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kAEZAR Unregistered user |
what would be a best first kill...so you could get courage and whateverthedangeonwas on a sidequestion...how many large dogs in dongeons... |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 18 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
I always try to get an outlaw as first kill if I'm playing something strong or start with a bolt spell. If I'm feeling my character started a bit weak I go for a bandit. If you want the filk quest, never choose an assassin! on the other hand if you just want courage it's not a bad choice as you can easily get 20 of them in the assassins' guild. large dogs are a good choice if you want both quests - you can find them easily enough in the wilderness and they are quite rare in dungeons - checking some level 50 flgs i see about 15 killed. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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C Registered user Last page view: 6504 days, 5 hours, 43 minutes and 56 seconds ago. |
Or you could find assassins on the wilderness roads. |
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TheTimpen Registered user Last page view: 7060 days, 2 hours, 36 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
giant frogs are pretty rare and can be found easily in the swamp. |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 18 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
searching for them in swamps you're also liable to find undead parties, which will kick your ass at level 1 (besides being bad first kills) What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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kAEZAR Unregistered user |
gonna stick with large dogs then... |
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Armada Registered user Last page view: 1436 days, 17 hours, 46 minutes and 29 seconds ago. |
I enjoy skeletons or zombies really as courage only kills. By the time you have 500 kills you should be able to do the dwarven graveyard, and plenty of those nasties around |
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Deaneus Registered user Accountant of War Last page view: 7105 days, 16 hours, 31 minutes and 2 seconds ago. |
I'll go with TheTimpen on that one, a big fan of Giant Frogs personally. What do you wish for? _Drew Barrymore figurine |
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TheTimpen Registered user Last page view: 7060 days, 2 hours, 36 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
If you meet a undead party and are unable to run away, die and create a new char. It's only lvl 1 :p |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5875 days, 33 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
How about gremlins? Not very common normally, but you sure know where to find 20 of them if need be :P If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 18 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
yeah, but that puts you out of being able to get the phial of caladriel, or from gremlin-scumming if you need an AOLS etc. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Gozer Unregistered user |
IMHO a mugger is the best first kill - if one is randomly generated in Lawenilothehl. They are hardly ever generated elsewhere in the game but can be easily triggered by robbing a shop - thus, making it very easy to kill Filk and get courage thereafter. |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 18 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Doesn't robbing shops generate thugs? besides, I like to get the courage skill as early on as possible, at which point robbing a shop is not a good idea. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3966 days, 14 hours, 23 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
Yes, it generates thugs; and that's the only way to generate them. Outlaw is a good first kill, if you get Courage before level 15; because they hang around in the hills and you can kill enough for Courage in three encounters or so. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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raven1 Unregistered user |
assasins are the best by FAR, you kill 1, good when you need courage you need 30+those rare ones whacked in dungeons, making the Filk dive reasonable. <dont see a lot of ultras w/ "rats" as a first kill> you chose when to get courage, <when you NEED IT> and about then the unicorne thing is there, so it makes sense to control your kill to make all the mid game options easier, besides by the time it matters you have skills at 100, Courage is the latest and NEEDED...imho |
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Gozer Unregistered user |
Oops - my bad. You are right, Alex. |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 18 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
no, assassins are NOT a good first kill for the filk quest. why? because to receive that quest, you have to fight your way through THE ASSASSINS' GUILD, which, oddly enough, is FULL OF ASSASSINS. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5875 days, 33 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
So? You need to kill 20 anyway to get courage, so might as well go down there and kill them. One room that's in VDDL that is full of them doesn't need to be emptied, and there's even a few master assassins in there. You won't find Filk in ID:21, but you don't usually kill any ridiculous numbers of assassins during a game I think. If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 18 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
i think my last ultra winner killed over 100 assassins, although that may not have been necessary. it just seems like a bad idea to me anyway. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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Naiyor Registered user Last page view: 2096 days, 1 hour, 12 minutes and 20 seconds ago. |
My favourite first kill is the old barbarian (if i can pull it off... its an instant 10 lev gain for a new char, althourg it stops you from getting courage) Otherwise I try to get an assassin as a first kill |
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Knud Registered user non-ghost librarian Last page view: 5895 days, 8 hours, 38 minutes and 44 seconds ago. |
Another good thing about having an outlaw as a first kill is that just north of the old barbarian is a road. This road is usually packed with outlaw bands just waiting to ambush your sorry character. This way you can get the courage skill almost directly after your visit to the barbarian, without spending much game-time (roads are quick!), and still have no problem finishing the Filk-quest. You know you've played too much ADOM when you try to throw coins at people wearing similar clothes as yourself. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3966 days, 14 hours, 23 minutes and 31 seconds ago. |
The road is dangerous though. If you get stuck in the middle of a gnoll warband or chaos monk pilgrimage with a weak char, make sure you have an invisibility potion to sneak your way back out again with. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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kAEZAR Unregistered user |
found a thug in DH:2 , so the shop robbing is not the only way. |
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Alex Registered user Master Necromancer Last page view: 6719 days, 18 minutes and 50 seconds ago. |
Good luck getting to DH:2 without killing anything. What do you wish for? wands of cat repellent_ |
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kAEZAR Unregistered user |
im just saying that the shop robbing is not the only way to find thugs to kill. |
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Zest Registered user Last page view: 7343 days, 13 hours, 26 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
Cute dog as the first kill... Who thinks it's impossible? LOL! What do you wish for? Live long and happy thereafter_ |
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Maelstrom Registered user The Knight of the Black Rose Last page view: 3328 days, 1 hour, 8 minutes and 33 seconds ago. |
It's not impossible. It should be possible to get Andor Drakon as first kill too if one knows how to play bards ;) A pessimist sees a dark tunnel. An optimist sees a light at the end of that tunnel. A realist sees a train. And the train driver sees three idiots on the tracks. |
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Zest Registered user Last page view: 7343 days, 13 hours, 26 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
Ok, i'm going to create a Bugtamer... What do you wish for? Live long and happy thereafter_ |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 4109 days, 3 hours, 55 minutes and 21 seconds ago. |
Maelstrom wrote: "It's not impossible. It should be possible to get Andor Drakon as first kill too if one knows how to play bards ;)" How would you get past D:50, without killing anything. Maybe scrolls of familiar summonin could help, or maybe you could just teleport around the place until the gate is free. "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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J. Registered user You'll never get rid of me Last page view: 5875 days, 33 minutes and 41 seconds ago. |
You've all seen this before, right? http://adom.brinkster.net/hof/flg_disp.asp?display=trinity.txt If you're feeling happy, don't worry, it'll go away. Originally posted by noob: "I'm everytime amazed how you people know to exploit every single little bug (or not-bug) for elaborated scumming tatics even if the feature seems completely useless or bad." [Edited 1 time, last edit on 10/14/2004 at 10:01 (GMT -5) by J.] |
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