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Elija Registered user Last page view: 5450 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
Can anyone give me some advice for clearing it? Just RIPed a very nice wizard there. Was trying to get SoCR to cure poisoned hands ... There goes my only char who managed to kill ACW. The bugs seemed to survive my Ice Ball +10 too easy ( Is Fire Ball any better against them? Or something else? Darkness maybe? |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4251 days, 20 hours, 53 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
What level were you? If it was less than 45 then it was too early :) You need 7LBs, Wi over 32 (preferably over 48), wand of door creation to lock in some of the rooms and plenty of DV and HP for when things go wrong. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Elija Registered user Last page view: 5450 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
I was 24 ) DV was 94 (Coward Tactics) though. Ye, now I see that was stupid. Should have run away when two killer bugs left me with 20 hp. High Wi - for radius of Ball spells, I guess? |
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Z Unregistered user |
Don't train on the upper level (by killing bugs) before descending to the lower level for the first time, or the bugs below will get stronger because of uberjackal effect. I think I was just fast and killed them with missiles... alternatively, learn music and tame a killer. |
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Z Unregistered user |
And I personally go to the Bug Temple in order to train Dexterity and Speed. High willpower does not help in this, as you lose it in the process anyway (but regain it quite easily with morgia). |
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Aragorn Registered user Last page view: 4871 days, 6 hours, 15 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
I would recommend a DV of 150, wand of fireballs and potions of boost willpower. Wi=32 is sufficient for the room. In the big room just nuke them standing outside the entrance using any wand (fire,MM,etc.) while in coward mode. |
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Elija Registered user Last page view: 5450 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
> Don't train on the upper level (by killing bugs) before descending to the lower level Well, I just cleared the upper level from killers, descended and got ripped apart in 3 or 4 turns =) Overconfidence and excitement make a terrible pair ... > I would recommend a DV of 150 Wow, that's a lot ) Like, stave/polearm mastery at 15+, maxed out Dodge and Tactics, defensive talents taken + high DEX? [Edited 1 time, last edit on 5/22/2009 at 10:17 (GMT -5) by Elija] |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4251 days, 20 hours, 53 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
150 DV is easy enough to get with some good armour, a well trained shield, decent Dx and full Tactics. Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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gut Registered user Painted this one too. Last page view: 4909 days, 23 hours, 10 minutes and 46 seconds ago. |
Or just play ADOM version 1.0.0, where a single spellbook of darkness makes you RULER. Put me in the 'fool filter', where I belong! |
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Elija Registered user Last page view: 5450 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
Thank you all for your advices! And... This is really off-topic, but i don't want to open 200 threads ) Is there any other way to get rid of invisibility intrinsic except of drinking from pools? |
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Molach Registered user Lord of DurisMud Last page view: 5154 days, 2 hours, 48 minutes and 13 seconds ago. |
Die. A potion of visibility will temporarily remove it. |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4162 days, 2 hours, 10 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
drinking more pools? A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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 littlebrather Registered user Last page view: 4815 days, 21 hours, 20 minutes and 51 seconds ago. |
wear cursed ring of Inv - the best way IMO until it sleep |
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Elija Registered user Last page view: 5450 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
2 littlebrather: Thanks a lot! I just need to find ring of invisibility now... |
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ADOMlover Unregistered user |
Cursed ring of invisibilty does not work. I just tried it. The was an invisibility ring in Dwarven shop. I found a hag and stripped down, took everthing off except the ring. She cursed the ring. Went and talked to Dak(?) at the arena wearing the cursed rinf of invisibility... Still wouldn't let me in. :( |
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Jhonka Registered user Kickass player Last page view: 5368 days, 20 hours, 53 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
For the bug temple and ruins, all you need is any of the bolt spells with decent castings(ANY one of them will work!) and a pair of blessed 7lb. You need to be able to survive 3-4 attacks from gcb:s while coward, not being completely sucky will cover that, and a wand of door creation with 10 or so charges for locking in the bugs thus preventing them from bloking your way. I normally clear the cave as the first thing when I get hold of 7lb, which at best, has been at lvl 15 with a necromancer(got 2 or 3 levels from clearing the cave). I'd advice to have stealth atleast 80, so the killer bugs will simply wait in their rooms for you to lock them in with a door. Later, blasting them into oblivion will be a breeze. The level of the bolt spell makes very little difference, since a lvl 1 magic missile will kill them with 2 or 3 hits! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 5/25/2009 at 13:52 (GMT -5) by Jhonka] |
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Elija Registered user Last page view: 5450 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
ADOMlover: I gave up that idea, too. Went to DF and dried all pools. Lost TP control, Lucky and Fate Smiles, got cursed and doomed, but still managed to become visible again =) 5 minutes later i found potion of education, drank it and got Tactics ... RNG's really a bitch =) |
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Aragorn Registered user Last page view: 4871 days, 6 hours, 15 minutes and 40 seconds ago. |
If you want temporary visibility, like for completing arena quest, then a blessed potion of visbility is all you would need. Otherwise, just like you found out, its PITA to get rid of it. Pools is the only option. |
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ADOMLover Unregistered user |
Aragorn, That's IF you can find potions of visibility. I found one and used it. The blessed potions are only good for a couple of combats in the Arena. I'm currently stuck in ID seeking a Ring of Ice for TOEF. I've found SLB, ALOS (x2) and Girdle of Carrying ( ALL found finally at 17th level!). RNG has not been kind to me this game. :( |
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Darren Grey Registered user Last page view: 4251 days, 20 hours, 53 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
You have SLB and 2x AoLS and have perma-invis and the RNG is not being nice to you? Gee, I'd hate to see it on a bad day. Ring of Ice: Unnecessary Arena: Unnecessary If you play the game as a "tick all the boxes to progress" quest then you're going to have a very boring time! Waldenbrook, the dwarven shopkeeper, mumbles: "I'd offer 9 gold pieces for yer dwarven child corpse." |
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Elija Registered user Last page view: 5450 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
But if you are not prepared extremely well for ToEF, the game will be kinda short ) I agree though, ring of ice is unnecessary, especially if you are a spellcaster. Perma-invis is a very annoying thing IMO. It takes forever to chase monsters all over the level instead of having them run happily right to your hits/spells. |
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 Maul Registered user [banned user] Last page view: 4940 days, 21 hours, 19 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
And what I hate to see is people complaining of perma-invis being bad because monsters don't come right to you. You might as well whine about the ASB because it's not a one-hit kill. 1l= Y0(_) [4l\l R34[) 7l-l15, Y0(_) l\/l(_)57 83 PR377Y G00[). |
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Elija Registered user Last page view: 5450 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
No complaining ) I just don't see any real benefits from it. When I'm in desperate need of invis, i usually have no problem casting it / drinking potion. When I don't need it, I don't want it. |
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ADOMlover Unregistered user |
I was mainly complaining about not getting the AOLS, SLB, etc until 17th level. As a Troll Thief, leveling is slow. I can live without 7LB and AOLS, but Ring of Ice is vital. Agreed Arena is not necessary, but Ring of ICE is Very necessary for TOEF (IMHO). I won't go in without one. Perma-invisible is a great thing! |
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Maul Registered user [banned user] Last page view: 4940 days, 21 hours, 19 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
Recently I've had a lv20-ish human fighter go in there with only fireproof gear (robes of resistance, ankh, some adamantium/eternium girdle and cap, mithril boots, rings under elemental gauntlets, eternium long sword, tower crystal shield), no healing at all, and he wiped the floor with the ToEF (the ACW was a bit nasty, but I had good enough PV). Be happy if you get a fireproof blanket. As it stands, I now have ~3 rings of ice with the character. 1l= Y0(_) [4l\l R34[) 7l-l15, Y0(_) l\/l(_)57 83 PR377Y G00[). |
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Soirana Registered user Chaos Freak Last page view: 4162 days, 2 hours, 10 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
some classes get blankets from dwarven elder and some don't... These who don';t get higher metal gear but i still consider them being screwed on generation... A root is a flower that disdains fame. Kahlil Gibran(1883-1931) |
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vogonpoet Registered user Last page view: 4969 days, 4 hours, 24 minutes and 34 seconds ago. |
yeah if the higher metal gear was just slightly higher.... |
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ADOMlover Unregistered user |
Maul, You're right. I think I will just go in with Artifacts and higher metals. I'll leave the 7LB behind, just in case. I've found blessed wands of Cold work well in TOEF. I have about 5 Fireproof blankets now. |