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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5766 days, 2 hours, 32 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
Since everyone on the newsgroup just ignored my question about the precise rules of the Plutonium Man challenge, I thought I'd post it here. For those who don't know, the Plutonium Man challenge can roughly be described as "kill at least one of every single monster". Sadly, this isn't possible (for example, you cannot kill both an old crone and an Elder Chaos God). So it turns into "kill as many different types of monster as possible". One interpretation of this rule obliges you to take the carpenter quest, because it gives you both a healer and a carpenter to kill, while the druid quest only gives you a black druid. What are the ethics of using wishes when trying this challenge? It would be nice if you could let the "real" cute dog die and wish up another one to kill, and talk to the real dwarven mystic but kill a wished-for one, but it feels a bit like cheating. Has anyone actually tried this challenge yet? I think I might attempt it if I get sick of gray elven paladins. (I'm playing them because nobody's won with one yet, but they have very low toughness and tend to get killed.) |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7762 days, 21 hours, 54 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
Cool challenge. But what with Cursed man challenge, when you must have only cursed equipment, you couldn't use blessed items, no uncursed, food only cursed, et caetera, when PC gains some cool stuff and wants keep it in backpack he must curse it, dip in unholy water or read cursed scroll of uncursing. If not, he must drop this item:). Another challenge "fat man" this is idea of one of my friends, when you must eat all corpses that have you found. Tension rooms with kobolds would be very deadly:) Corpses of orb guardians too:) (once my necro ate corpse of Keriax (11 coruption effects) and Nuurag-Vaarn (only 7 coruption efects).... It's very powerful and corrupting thing. But Keriax I ate before entering the Chaos gate is nice for being extremally corrupted;) And my private challenge - ultimate chaos, true paragon of chaos, when PC makes only chaotic acts. It rules out being true paragon of Order or Balance nor having platinium girdle:))) "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/22/2002 at 15:39 (GMT -5) by BM] |
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Jan Erik Administrator Last page view: 1 day and 40 minutes ago. |
Regarding the wished for monsters: I think that would be ok, wishes are not that common, but if the game allow you to wish for someone I don't see the real problem... ... Unless the "official" rules explicitly says you can't wish for monsters. Using the temp file cheat to back up dwarftown, kill everyone and then restore the "unspoiled" city on the other hand would defenently be cheating (guess they would still be hostile though, there is probably some global variable involved in that particular case)... Jan Erik Mydland HoF admin [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/14/2002 at 18:50 (GMT -5) by Jan Erik] |
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Locke Registered user Treasure hunter Last page view: 7899 days, 4 hours, 22 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
IMO, wishing for monsters that are available to you without wishing should not be allowed. It is a challange after all. :) Locke Cole |
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Ekaterin Moderator on this forum Last page view: 5766 days, 2 hours, 32 minutes and 10 seconds ago. |
Do you mean no wishing for monsters at all? That would make the challenge very tedious, because you'd have to hang out for ages waiting for rare monsters like solars and ki-rins to be generated. Or perhaps no wishing for unique monsters (you can wish for a ki-rin if that's the only way you'll find one, but you can't wish for a cute dog just because you don't like doing the puppy cave that early). Or maybe no wishing for monsters which you can _guarantee_ to find some other way? That would mean that if a lawful god always sends solars against you when you make him REALLY mad (just an example - details may be wrong), then you may not wish for a solar, you must get one by angering a lawful god. |
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Crimson King Registered user Last page view: 6321 days, 11 hours, 35 minutes and 19 seconds ago. |
Umm, I've tried to get my deity hating me after I was crowned... first he just destroyed my stuff, then zapped me with lighting couple times (immunity helps), then started summoning wraiths... nothing more... bleh, lots of corpses, lots of toughness, lots of alignment changes. Joka vitsaa säästää, saa kaatumataudin |
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Tha Messiah Registered user Angel of Death Last page view: 7777 days, 18 hours, 59 minutes and 9 seconds ago. |
Sounds interesting.But mabye It'll be better if you could wish for non unique monsters.I havent even seen a ki-rin yet. One major problem in this game is that time it would take.Both real time and game time.The other being that the char will more often than not end up chatoic.What with having to kill inhabitants of Dwarftown n Teriyno.What bout the dwarven mistic.Does this mean that you have to kill the mistic and sacrifice the artifact or the scrools/potions.This also means going into places where you wouldnt normally go such as Scintillating cave,maze,stone circle. Crimson when you make a lawful god angry its quite irritating.Those Solars are difficult. THE MESSIAH,I'm here now,Worship me. |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7762 days, 21 hours, 54 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
Emperor minotaur is posible to wish "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" |
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 Dougy Registered user What is the deal with cards? Last page view: 5830 days, 9 hours, 47 minutes and 47 seconds ago. |
hrmmm wishing for the minotaur emperor yields minotaur kings... wishing for emperor minotaur gets interpreted as wishing for minotaur emperor. I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be able to wish for things in that challange... it's not mentioned anywhere wishing = bad DougyDougy - Dougy - DougyDougy |
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Jan Erik Administrator Last page view: 1 day and 40 minutes ago. |
There was a Plutonium man VP on the newsgroup recently and no one seemed to mind that he wished for about 10 monsters... Jan Erik Mydland HoF admin |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3756 days, 5 hours and 41 minutes ago. |
Hey, just getting wishes is hard enough! It should be counted a victory, but I'd have more respect for someone who didn't wish for things. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Duke Ravage Registered user Gravebane Zombie Last page view: 5663 days, 9 hours and 44 seconds ago. |
is the carpenter wish-able? if so you could kill both a mad carpenter and a normal carpenter... ivan.sourceforge.net |
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Iridia_ Unregistered user |
Nope. Nothing happens. |
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BM Registered user The Necromancer Last page view: 7762 days, 21 hours, 54 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
Hmmmmm <Plutonium man VP on the newsgroup" Hmmmmm great killing list, but where is master thief of Lawenilothehl???? He was a only a member not a head of thiev guild??? "Insect, we care not for thee. Disturb us any we will extingwish thy weak candle of life" [Edited 1 time, last edit on 3/22/2002 at 15:49 (GMT -5) by BM] |
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Locke Registered user Treasure hunter Last page view: 7899 days, 4 hours, 22 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
Yeah I meant that wishing for monsters that can be generated is kinda no-no. Locke Cole |