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benno the Mad Unregistered user |
Hey, trying to play this with a Trollish Wizard... the keyword is trying. I start off, read what i have, then head to the small cave of level 6 death. usually, thats where it ends. sometimes - not often - i survive to lvl six, then do the mad carpenter quest and head off to the chaos caves (the one with the arena) around level 8-10, and that is as far as i've ever gotten. I figure i'm doing something terribly, terribly wrong because i've never had a char get to lvl 20. |
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Hatefulgravey Registered user Last page view: 5348 days, 2 hours, 52 minutes and 28 seconds ago. |
Don't feel bad, I've been playing for 10 years and I have gotten one character that I can remember past lvl 15. Maybe I just need to put real effort into learning the hundreds of pages of information need to win. I'll go out on a limb and say your first problem is the tollish wizzard. I don't have alot of good example and such to give, but troll and wizard never really go well together. As far as spell casters go, when I was just into the game I played Gnomish Elementalist. They seems alot easier to get going. Playing for 10 years, got nothing to show for it. |
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Taz Registered user Registered user Last page view: 5038 days, 8 hours, 20 minutes and 59 seconds ago. |
a few suggestions: - try a different class (druids are very good for beginners) - skip the small cave - gain your first few levels in the infinite cave and dont worry, the great majority of characters die at low levels. Taz: A potion of gain attributes (4s) is lying here. Suddenly a stone block hits your head! Something on the ground is smashed to pieces! PeanutGod: Awwww no! How harsh is that! This is where you need the artefact 'mop and bucket'. |
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psy_wombats Registered user Untitled Last page view: 5349 days, 3 hours, 20 minutes and 30 seconds ago. |
Actually, trollish wizard is an excellent class, but you might run into issues with food and xp levels as a beginner. Trollish priests are very nice... And try the month of the Candle. Really helps early-game. WHEN WOMBATS STRIKE! Enjoy your last days... |
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Molach unplugged Unregistered user |
SMC is pretty decent place for trolls, as they level slow. Just do a quick sweep of the place, then butt out of there. After completing the SMC you should go elsewhere. Go to a bandit village and talk to a master thief. Talk to the druid (not village chief) in terinyo. Even try to walk westwards to a "forboding place" and give that place a good run-to. You are not doing anything terribly wrong. Your troll will not reach level 20 before a lot of the game is finished, that is how they are. If you played a , say, hurthling wizard you should get to levels over 20 easier. But do not take them to the small cave unless you like to regenerate chars a lot. |
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Molach still unplugg Unregistered user |
Your goal is mainly "get tough enough to survive the game", and this goal you can accomplish without doing any missions (although some of them helps) I forgot to add, as a new-ish player using wizards you can walk around in the ever-changing cave, levels 1-5 for example, and pick up & read books. Once you get most of the spells you can handle most situations a lot easier. Also try to find and wield a one-handed weapon, get hold of a shield, find some basic armor items. Keep killing monsters and build up your strength. Trolls get hungry fast, I would instead recommend the almost-as-tough but less-hungry race of dwarf. Take talents 'hardy' -> 'tough skin' -> 'iron skin' -> 'mithril skin' -> 'steel skin' as soon as you can, and you will be pretty well protected. Naked. |
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benno the mad Unregistered user |
Thanks for the advice. I've stopped using the troll wizard - too much death is bit demoralising. Troll beastfighter seems to work well (fighting through the arena, getting to dwarf village)... the last one i had was killed by a water grue in a monster room. the first character i had that got that far was an orc healer. |
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Mol without the plug Unregistered user |
Hurm. Water grue are very dangerous, as you noticed. With a beastfighter you should be able to outrun it, and that is what you need to do, sometimes. 5 levels later you would have pasted it all over the floor. Part of ADOM learning is also learning which monster to fight, and which to run from. I seem to nag about trolls, but you may have noticed the slow levelling they get. Level real slow. Beastfighter is a class that gets _very_ nice boni to their attack as they level up, so they actaully want to level up as much as they can. When beastfighing with a troll, you will stagnate around level 11-12, not seem to get much stronger, and be ...lured... to drift into no-go hard areas. And there you will die. Good beastly classes are dwarf, drakeling (acid spit trades food for a non-fail acid ranged attack that improves with level), orc. If you can survive a weak start - try dark elf or gnome beastfighter. Yes, gnome. Try it. |