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Blacklion Registered user Jellies... BAH! Last page view: 5216 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
Is asking for help. The thing is, I've been playing for some two years, sometimes more, sometimes less or not at all. Now, I've never got into late-game part, and it seems that I'm stuck on the same things on the game, I never get progress. I've been reading guidebook quite much, and naturally made some progress, but still, somehow I don't catch the 'red line' of it. In other words, I kinda need personalized help in making some progress. And whoopee, I figured that maybe someone here might want to help. So, at the moment I am playing trollish (came by random) elementalist. He is now lvl 10, and I'm quite satisfied with him, he has 36/ 23 Dv/Pv when tactic is set to normal. Attack bonus is +19, 2d4+16 . I have plenty of daggers, but I use eternium-one atm. Stats are , well, like trolls tend to have, very unbalanced. Need to train with Garth and herbs. I have completed puppy quest, black druid quest, Slain Hotzenplotz, completed Thrundarr's first quest.. Planning to complete the animated tree-quest next, but not sure about it.. So, my goal is just to get to the next point from this. I want to just get to the beginning of late-game. So tell me what would be best thing to do next, and actually I'd like to hear how you play the beginning and mid-game. Somehow, I get a feeling that it's very hard to complete few places, like the Pyramid, because there's the level restriction. I have slain and looted Rehetep and his stuff, but only once with invisible hurthling archer ( with throwing rocks to him as long as possible and then scorching with fire). Okay, this turned out quite long and not-easy-to-read, so if you want more specific info or something, just ask. I'll be glad if someone can be arsed to answer :D |
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Echo Registered user Last page view: 3788 days, 5 hours, 44 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
Ensinnäkin troll on huono race ja elementalist on vaikea class. Ja koska elementalistit saavat lisää taikoja ja niiden käyttökertoja joka levelillä, nopea tasojen saanti on tärkeää. Siksi troll on tähän sitäkin huonompi valinta. :P Kirjoituksestasi jäi todellakin aika epämääräinen kuva.. Voisitko hieman tarkentaa, mitä haluat tietää ja missä haluat apua? Kuitenkin, jos mielit voittaa pelin, lue kaikki mahdolliset spoilerit, kysy täältä neuvoa jos epäröit jostain, ja älä luovuta. ;) |
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Blacklion Registered user Jellies... BAH! Last page view: 5216 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
Sorry, it'll be a bit easier to communicate in finnish with Echo, so.. ;) Kuten sanoin, peikko tuli randomilla, iski suuri tylsyys. Ja tiedän myös, että elementalisti on huono vaihtoehto, varsinkin peikon kanssa, muuta kuitenkin, pelataan nyt sillä kun kuitenkin jossain määrin lupaavalta vaikuttaa. Sanotaan näin: Mitä tekisit seuraavaksi? En osaa päättää, jäänkö keräämään jonnekkin leveleitä vai menenkö eteenpäin, jotta saan kerättyä mahdollisimman paljon kaikkea tavaraa, josta on hyötyä esimerkiksi pyramidissa. Vai kannattaako koko paikkaan edes vaivautua menemään? Se on vain niin houkuttava paikka... :D ---------------------------- Btw, I like to play with dwarves, especially beastifighters. They tend to survive longest in my hands :P Do you think it's a good idea to go quickly to CoC and complete Thrundarr's first quest to get the potion of literacy? I've been doing so couple of times, and this way the beastfighter gains literacy, and is quite tough fighter, too... |
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Echo Registered user Last page view: 3788 days, 5 hours, 44 minutes and 49 seconds ago. |
Pyramid kannattaa käydä tyhjentämässä, sillä ankh on erittäin kätevä amuletti ja ancient mummy wrapping antaa hyvän suojan lisäksi death ray resistanssin. Ja se on välttämättömyys esim. mana temppelissä. Tiedät varmaan tämän mutta elementalistin tulisi käyttää loitsuja mahdollisimman vähän ja käyttää meleetä ja missile aseita mahdollisimman paljon. Jos sinusta tuntuu, että hahmosi on liian heikko ja/tai se tarvitsee parempia tavaroita, reissu infinite dungeoniin tekee ihmeitä. ;) Dwarven beastfighter on yhdistelmä jonka olen itsekin huomannut erittäin hyväksi pelattavaksi. Mutta voisimpa jopa suositella sinulle human barbaaria. Niillä on aloituksessa erittäin hyödyllinen amulet of luck ja mehukas kahdenkäden miekka. Tässä juuri eilen voitinkin ADOMin toisen kerran kyseisellä race/class yhdistelmällä! ;) Edit: Niin, kysyit mitä sinun tulisi tehdä tässä vaiheessa. No mitä sinulla on vielä tekemättä? Ennen kuin ryntäät ToEFiin sinun tulisi ainakin olla käynyt seuraavissa paikoissa: -Pyramid -Dwarven graveyard -TotHK -Darkforge -Dwarftown -(Water temple) Kun nuo paikat olet kolunnut, pitäisi alkaa jo harkita ToEFin valtaamista. Edelleen jos epäröit hahmostasi reissu ID:hen on enemmän kuin suositeltavaa! [Edited 1 time, last edit on 10/15/2005 at 14:49 (GMT -5) by Echo] |
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Mewto Registered user Last page view: 3810 days, 8 hours, 8 minutes and 33 seconds ago. |
Echo, since he's troll is such a low level, it might be a good idea to train in the ID or UD before he takes on the pyramid.. For the Horde! |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 4109 days, 4 hours, 2 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
not actually a spoiler but the post will be in finnish so... (it does contain some spoilers though) Spoiler Ku teet sitä animated forest questiä, nii hommaa kaks kilpee, ja invisibility, käytä coward tacticsia ja koita mennä nii nnopeesti ku mahollista. Pyramidi ei oikeestaan oo kovinkaan vaikee jos on detect traps (ja disarm traps), sillä se reitti on aina sama, ja se Rehetep kuolee helposti. Varsinki jos oot spellcasteri, nii käytä siellä ylimmäsä kerroksesa kahta kilpee ja coward tacticsia. Ja tapa vaan rehetep jos mahollista, ja ota sen tavarat ja lähe sieltä, sillä se pyramidi ei mee kiinni jos Rehetep on kuollu, siis voit myöhemmin käydä tyhjentään sen jos siltä tuntuu. Ja dwarven graveyardilla on hyvä olla invisibility, sillä ne pintakerroksen viholliset ei nää sua, ja niistä ei tartte välittää kuhan et vahingoissa törmää niihin. Ennenku meet rappuja alas Darkforgeen kannattaa yrittää tapaa se steel golemi joka seisoo niillä rapuilla, ja jos se tuntuu hankalalta, niin kannattaa oottaa vähä myöhempään ennenku menee sinne. TotHK ei oikeestaan oo vaikee paikka jos on wand of ice tai jäätaikoja tai bridgebuilding ja paljo logeja. Mutta ne luolat saattaa olla vähä hankalia ku ne on cavernous (siis ne on vaan isoja huoneita, ei paljo käytäviä). Se ite skeletal king ei oo kovinkaan vaikee, mutta ei kannata yrittää meleellä, ku sillä on confuse. I hope that was useful information "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Battle bunny Registered user I'm just that cool Last page view: 6038 days, 2 hours, 3 minutes and 45 seconds ago. |
This is ENGLISH forum. Sheesh. Others may learn from it if you would actually use the one good forum-useful language. (\_/) (o.0) (> <) ( / \ ) Don't click this http://www.mindistortion.net/iwantyoursoul/?i_am=Darkcutter |
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 Kirbot Registered user BattleHax0r of Devastation Last page view: 6095 days, 13 hours, 58 minutes and 5 seconds ago. |
Ahhh... ¿no hablo español? :P Molach: "I like to have 200+ hp and over 5 good healin potions when I do [the fire] temple. AND some way of killing the Wyrm" Morio: "Some way of killing the worm is recommended, yes :D" |
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Silfir Registered user Writer of Overly Long Guides Last page view: 4279 days, 6 hours, 28 minutes and 16 seconds ago. |
Es wäre auch nicht schlecht, sich hier mal auf Deutsch unterhalten zu können... You drop the golden ball. You kick the golden ball. It slides to the west. Suddenly Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, appears! "That's not how you play Quidditch! are you even listening?" Which direction? (123456789) 4 Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is hit by a bolt of acid! Harry Potter, the apprentice wizard, is annihilated. You hear the ecstatic cries of a large crowd! |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 4109 days, 4 hours, 2 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
ok, what I wrote was pretty much like this: Spoiler when doing the animated forest quest, use 2 shields, coward tactics and invisibility detect traps is useful in the pyramid, kill Rehetep with fire, 2 shields + coward if wizard etc. stays open if Rehetep is dead at the dwarven graveyard use invisibility, since the top level monsters don't see invisible before going down the stairs to Darkforge, try killing the Steel golem. TotHK might be hard because the cavernous levels and the skeletal king uses confusion Sorry for writing in finnish, but this guy seemed to understand finnish a lot better than english. I won't do it again and I hope you can forgive me ^^ "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Blacklion, lazy Unregistered user |
Nah, I understand english almost as good as finnish, so there's no problem... Thanks for the tips, Usually I haven't survived to pyramid with spellcasters. But once I get home, It'll be time to test. I have save-scummed with a gnome barbarian, cleared all those places and steel golems were easy in HtH, but anyways, savescumming was boring so I erased the files :D |
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dosquarts Registered user Cooked lizard Last page view: 6515 days, 4 hours, 41 minutes and 52 seconds ago. |
Well done. |
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Blacklion Registered user Jellies... BAH! Last page view: 5216 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
One thing that I haven't figured out yet is (*shamy*) how to bless items. I have read guidebook, but either I have problems in reading or it isn't said very clearly there. |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 4109 days, 4 hours, 2 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
You can bless items by dipping them into Holy water Spoiler you can get holy water by dropping water of any status on an altar of your alignment if you are close enough to your deity (-deity- seems to be very pleased with you) You can also mass bless items with certain scrolls, but I won't spoil you with that ^^ "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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*Chaos Muffin* Registered user Chaotic Awesome Last page view: 6335 days, 10 hours, 24 minutes and 28 seconds ago. |
The fireball wand you get from thundarr is perfect for killing Rhetep, and the ancient munny wrappings are good to wear when vs Nonnak> If you have scrolls of magic map and/or invisibilty or teleport, you can go thru the dwarven halls instead of the ani-forest. Also, maybe consider using different weapons than daggers, unless you find an artifact dagger, or a dagger of mayhem/destruction/death> bloody daggers are good as well, theyre orcish ones, but do better damage and improved criticals. Spoiler
another good way to get exp, is to reduce your characters speed, as exp from monsters is somehow related to your speed> items such as clothes/armour of sloth, boots of the slow shuffle, and being burdened and bloated reduce speed, so when you fight a big monster get it to critically damaged, reduce speed and then finish it off> you can easily get at least an extra 50% exp *<< Words go here >>* |
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Thoth Registered user The Scribe Last page view: 6403 days, 23 hours, 42 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Morio said: "You can also mass bless items with certain scrolls, but I won't spoil you with that ^^" What? I didn't know that... spoiler me how. :) I am aware that you can mass uncurse items with certain scrolls... this other idea is new to me. --<>||<>-- [Edited 1 time, last edit on 10/30/2005 at 11:15 (GMT -5) by Thoth] |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 4109 days, 4 hours, 2 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
Ok, I'll tell you Spoiler you can bless a heap of items by repairing them with a blessed scroll of repair, but first the whole heap must be broken, and that can be done by reading a cursed scroll of repair, this is a great way to get those cooked lizards blessed Damn, you broke me down... "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein [Edited 1 time, last edit on 10/30/2005 at 11:23 (GMT -5) by Morio] |
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Thoth Registered user The Scribe Last page view: 6403 days, 23 hours, 42 minutes and 15 seconds ago. |
Ah... by mass I thought you meant every item in your inventory. Neat trick though. --<>||<>-- |
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tongHoAnh Registered user adoomed Last page view: 6837 days, 20 hours, 31 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
Does it work with artifacts? My RL dumpyard: http://www.geocities.com/ceruleannebula/index.html |
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Blacklion, lazy Unregistered user |
I have a certain problem. When I try to read a spellbook, it gets interrupted because of Teleportitis. I have teleport control as intrincic though, but still it interrupts the spellbook-reading. Is there some areas where teleportitis doesn't work? Or what way I should deal with this? |
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*Chaos Muffin* Registered user Chaotic Awesome Last page view: 6335 days, 10 hours, 24 minutes and 28 seconds ago. |
you can keep trying hoping for the best, or: Spoiler Teleportis doesnt kick in when your in the chaos temples, or the cat lord stage> but they are also quite corrupty places. I reckon cursed helmets of teleportation should 'ground'you, but they don't :( *<< Words go here >>* [Edited 1 time, last edit on 11/1/2005 at 05:23 (GMT -5) by *Chaos Muffin*] |
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Blacklion, lazy Unregistered user |
One way that seemed to solve this was to read the spellbook while I was under attack, strange... Maybe it is true: Teleportitis doesn't work when you're surrounded by enemies :P |
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The Real J. Registered user The faceless swordsman Last page view: 5824 days, 12 hours, 42 minutes and 42 seconds ago. |
Chaos muffin: There is one more no-teleport place: Spoiler
Tomb of the high king is also no-teleport and according to The Guidebook it only has a corruption factor of 1 (2 after day 90). Also, AFAIK no monsters spawn there. Sytytä toiselle tuli ja hän pysyy lämpimänä jonkin aikaa. Sytytä hänet palamaan ja hän pysyy lämpimänä loppuelämänsä. |
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Gozer Unregistered user |
I can also think of at least one other no-teleport place that, if I remember correctly, if non-corrupting ;) |
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Morio Registered user Holy Champion of ADoM Last page view: 4109 days, 4 hours, 2 minutes and 6 seconds ago. |
Spoiler
the bottom level of the assasins guild is also a no-teleport area, but it's slightly corrupting "I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but I know World War 4 with be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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Silfir Unregistered user |
How high is corruption in the BUGCAV? I remember how a teleportation spell failed in there... ;_; Of course, this would require you to clear it out first ;) |
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Blacklion Registered user Jellies... BAH! Last page view: 5216 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
That character I mentioned about (troll elementalist) has been dead for long, but i just couldn't be arsed to tell :P Anyways, I went to pyramid with my drakish ( i know, she will catch problems in certain areas) ranger, went next to Rehetep, cast fireball, and the pussy died like lil child.. I never knew he was that easy to beat :D Next, I think that I will wonder around for a little while, then complete dwarven graveyard. I Have no plans for the move after that. |
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Iridia Moderator on this forum YASD Last page view: 3966 days, 14 hours, 30 minutes and 16 seconds ago. |
Oh, yes, Rehetep falls very nicely to Fireball. Your Troll wouldn't have had a problem. Die Gedanken sind Frei |
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Nchurmdaz Registered user Goblin flash mobber Last page view: 6198 days, 20 hours, 23 minutes and 55 seconds ago. |
Blacklion, Aftre you complete dwarven graveyard, you'd better go talk to the one who gave you the quest...He might do something for your further advancement. Ubi patria ibi bene! |
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Blacklion Registered user Jellies... BAH! Last page view: 5216 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes and 12 seconds ago. |
Ah shit, I just wrote quite long post and accidentally opened&closed another page... Yeehaw... Anyways, to put it shortly, I am currently playing with drakish ranger, lvl 19, that got crowned (got Nature's Friend), lvl 12 on swords, lvl 6 on crossbows and several levels on other missile weapons. I have completed Thrundarr's quests, cleared the Pyramid, got Ring of High Kings... Ask if you want more specific information. How hard the rift is? I haven't cleared darkforge or Tower of Eternal Flames yet. |
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