing seems a problem at the moment, ghosts, specters, ghuls all fall very easily. hmmm sooner or later rng is going to turn on me and give me a room full of something nasty i'm sure. more updates to follow , almost forgot, just made it to the dwarf town, i wonder what creature the elder guy gives me to kill. i wonder if you can get a quest to kill a dwarven elder lol The stone giant runs away in fear. Who ever heard of a stone being scared of gravel? |
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Cat Lord Lord Registered user Not really Last page view: 5446 days, 4 hours, 27 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Ok, just wondering, why get RDSA?? (Red dragon scale armor). If you need a weapon, you should have gone eternium spears, swords of sharpness. (Spears is great DV and 2d8+10. Swords is 4d8). Sooner or later you would have found a good armor. Homework is not meant for home! It's a sick verbal coincidence! -My brother |
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gravel Registered user if i'm not ADOMing i'm working Last page view: 5870 days, 34 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
well i needed a good weapon and good armor and tower of flames always gives me grief. sooner or later i'll get a good weapon from a quest but dont get armor from quests so thats why i chose the armor well the ancient dwarf asked me to kill a giant rat. so i went down a level and there i saw one, i also saw a room full of stone snakes and a room full of ghosts and a mixed tension room - thanks rng. still not close to a crowning, very little cash and i'm at the inner strength message. more to follow The stone giant runs away in fear. Who ever heard of a stone being scared of gravel? |
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Sirrocco Unregistered user |
For what it's worth, Troll Healers also get some very nice skill sets. You get both of healing and herbalism. You get all of the combat-applicable nonguaranteed skills except dodge (or alchemy). You get both food preservation and cooking. Your troll has literacy from the beginning and your healer starts with a solid weapon. If you're an obsessive beginning-game completist, you actually have a decent shot at generating small cave, grabbing pick pockets, generating living puppy, generating decently low-level Black Druid, killing off Kranach and still making it through the small cave to the unremarkable alive in the beginning game. It's not trivial, but with the overpowered, high exp cost nature of the Troll, it's doable. If you play with scummed questions, you can afford to hose everything except your Str and Sta (with dex in third). Your combat power and PV will see you through far enough to get shield, spear, and then moss up your dex. Your learning won't matter until you actually want to start using spells. Mana's easy (if repetetive) to raise with book casting, and Cha and App just don't matter. There are reasons it's almost cheating. Admittedly, the slow growth catches up with you, the age means that you have to pay close attention to not getting hit by ghosts and can't drink pools, and you have to worry a bit more about food, but nothing's *perfect*. Personally, I'm playing them and liking them, but that's mostly because I'm going with the "dying can be fun" school of learning the game. My most recent promising character was doing great until he came down with a bad case of "Oh. *That's* what the CoC graveyard is like." Stat-draining is *not* your friend. |
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Red October Registered user Last page view: 5674 days, 3 hours, 2 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
CoC graveyard stopped my last candle-born trollish healer. He was going great guns until that point though. Absolutely ripped apart anything that got in his way. I remembered I had named him Creb after the character in Jean M. Auel's "Clan of the Cave Bear". Just walked on anything and everything up until those damned undead... Battle Bunny: "Ach, maybe his Christian altar was stepped on. By a moloch." |
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gravel Registered user if i'm not ADOMing i'm working Last page view: 5870 days, 34 minutes and 37 seconds ago. |
well ghostlords were not a problem. just when i thought the rng had given me grief with jibbering mouths i head down past the animated forrest and a quickling queen hits me 7 times as i open a door and she is standing on the other side. well the armor did its best but its all over. I didnt even get a chance to shoot her, hit her or cast a spell at her. ohh well might take a break for a while. good while it lasted but too good to last. rng always evens the score The stone giant runs away in fear. Who ever heard of a stone being scared of gravel? |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5142 days, 17 hours, 21 minutes and 4 seconds ago. |
I'm playing a Troll Beastfighter now. Funny, when I started the game Trolls were sooo cool, natural healing and high str/to. Then I found about that exp thing, and had a lot more success with other characters. However now I'm back to this Troll, for the challenge of it. Beastfighter means I need to get very close to my enemies most of the time too. I'm doing pretty good, got precrowned with hammerhead (unlimited pickaxe, I really like this. Gives unlimited smithing) and I found a surge of power in animated forest -> whirlwind. Decent, and I thought it would be good for the ToEF. I almost missed out on surge of power, because I fast-forwarded through the message when I first entered the forest (living trees bla bla etc.) I went thru DH, like always, but on the level below DH:2 I found myself blocked off from the DH-stairs by a gorgon I did not wish to fight at that time, so I went the safe way back thru forest. Halfway through forest I see a stone golem, and then suddenly notice it has a name... lucky break there. (Otherwise I would have gone through DH all the time) About level 9-10 I fought a ghost, but I must have been very unlucky with rolls, it hit me 2-3 times, sending me into old age before I could kill it. Luckily I had long-lived as a starting talent, that may have saved me. The old age actually allowed me to train toughness with herbs (aided by sickness), so when I finally got literate and could ID my stuff (had to kill a cave lion, but I had stupidly killed a cat before, so no deal) I found I had one Potion of youth. Drinking that for middle-aged, and suddenly very good toughness. DH:2 was good to me, found some chaos knights which dropped eternium plate and a hat. I smithed some nice gear, adamantium girdle, mithril boots, eternium cap. I set up a gremlin-trap on DH:1, got another potion of youth from that. Along with the usual good stuff, amulet of life saving and potions and scrolls. Saved khelly, killed water temple easy, then just did fire tower now. Melee'd the wyrm to death, no sweat at all. On the way out my red dragon scale mail melted, but put on some fire resistant rings and no worry there. Heading down into CoC now, got missile weapons well trained. I havent decided wether to go for ultra yet. I'm sitting at N=, with 300000 gold, but I'm still sitting on the fence for now. I'll see if I can complete an ultra chaos god. Last time I went toe-to-head with Andor with a beastfighter (gnome) I died horribly, due to not wielding a slaying weapon. And mabye too low speed. And too little missile training. I even got a spare djinni summoning ring, and been thinking what to wish for. I have a ring of weakness. I could wish for 7lb, but that would cost me [+6,+4] from smithed boots, and beastfighters got 700 power movement cost anyway. So mabye not. I might wish for find weakness too, and I'm thinking that this would be good the whole game. Or I could save it for a wish for highlevel monsters if I need exp to gain level 45. I guess Ill see what casino holds before I decide. |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5142 days, 17 hours, 21 minutes and 4 seconds ago. |
Well spank my butt and call me Charlie. I own! I mean I won! Now! I only managed a regular ending, because the demented ratling was nowhere to be found. Mabye some of the do-goody dwarves finally killed him. Or the demon which I used to kill the smith. The WAY hardest fight in the game was the cat lord. He was so fast I couldn't run and shoot him, so I took him in melee. Drank about 10 big healing potions. I'd only killed around 10 cats, but still...shudder. I used my wish for find weakness, to get more criticals to hurt the big high-PV monsters more often. All temples were easy. In fact everything was easy, except cat lord. And D:50, but that wasn't hard, just tedious. I had to use a lot of scrolls of chaos resistance (Was only level 25 when I entered, so no unicorn quest) to stay alive and well. Balors took a while to kill, but were never dangerous. I killed all ghost lords with missiles. I blasted the levers with wand of destruction, but still cleared the level. (Once closed, corruption wasn't that bad. Only balor attacks corrupted me) After closing gate I did blue dragon cave without any problems, but didn't bother to wait for level 45 so I could kill emperor moloch. I won at level 36. Even found another djinni ring later, wished for "beauty" :). For a better afterlife. To sum it up: Extremely easy starting game. Then had to figure out stuff to do before taking pyramid. Very easy game after that too, but the high-level areas were a bit of a challenge, due to being so low level that my beastfighter-class-hit&dam-bonus was pretty low. It would have been a lot faster with a level 40+ gnome than my 25 troll. And nearly died to ONE ghost, and was severely/medium/lightly aged the rest of the game (only found 2 youth potions) |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5614 days, 18 hours, 23 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
Regarding watching out for ghosts, at least in 1.0.0 ghosts don't see invisible so a char could use invisibility and bolt spells (or high level destroy undead) to take out the ghosts one at a time. Don't know about 1.1.x and higher ranking ghosts, though. Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4150 days, 16 hours, 43 minutes and 32 seconds ago. |
as far as i remember none of the aging monsters can see invisible in adom 1.1.1 edit: and sorry for my english, that sort of double neagtives are pretty okay in my native language. A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) [Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/20/2006 at 16:32 (GMT -5) by Soirana] |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5614 days, 18 hours, 23 minutes and 17 seconds ago. |
Eh ? None don't see ? So in 1.1.1 all aging monsters see invisible ? Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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 Kirbot Registered user BattleHax0r of Devastation Last page view: 5885 days, 19 hours, 38 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
That ain't what he's sayin' J. What thar chap's o'er thar's sayin' izzat ghosts dun see ye when ye're invisable. He'z jus' usin' a dubble negitive, it ain't 'is meanin'. 'Ope this 'ere clears eet all up. :P Molach: "I like to have 200+ hp and over 5 good healin potions when I do [the fire] temple. AND some way of killing the Wyrm" Morio: "Some way of killing the worm is recommended, yes :D" |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5142 days, 17 hours, 21 minutes and 4 seconds ago. |
Yeah, okay, didn't know that. I thought the high ones did. But, I'd still need to kill them so I had to become visible to them. Because he had the magic talent of a travelling insurance salesman. Which is not much. And I had not much wand-power either due to absorbing mana..So I did them safe enough in missile mode. One lucky hit from a lord could have killed poor Brag. Now I must win with a monk, see which is cooler. Not gonna play Troll now, though! Orc might be the closest, same Ghost-fear there. |