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witchdocta Unregistered user |
Hi, Now this is going to sound totally absurd, vut I`ve been playing ADOM for quite some time now, but I still can`t perfectly understand damage dice. Let`s look at a flail (+0, 2d4+2). So the first +0 means that it has no bonus to hit, and the +2 in the end is the extra damage that is added to the main damage. But 2d4 - what does it stand for? That two 4-sided dice are rolled? What are the numbers on 4-sided dice? Does it do usually more damage, than say a quarterstaff (+0, 1d10+2)? If it`s a 10-sided dice, what are the numbers on that dice ? 1-10? |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3123 days, 5 hours, 4 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
What do you mean "what are the numbers on 4 sided dice"? When I read that I imagined a d4 with 100, 64, X, and a batman symbol on the sides :P Dice are numbered from 1 up. That's the only logically possible way. A quarterstaff (+0, 1d10+2) does 3-12 damage with even distribution (1/10 chance for both 3 and 12 damage). A flail (+0, 2d4+2) does 4-10 damage with uneven distribution (1/16 chance for 4 and 10 damage and 4/16 chances for 7 damage). A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/16/2009 at 13:30 (GMT -5) by Maelstrom] |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4155 days, 14 hours, 51 minutes and 48 seconds ago. |
Flail average damage is 7 Staff 7.5 So overall Staff is slightly better, although flail damage is more likely to be closer to average value. When ofcourse you need figure out things like wepon class (staves have better bonuses on improving weapon mastery) and onehander vs twohander. Flail and a shield beats staff [usually]. dN is supposed to be N sided dice with sides numbered 1-N. (although three sided dice is more often made as six sided with oposite sides having same numbers) Four sided dice in paper RNG is just good old pyramid http://images.google.lt/images?hl=lt&q=four+sided+dice&btnG=Ie%C5%A1koti+paveiksl%C4%97li%C5%B3&gbv=2 A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3123 days, 5 hours, 4 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Soirana - Pyramids have 5 sides :P A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4245 days, 9 hours, 34 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
Not triangular-based pyramids... Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3123 days, 5 hours, 4 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
I've yet to see a real-life pyramid in the shape of a tetrahedron. A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4245 days, 9 hours, 34 minutes and 57 seconds ago. |
Go buy a 4-sided dice then! Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3123 days, 5 hours, 4 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
That's not a pyramid, that's a dice. Pyramids are buildings :P A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4155 days, 14 hours, 51 minutes and 48 seconds ago. |
qouting wiki: "A pyramid is a building where the outer surfaces are triangular and converge at a point. The base of pyramids are usually quadrilateral or TRILATERAL (but may be of any polygon shape), meaning that a pyramid usually has FOUR or five faces." In real life: a)Mars, Cedonia - it was supossed to be tetrahedron (oftenly called three sided mid, since usually basis is not counted as side) b) http://www.nvcc.edu/home/cbentley/dc_rocks/ part seven. Apparently they do happen in nature. c) http://www.daylife.com/photo/0cyCacSgyU5EG humans build them too. d) masons liked them http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/english_fob_collection.htm e) and some say we have them http://hubpages.com/hub/Functions-of-Liver Any of these counts as real-life? A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/18/2009 at 06:26 (GMT -5) by Soirana] |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3123 days, 5 hours, 4 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Nope :D None of those photos are even close regular tetrahedrons and only 1 is a building. The Ryugyong Hotel has a much more complicated shape.' P.S. I'm a natural born troll, don't waste your time arguing with me ;) A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4155 days, 14 hours, 51 minutes and 48 seconds ago. |
When i have not seen 4sided [rectangular based] mids in *real life*. p.s. Sorry, did not know you trying to live without liver:) A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) [Edited 1 time, last edit on 1/18/2009 at 11:10 (GMT -5) by Soirana] |